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[THEAP99]

I wouldn't think they would have a plan to lose .

I was thinking though, Sony will have their work cut out for them if Series X and PS5 are the same price. It should be cheaper.

 

[Lukin1978]

Well I thought he'd say we have no plan or idea what we are doing.

 

[kyoji]

So let me get this straight, hardware sales dont matter, but they are now concerned with 'winning' next generation? interesting......

 

[kretos]

Yea I know Sony’s plan. Not to sure I’m a fan.

Sony's worst gen (PS3) still outsold MS best gen (XB360), all i'm saying

 

[TheGreatYosh]

By 2 Million consoles. That’s pretty fucking close.

The PS3 came out a year later, and was 200 dollars more expensive. It also had worse multiplat support and performance at the beginning.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

By 2 Million consoles. That’s pretty fucking close.

Didn’t you hear? 360 only sold to about 10 million people, they just each bought eight consoles because of RRoD or some utter bullshit I read here earlier today

 

[Alphagear]

PS5 can’t play Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey or Panzer Dragoon Orta at launch.

Well played, Microsoft!

Most of the Time

Says alot about the state of Xbox and its fans. . Looking forward to play Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Panzer Dragoon Orta on their Next gen 12TF console. Probably cause they have nothing to play from this gen and wont have anything in the next.

 

[Barakov]

I see. So their "plan" to "win" next gen is "MONEY". Their brute force strategy is fine as long as they don't release another Brute Force.

 

[LittleBusters]

Didn’t you hear? 360 only sold to about 10 million people, they just each bought eight consoles because of RRoD or some utter bullshit I read here earlier today

Even if Microsoft had to replace a console sold 3x due to RROD, that doesn't count a 4 units sold. That's not how it works.

 

[LittleBusters]

I see. So their "plan" to "win" next gen is "MONEY". Their brute force strategy is fine as long as they don't release another Brute Force.

Microsoft is going GOKU this coming generation. Pure brute power.

 

[ClearMind]

The PS3 came out a year later, and was 200 dollars more expensive. It also had worse multiplat support and performance at the beginning.

And incredible negative publicity from gamers and journalists for at least 2 years. Journalists especially sucked that microdick hard last gen. Ign for example gave PS3 games lower ratings because they run worse. Ask yourself if they would ever do the same for the xbone or switch.

The PS5 is gonna smoke the Series X no matter if its the same price, $50 cheaper or more expensive.
Microsoft flooded the market with cheap ass xbones this gen. I remember you could get the og xbone for like $129 two years into this gen.

 

[Dr Bass]

I feel like this is all getting a bit absurd. The "plan to win" really needs to just be have the best software available. That's it. That's why Switch and PS4 outsell the Xbox. They have software people want to play more than what is offered on the Xbox. They need to turn this around. Absolutely nobody is going to care about spec wars even 1-2 years into this.

 

[drganon]

As opposed to what, a plan to lose?

 

[Max_Po]

Xbox Series X ...will play ps5 games ... zing

 

[ClearMind]

As opposed to what, a plan to lose?

Is that not what gamepass is supposed to do?
They are expecting to lose (rightfully so) and they had change their goals?

 

[Elenchus]

Sony's worst gen (PS3) still outsold MS best gen (XB360), all i'm saying

I’m sure that point (true or not) is somehow relevant to my post. Just not quite sure how just yet.

Lemme ponder that one for a spell.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I can’t argue with the software deficit. MS needs to keep planting seeds that hopefully bloom into killer apps eventually

it won’t be fixed overnight , gonna take time

As opposed to what, a plan to lose?

That’s how I do things in my personal life. Never fails. Or I guess it always fails, which is the pokt

 

[Gavon West]

Whooo, damn! Lotta salt up in here! LOTTA salt! So much salt up in here, make the Pacific Ocean jealous.

I'm THRISTY AF! Yikes!

 

[johnjohn]

I hope Microsoft plans on undercutting Sony in price. That would force Sony to release the PS5 as cheap as possible. I'm great with that.


Neither could the PS3. It still outsold the 360.

Actually, according to Zhuge who is incredibly reliable, the 360 outsold the PS3.

 

[Shmunter]

Chill says a lot of things without saying anything at all.

 

[CitizenX3639]

Just saw a stat from after march PS4 has sold 110 million units to MS 45 million. They cant win but become at least relevant would be nice change.

 

[Gavon West]

So let me get this straight, hardware sales dont matter, but they are now concerned with 'winning' next generation? interesting......

He didnt say hardware, did he?

Next gen is about Sooooooo much more than just powerful hardware sold - even thought Series X takes the crown in that department.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

 

[The Alien]

I dunno. They can have a successful plan and "win". But I dont necessarily think "win" means selling more consoles than Sony - cuz I dont think that'll happen.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

They will try but the PS brand is too strong

I don't know dude. They have a better product - if they match on price, it'll be sony exclusives vs everything else.

And we all know how the ps3 did vs the 360.

 

[Gavon West]

I feel like this is all getting a bit absurd. The "plan to win" really needs to just be have the best software available. That's it. That's why Switch and PS4 outsell the Xbox. They have software people want to play more than what is offered on the Xbox. They need to turn this around. Absolutely nobody is going to care about spec wars even 1-2 years into this.

Ps4 and Switch beat out Xbox because the Xbox division wasnt taking gaming seriously and hardly invested in the brand. There was also poor messaging behind the product. This coming generation, Xbox has as much if not more support than Sony and Nintendo. They've already turned things around. They're just continuing to do so at an alarming rate at this point.

It amazes me how many people still can't get their heads around whats happened and whats happening since Phil got promoted and Microsoft has gone ham and now invested 100% in the Xbox brand as a whole. They purchase an ass load of of studios and talent. They releases Game Pass, they already have the most powerful box with Series X for next gen. Even the tent pole franchises are getting upgrades and time out the wazoo! And people still think Sony's gonna just run way with next gen like they did this gen. Not a chance.

Sony should be preparing for a serious battle next gen.

 

[thismeinteil]

Yeah, can someone please put a Microsoft Logo on Mike Tyson's and a Sony Logo on that guy on the ground and then please post it in the XBox Power King Memes Thread? Thanks!

Here you go. Just as you requested.

 

[Windows-PC]

Ps4 and Switch beat out Xbox because the Xbox division wasnt taking gaming seriously and hardly invested in the brand. There was also poor messaging behind the product. This coming generation, Xbox has as much if not more support than Sony and Nintendo. They've already turned things around. They're just continuing to do so at an alarming rate at this point.

It amazes me how many people still can't get their heads around whats happened and whats happening since Phil got promoted and Microsoft has gone ham and now invested 100% in the Xbox brand as a whole. They purchase an ass load of of studios and talent. They releases Game Pass, they already have the most powerful box with Series X for next gen. Even the tent pole franchises are getting upgrades and time out the wazoo! And people still think Sony's gonna just run way with next gen like they did this gen. Not a chance.

Sony should be preparing for a serious battle next gen.

Yeah, this time Microsoft is ready to fight

The biggest mistake is to underestimate your competition!

 

[Windows-PC]

Here you go. Just as you requested.

Haha

 

[Hobbygaming]

I don't know dude. They have a better product - if they match on price, it'll be sony exclusives vs everything else.

And we all know how the ps3 did vs the 360.

Is it really a better video game console though if it doesn't have the best games

And last generation was way different circumstances. PS3 launched 1 year later, had a $600 price tag and had the cell processor which was too difficult for developers to code for. With all of that, PS3 still caught up to Xbox 360's sales figures

 

[Hobbygaming]

Here you go. Just as you requested.

 

[thismeinteil]

Lmao. Thanks.

 

[Windows-PC]

Lmao. Thanks.

Can also please make a version where XBox is on Mike Tyson and Sony on the Ground and then post it in the XBox Power King Memes ? You would earn alot of fame there Thanks

 

[Batiman]

Judging from the specs, I thought the XSX would cost at least 100$ more. This is making me think they will not price it any higher than the ps5 and are willing to take a big loss of they have to. Good news for everyone

 

[thismeinteil]

Can also please make a version where XBox is on Mike Tyson and Sony on the Ground and then post it in the XBox Power King Memes ? You would earn alot of fame there Thanks

I would, but even attempting to make something with the XSX winning would make me cry harder than the lady in Hobbygaming's gif.

 

[Vawn]

I hope the plan consists of big, high-quality exclusive games. Nothing else really matters if you can't get that right.

 

[pr0cs]

They've done everything right thus far, clearly they understand their message unlike Sony.
It all comes down to games now.
Not like I won't buy both of them but probably not at launch. Unless.... There is compelling software I NEED to play on day one

 

[thismeinteil]

Judging from the specs, I thought the XSX would cost at least 100$ more. This is making me think they will not price it any higher than the ps5 and are willing to take a big loss of they have to. Good news for everyone

Considering MS is going to be rolling out a monthly payment plan for the XBX, I doubt it will be $399. I'm expecting $499, with PS4 at $399, taking a $50-$75 hit.

 

[Batiman]

Considering MS is going to be rolling out a monthly payment plan for the XBX, I doubt it will be $399. I'm expecting $499, with PS4 at $399, taking a $50-$75 hit.

Haven’t they always had a payment plan? I thought they did.

 

[thismeinteil]

Haven’t they always had a payment plan? I thought they did.

I'm pretty sure they did this gen. Of course, both of those consoles launched at $499, as well.

 

[LittleBusters]

What software deficit on XBox? What specific games on Playstation that are so amazingballs?

 

[Gavon West]

What software deficit on XBox? What specific games on Playstation that are so amazingballs?

The ony kind they know how to do! Lol

 

[FeiRR]

He speaks like a politician: a lot of words without any meaning.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Sounds like $399 x. Could it be?

Do it MS!

 

[Urprobablyright]

The two companies are doing it different ways. Xbox is being bullish and talk'y, PlayStation seems to be letting everyone else do the hype'ing for them, i guess they expect their next big reveal to crack it all wide open...

Look, all I'm saying is that going back through popular culture, everyone prefers Marty McFly to Biff. Pop culture speaking, the "good guys" would be the ones who try to use brains over brawn. So... PS5 seems to be the light side at the moment~

don't flame me I'm just having fun

 

[Kumomeme]

proclaim to win could have backfired you know

 

[Neolombax]

Well...that's quite obvious? Anyone running a business with no "plan" to win seems kinda idiotic.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Unless that plan is a free blowjob per month to every XSX owner I don't see how they can win EU/Asia, their games output is still behind Sony and it will take them several years just to catch up (unless Sony 1st party studios start screwing up).

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Would be great to see xbox winning a generation. I have faith in Phil.

They would have to carve out a strong sense of identity with their exclusives to do so. Something that will allow fanboys to stand by them.

Gears tactics and gears 5 seems to be a great start.

 

[darkinstinct]

Sounds like $399 x. Could it be?

Absolutely. You don't win with a 499 console against a 399 console in units sold. It just doesn't happen. Since they can't just hope for Sony to target 499, they had to design a 399 console to stay active and not reactive. They didn't even know back in 2016 what performance Sony would target. 399 was the obvious choice. And even the Xbox One was a 399 console with a $100 camera. The only 499 console MS has ever done was the One X, but that was not a console targeted at casuals.