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100 Million PS4 sold but don't read too much into it

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Hang on. The Xbox One was infamous for resorting to 900p in most games where the the PS4 managed native 1080. PS4 was the performance leader until Xbox One X came along, very late in the game.



Or maybe you’re just not terribly objective on this point.
Ha ha...got you....

Thing is, it was obvious sarcasm....All the things I mentioned in that post, people said would save XBOX.....A long list over 6 years of nothing.....

Most balanced console would save XBOX
TV TV TV and Kinect would save XBOX
Power of Da cloud would save XBOX
Crossplay Pitchforking would save XBOX
Censorship Pitchforking would save XBOX
Most Powerful and the TRUE 4K console would save XBOX
Vapor chamber and UHD Bluray would save XBOX
EA Access would save XBOX
Gamepass would save XBOX
SONY NOT being at E3 would save XBOX

On the power thing, it's ironic isn't it......For 4 years PS4 destroyed XBONES in resolution framerate and better graphical settings, lot of times all at once...….XBONEX can't dream of showing the divide that PS4 showed over XBONES, but people pretend that XBONEX which debuted in late 2017, where most times PRO runs better in multiplats is the reason they upgraded.....They hate exclusives and only play the best versions of multiplats, so they chose X, but were the same persons who said resolution+ certifiably higher framerates+ better settings didn't matter for 4 years...To DF and these guys, it was negligible at best....


Well here are the results, 100 million........Has MS changed? NO...They're still about listing trvial things that don't matter and focusing less on producing quality games..So for next gen, they're already like this....


Poaching Staff from Sony and other high end studios will save XBOX
Purchasing a load of C tier Studios will save XBOX
MS is preparing for Next gen and are serious, Sony is doing nothing and sitting high on their perch and are complacent will save XBOX

This is the same MS moving into next gen......I predict a bigger lead for PS5 over XB3......if Nintendo makes a decent console in terms of hardware next gen, it will easily be the second console to get after PS5....
 

it_wasn't_me

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Ha ha...got you....

Thing is, it was obvious sarcasm....All the things I mentioned in that post, people said would save XBOX.....A long list over 6 years of nothing.....

Most balanced console would save XBOX
TV TV TV and Kinect would save XBOX
Power of Da cloud would save XBOX
Crossplay Pitchforking would save XBOX
Censorship Pitchforking would save XBOX
Most Powerful and the TRUE 4K console would save XBOX
Vapor chamber and UHD Bluray would save XBOX
EA Access would save XBOX
Gamepass would save XBOX
SONY NOT being at E3 would save XBOX

On the power thing, it's ironic isn't it......For 4 years PS4 destroyed XBONES in resolution framerate and better graphical settings, lot of times all at once...….XBONEX can't dream of showing the divide that PS4 showed over XBONES, but people pretend that XBONEX which debuted in late 2017, where most times PRO runs better in multiplats is the reason they upgraded.....They hate exclusives and only play the best versions of multiplats, so they chose X, but were the same persons who said resolution+ certifiably higher framerates+ better settings didn't matter for 4 years...To DF and these guys, it was negligible at best....


Well here are the results, 100 million........Has MS changed? NO...They're still about listing trvial things that don't matter and focusing less on producing quality games..So for next gen, they're already like this....


Poaching Staff from Sony and other high end studios will save XBOX
Purchasing a load of C tier Studios will save XBOX
MS is preparing for Next gen and are serious, Sony is doing nothing and sitting high on their perch and are complacent will save XBOX

This is the same MS moving into next gen......I predict a bigger lead for PS5 over XB3......if Nintendo makes a decent console in terms of hardware next gen, it will easily be the second console to get after PS5....

You forgot to mention China.
 

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I felt like the shift actually occurred long ago, as far back as 2007, or the beginning of the shift. As Wii dominated with a casual (two Gamecubes duct taped together console), while MS/Sony pour billions into the more hardcore experience. This lead to some very bad decision, in my opinion. I felt like Sony double down on the core and hardcore players and games, and Microsoft went the other way.

Early days of Xbox were great, imo, 2001-2008... after 2009 slow steady decline although sales peaked a few years later.


The seed of Xbox's failure was sown when they chose to name the second Xbox console the "Xbox 360" to compete against the PS3. They didn't want to name their second console Xbox 2 because it would possibly seem inferior to the PS3. This immediately set them up on the precedent of being reactionary and basing their strategy upon a competitor instead of trying to lead or being unique.

Sony going after hardcore? MS goes after hardcore. Sony looks like it's going casual? MS goes casual. In the end though, it always seems to turn out that Sony were just leading MS astray. Following and copying is core to MS's DNA. That is until Satya Nadella took the reigns... they appear to be on a better path now.
 
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But how much is each player worth in game sales and subscriptions?

Not a fanboy post, but just wondering. If you sell more games and subs then you will be taking in for more profit than simply having revenue.
 

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That is until Satya Nadella took the reigns... they appear to be on a better path now.

I'm not convinced, but I think we'll see how it will go for 3-4 years. I think what Satya and even Ballmer are doing since 2010 makes sense in business/enterprise side of things to a degree, not so much on the consumer side of the house. They're on a different path now, not sure if its better but what is/was the alternative (not really a question though). Its either cloud services or bust at this point.

But how much is each player worth in game sales and subscriptions?

Not a fanboy post, but just wondering. If you sell more games and subs then you will be taking in for more profit than simply having revenue.

About 10 games per PS4 and 36m+ PS Plus subscribers, plus 700k PS Now subscribers, as of last quarter. (Sony doesn't break down individual component profit, although revenue could be somewhat guessimated) Sony does give profit statements as far as gaming but not individual components. Logically, profits will be down for a few quarters as they ramp up for PS5, and slow down for PS4.

 
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I see the narrative of, expect Sony's hardware numbers to be down significantly like Microsoft was, because of announcing a new hardware has died down for now. Looking forward to some western media hack with the title: "Is Sony selling 100 million consoles bad for the industry?" You know Forbes or a Eurogamer contributor is chomping at the bits to drop such a column.
 

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The whole "shipped not sold through" is some 7th gen fanboy sophistry and has never been valid. Console manufacturers always only report sold to retailer because once it's shipped they get paid. It's literally impossible for them to actually know how many consoles have been sold to customers.
It was always valid. You need to take in consideration discounts, which are paid by the manufacturers.
 

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Wind back to 2013, where the fanboys were calling out Sony, saying their next console would be shit due to sony being in financial dire straights.

Sony built the PS4 on a shoe string, coming off of a disaster with the ps3, a new guy in charge, a move to the US and still, against all odds and aI competitor with deeper pockets and more goodwill, designed the fastest selling console of all time.

Keep your corporate shilling at the door and take a moment to reflect on what an achievement it is/was.

Sony was on death ground and came out fighting. Hopefully Microsoft will do the same next gen.

Man....you must read this thread 7 years ago. It's a gold mine :

 

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Every gamer should be happy about how much PlayStation dominated this generation, because it shows these companies only one thing really matters - which platform has the best games.

As long as all three platforms go into next generation with that mindset we should be in for another great decade of console gaming.
Aside of Sony exclusives there's nothing to play on PS4 though. Pretty much everything else is on PC with better quality, cheaper price and free online.
 
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Of course you would say that, because you came from mental looney forum like misterxmedia. Not a single mental institution in this whole universe can't beat misterxmedia looney forum. LOL
Came from? No. I've been a member of forums before and after that mistake.

You would fit them very well.
 
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Aside of Sony exclusives there's nothing to play on PS4 though. Pretty much everything else is on PC with better quality, cheaper price and free online.

That’s true of every console for PC gamers. Well, not Xbox since their exclusives are all on PC now, older games aside. If you’re a PC gamer exclusives and wanting to play online games with console-only friends are really the only reason to buy a console. Sony and Nintendo exclusives are the bulk of my favorite games each generation so I always buy them even with having a gaming PC.
 

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The forecast is for PS4 to hit 111 million by financial year end which is around march 2020. I assume we will see price cuts eventually and total sales will easily pass 120 after PS5 launches.
It's great to see these numbers, we need console gaming to be strong.
 

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Well, that's a new one. 🤣
It's true. I can think of Persona 5 and that's it.

That’s true of every console for PC gamers. Well, not Xbox since their exclusives are all on PC now, older games aside. If you’re a PC gamer exclusives and wanting to play online games with console-only friends are really the only reason to buy a console. Sony and Nintendo exclusives are the bulk of my favorite games each generation so I always buy them even with having a gaming PC.
The PS2 and PS3 had a lot of non-Sony exclusives. But after the PS4 the PlayStation brand is losing the appeal for me. Few exclusives, paid online, no backwards compatibility, censorship everywhere, half-assed crossplay...
 

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Man....you must read this thread 7 years ago. It's a gold mine :

Quite a few gems in there.....


pharmboy044


What is the reason why someone would pick each console in the next gen?

WiiU - Nintendo exclusives?

720 - Xbox LIVE?

PS4 - ?




proelite


Microsoft:
Releases a Windows 8 extremely powerful media box that can replace both your console and your PC for $399-$499. Walled garden. Metro app store. Multiple subscriptions packages for TV, XBL, Office 365 etc. Kinect 2 packed in. Supports mouse and keyboard.

Tens of millions of people buy it thinking that it's a cheap but extremely powerful PC.
Easily market leader, but not the biggest gaming software mover. Only the biggest third parties and the ocassional app store developer make good money.

~75 million install base.

PS4:
Traditional console that makes Sony and third parties decent money. Won't save Sony but won't kill them either. Hardcore console gamers migrate to this platform from Xbox 360 due to free PSN.

~ 50 million install base.

Wii-U:
Gamecube 2. Won't kill Nintendo.

~25 million install base.



jeremy1456

I think it will be as follows:

1. Nintendo

Nintendo has the most popular franchises. Worst case scenario they are a close second worldwide.

2. Microsoft

The only one left with any momentum a the end of this gen. Unfortunately I see kinect being a focus, and I think like the Wii it will lose steam. They can still sell their exclusives and even third party games much better than Sony.

3. Sony

I think this will be the very last Playstation branded device. They don't have the power hitting franchises the others do, and I think exclusives will be the only thing success is based on.

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Some guy said that "The Last Guardian" would be Sony's last game....Many said Sony would be bowing out of the console race or this would be it's last console......Michael F Assbender looks to have a funny post with pics, but only the XBOX pic depicting Phil Spencer is showing on page 10......A goldmine thread for sure...….There are some current gems on current Gaf too, can't wait for next gen spec reveal, where we can revisit the speculation thread or when we speak of game quality and studio acquisitions next gen...........
 

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Between PS4, Switch, and PC, I'm just glad dedicated gaming hardware and their platforms aren't only doing well, but better than ever. I hope they continue to reach new heights. I did buy 2 PS4s this gen myself, although I haven't bought games on PS4 for months, and with the shit they've been doing and saying lately, and their general direction, I'll most probably not buy a PS5.
 

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Only the fourth home console to reach this milestone.

1. PlayStation 2 - 155 million
2. PlayStation - 102.5 million
3. Nintendo Wii - 101.6 million
4. PlayStation 4 - 100 million (and counting)

PS4 will be #2 on the list very soon, but it won't catch the PS2.

#5 on the list is the "failure" PS3 at 87.4 million.


take away 4 playstation consoles, and sony literally has no console in the top 5.
 

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take away 4 playstation consoles, and sony literally has no console in the top 5.
 

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Thats one too many consoles for me to not read too much into it OP, so yeah, I'm reading.
 

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Better to be naive than follow your footsteps and become a looney.
That ship sailed, son. As evident by your continued obsession on what people did many, many years ago. You're one of those "always an xbot" kids. You wish for others to fail more than being concerned with what you like.
You are a toxic gamer.
 
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And PS3 would have outsold Wii too had it not been for $600 and it never reaching PS2 pricepoints…..
Quite useless speculation, innit? At $600 it was still initially sold at such a loss that it damned near bankrupted the company. There's no way it could have been cheaper.
 
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Pallas

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Except yours don't make sense.

To be fair, his didn’t either, of they were ever going to give us a cheaper launch PS3, it would be a drastically different console, as to whether it would be mind blowing successful like its predecessor and successor is anyone’s guess and all hypothetical what ifs.

Still it’s a great achievement for the PS4, and Sony.
 

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My friend who is a Nintendo fanboy told me that Sony has to sell buildings to stay afloat! And that Stadia will destroy Sony! So yeap! Don't read too much into it! Sony is dying! :messenger_tears_of_joy:
SONY has divested of much of their buildings over the last 10 years to become a leaner and more focused company. This is true.
If Sony has balls it will divide the numbers and tells us tue divided numbers of the pro and the og console

I really don't need to see an escalating war of corporate balls, or if we do there need to be equal vulva time. Its truly a rabbit hole we don't need to encourage.
tl;dr Keep your corporate balls to yourself SONY.

Exception made for these SONY balls.
 
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