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100 Million PS4 sold but don't read too much into it

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.... But they are poised to lose next gen. I read it on some american tech magazines

Anyone who thinks Sony is losing Next-gen has not been paying attention. There is no way Microsoft is going to close the gap on hardware and based on their moves lately they aren't trying to.

Microsoft has to know they cannot compete with Sony or Nintendo in hardware sales. They are much better off trying to innovate through streaming and GamePass.

The only thing Microsoft should focus on hardware wise is to have the most powerful console of the 3. I can care less about how many consoles they sell, I just hope whatever they put on the market matches the standard set with the OneX
 
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When all is said and done, PlayStation 4 will be the all time best selling console.
 

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You are thinking PS5 is coming nov. 2020? It could be possible with a price cut and good bundles.

Yeah I'm thinking the PS5 will release October or November of 2020. So you think an OG PS4 on permanent sale for $199 with one bundled game will do it?
 

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Yeah I'm thinking the PS5 will release October or November of 2020. So you think an OG PS4 on permanent sale for $199 with one bundled game will do it?

Definitely a possibility.

The question is if Sony is interested in making numbers which their actions seem to say a huge no. lol
 
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Does anybody think Sony will be able to sale 120 million PS4s before the PS5 is released?

Should be close depending on when its released, also price cut strategy could help. If its released in May 2020, doubtful without a huge price cut.

114m May
116m Sept
120m Nov
 
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Should be close depending on when its released, also price cut strategy could help. If its released in May 2020, doubtful without a huge price cut.

114m May
116m Sept
120m Nov

That's an interesting break down. Would you happen to know how many PS2s were sold the day the PS3 released? Was it over or under 120 million sold?
 

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That's an interesting break down. Would you happen to know how many PS2s were sold the day the PS3 released? Was it over or under 120 million sold?
I don't really have data on PS2. Here are some figures from wiki, it suggests 30-40m units were sold after the PS3 was released. I think it really depends on how long Sony pushes the PS4 or pushes people to the PS5.
 

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Does anybody think Sony will be able to sale 120 million PS4s before the PS5 is released?
If they have crazy holiday deals that become permanent I'd give it an outside shot. But I wouldn't put too much money on it. I expect they will sell 120 million before production ends, but they only have one more complete holiday season before PS5 launches and with possible tariffs coming into play I just don't see them hitting that price sweet spot where it sells 20 millions in 15 months.
 
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Sorry for Disappointing you im not a xbox Fanboy i play exclusively on the playstation since the First one ;)
Yeah its better when both companies Show their hw sales numbers divided
Youre so childish how old are you maybe a Teenager
And you are not childish to started this with your comment that if Sony had balls??🙄
Look in the mirror and tell me who is childish now?😉
 

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I don't really have data on PS2. Here are some figures from wiki, it suggests 30-40m units were sold after the PS3 was released. I think it really depends on how long Sony pushes the PS4 or pushes people to the PS5.

So Sony sold about 120 million PS2 consoles, before the PS3 was released. That's interesting that the PS4 will be around that amount before the PS5 releases. Plus throw in PSN money and you can safely say this is Sony's best transition between consoles ever in the 25-year history of the Playstation brand.

I hope they use this transition to the max.
 

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So Sony sold about 120 million PS2 consoles, before the PS3 was released. That's interesting that the PS4 will be around that amount before the PS5 releases. Plus throw in PSN money and you can safely say this is Sony's best transition between consoles ever in the 25-year history of the Playstation brand.

I hope they use this transition to the max.
The fact that PS4 tracks so favorably compared to PS2 is even more amazing when considering the competition. PS4 has sold like hot cakes with 2 alternatives on the market from Nintendo, plus the Xbox One which release at the same time and has still done well despite the wide disparity in sales. PS2 had a much easier fight IMO. Dreamcast had potential but crumbled in the face of PS2. And OG Xbox, although my favorite of the generation, was a light weight competition wise. And gamecube was like a little brother trying to play 1 on 1 against his older brother six years older than him.
 

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So Sony sold about 120 million PS2 consoles, before the PS3 was released. That's interesting that the PS4 will be around that amount before the PS5 releases. Plus throw in PSN money and you can safely say this is Sony's best transition between consoles ever in the 25-year history of the Playstation brand.

I hope they use this transition to the max.

PS4 is slightly ahead of PS2 sales based on time on the market, yeah, it depends on how the transition works or how they want it to work... price of the PS5 might have a big impact on PS4 sales for a few years. Maybe use the PS4 Pro as the cheap model? I think its safe to say Playstation as device/gaming component is making more money now than during the PS2 era i.e. digital games and PS Plus come to mind, also, they're barely dropping prices on hardware the last few years.
 
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After the PS5 is released and if sony can manage a 199 PS4. Expect fucking 150 million sold by 2021. (Thing is the memory choice of the PS4 is still hurting sony a lot, only the xbox one S has the cheap memory solution) Which means a 199 PS4 might only exist when they are getting rid of stock.
 
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Does anybody think Sony will be able to sale 120 million PS4s before the PS5 is released?
When all is said and done, PlayStation 4 will be the all time best selling console.



PS4 looks on target to match Nintendo DS/PS2 for sales

Extrapolating it looks like 120m will be reached just over 7 years after launch - so that's beginning 2021.
 

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PS4 looks on target to match Nintendo DS/PS2 for sales

Extrapolating it looks like 120m will be reached just over 7 years after launch - so that's beginning 2021.

Amazing research! So Sony "can" sell 120 million before November 2020 like some here said with a perm $199 price and so crazy bundles next year. Basically a $199 PS4 bundle with The Last of Us 2 the summer of 2020 will be what's needed.
 

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The fact that PS4 tracks so favorably compared to PS2 is even more amazing when considering the competition. PS4 has sold like hot cakes with 2 alternatives on the market from Nintendo, plus the Xbox One which release at the same time and has still done well despite the wide disparity in sales. PS2 had a much easier fight IMO. Dreamcast had potential but crumbled in the face of PS2. And OG Xbox, although my favorite of the generation, was a light weight competition wise. And gamecube was like a little brother trying to play 1 on 1 against his older brother six years older than him.

You mean less competition Nintendo pulled out of the home console market. MS completely failed and Sony did ok but the home console market will have shrunk 100 million this generation. Basically Sony got the vast majority of the HD twins sales of last generation. Good for them but we went from 3 healthy home consoles to 1. The market has shrunk big time and that is not good for anyone.
 

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Amazing research! So Sony "can" sell 120 million before November 2020 like some here said with a perm $199 price and so crazy bundles next year. Basically a $199 PS4 bundle with The Last of Us 2 the summer of 2020 will be what's needed.
If they go that route it becomes doable IMO, more so if they have a $150 black Friday (week) deal. And apologies to one of the greatest games ever, but I would pack something else in over LOU2. Spiderman and a $10 VR bucks code so that they can co-brand the box with Spiderman and Fortnite. Another possibility would be getting Roblox on there and branded on the package. Huge potential there.
 

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Amazing research! So Sony "can" sell 120 million before November 2020 like some here said with a perm $199 price and so crazy bundles next year. Basically a $199 PS4 bundle with The Last of Us 2 the summer of 2020 will be what's needed.

yurinka yurinka posted it .. I think it's their work https://www.neogaf.com/threads/100-...oo-much-into-it.1495159/page-3#post-254987734

$199 bundle seems necessary yep. Maybe a superslim to reach that price point too. 7nm should help but I wonder if it will be worth Sony's while, or will they just stick with the slim
 

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You mean less competition Nintendo pulled out of the home console market. MS completely failed and Sony did ok but the home console market will have shrunk 100 million this generation. Basically Sony got the vast majority of the HD twins sales of last generation. Good for them but we went from 3 healthy home consoles to 1. The market has shrunk big time and that is not good for anyone.
Yeah I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote here. Nintendo is still in the home console market - played their newest console on my TV this past weekend in fact. Yep, it can be played mobile, but it is still very much a home console. Has wireless controllers and everything. Moving onto MS, it is true they did not live up to their potential. But calling them a complete failure is a stretch. Oh and the shrinking market thing - have you been living under a rock? Do you know that people can win like 3 million for a gaming tournament in 2019? Call me crazy, but I would have laughed at the suggestion the market would ever be big enough for that shit in 2002.
 
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At this point, I'm super curious what cashed-up, confident Sony, has in store for us with PS5.

I've said it before, but I just have this feeling that they're prepping something special. Full BC with everything? Including Vita? Monster specs? PSVR2?

Congrats Sony on the 100 million. Well deserved.

Has there been any official statement from Sony about this milestone yet?


I think both.

Spencer even avoided stating that the Scarlett would be the most powerful console. IMO I think it's because the PS5 has to be a monster to power PSVR2.

and i still standby my theory of Cerney leaking Scarlett specs and not PS5 specs.
 
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This might look like good news for Sony and bad new for Microsoft/Nintendo but in all honesty, it's amazing news for all.

Last gen people predicted (like they always do) that this would be the last traditional console generation. Now with stadia and streaming happening, the company with a traditional console is selling gangbusters.

it's a good time for the industry tbh
 
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Yeah I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote here. Nintendo is still in the home console market - played their newest console on my TV this past weekend in fact. Yep, it can be played mobile, but it is still very much a home console. Has wireless controllers and everything. Moving onto MS, it is true they did not live up to their potential. But calling them a complete failure is a stretch. Oh and the shrinking market thing - have you been living under a rock? Do you know that people can win like 3 million for a gaming tournament in 2019? Call me crazy, but I would have laughed at the suggestion the market would ever be big enough for that shit in 2002.
My phone can do that to it is no home console. The switch is a hand held with a TV output. I said home console market not total gaming market. Including PC, tablets, phones sure you have a bigger market. And prize money on a game that is not a console exclusive does not mean much in the home console market discussion.
 
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My phone can do that to it is no home console. The switch is a hand held with a TV output. I said home console market not total gaming market. Including PC, tablets, phones sure you have a bigger market. And prize money on a game that is not a console exclusive does not mean much in the home console market discussion.
Nope, the switch is a home console that can be detached from part of its processing capabilities to play on the go. Prove me wrong.
 

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It's true, China has the potential of being to the console market, what it is to the movie market. So it's a good thing Microsoft is investi... oh wait.

This article is insane when you think about it.

In China, one of the biggest investors in homegrown console games isn’t domestic giants Tencent or NetEase -- it’s Sony. The Japanese titan just announced seven new titles under its China Hero Project, a program that invests in and promotes console games made by Chinese developers. The first of six games announced in the first batch last year has already been shipped. In China, one of the biggest investors in homegrown console games isn’t domestic giants Tencent or NetEase -- it’s Sony.

The Japanese titan just announced seven new titles under its China Hero Project, a program that invests in and promotes console games made by Chinese developers. The first of six games announced in the first batch last year has already been shipped.


 

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This article is insane when you think about it.
it is. You just know at one point China is gonna lift that console ban and Sony's foot isn't even in the door; it's on the coffee table in the living room with it's shoe off in front of the TV on it's third hot chocolate.
 
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it is. You just know at one point China is gonna lift that console ban and Sony's foot isn't even in the door; it's on the coffee table in the living room with it's shoe off in front of the TV on it's third hot chocolate.

No wonder why Sony sells 100+ million consoles each time. They are truly a world-wide brand. Back in the early 2000s I was shocked to see how much Sony cared about getting the Playstation brand popular in Africa and the Middle East. Clearly, they have great foresight.
 
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Nope, the switch is a home console that can be detached from part of its processing capabilities to play on the go. Prove me wrong.
Yeah I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote here. Nintendo is still in the home console market - played their newest console on my TV this past weekend in fact. Yep, it can be played mobile, but it is still very much a home console. Has wireless controllers and everything. Moving onto MS, it is true they did not live up to their potential. But calling them a complete failure is a stretch. Oh and the shrinking market thing - have you been living under a rock? Do you know that people can win like 3 million for a gaming tournament in 2019? Call me crazy, but I would have laughed at the suggestion the market would ever be big enough for that shit in 2002.
You can connect a PS3 controller to the PSPGo, that has a cradle and connects to the TV. Is that a home console?
 

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And you are not childish to started this with your comment that if Sony had balls??🙄
Look in the mirror and tell me who is childish now?😉
;) i only said my opinion that has nothing to do with Sony or MS they must be clear when they announce their sold numbers divided is the best way for clear and Clean numbers ;)
Yeah it was not a Good comment with balls :)