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State of Play - June 02, 2022

yurinka

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Looks like it's been leaked.

In for dat SF6 trailer. Can we get some Thicc Chun, please? 🤤😍

Also no FF XVI is...kinda surprising. Guess that might be Q1 2023 after all.
This list seems credible but it's fake because Capcom said they won't show Street Fighter 6 until summer. And Summer fighting game announcements and showcases are made in EVO. And well, Capcom has Pragmata and Exoprimal coming 2023 plus very likely SF6 will end being a 2023 so I think RE4 remake will be a 2024 game.
 
This list seems credible but it's fake because Capcom said they won't show Street Fighter 6 until summer. And Summer fighting game announcements and showcases are made in EVO. And well, Capcom has Pragmata and Exoprimal coming 2023 plus very likely SF6 will end being a 2023 so I think RE4 remake will be a 2024 game.
Ehhh June is Summer. While you do have a point in that usually fighting games show up at EVO most of the time that doesn't mean Sony can't have a teaser trailer or a snippet of gameplay. Capcom usually shows something at Sony shows. I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't see anything wrong with revealing a snippet of gameplay at this show followed up by character reveal and more gameplay at EVO.

Pragmata was supposed to be a 2022 game pushed to 2023. I think RE4 is long overdue.

The next 3 real big titles for Capcom are RE4, SF6 and Monster Hunter Next Gen but you won't see a next gen MH till 2024 for sure.

I could see RE4 and MH Next in 2024.

Pragmata, Exoprimal and SF6 2023.

Don't forget Dragons Dogma 2 if it's real. Capcom is on a roll these days.
 
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Elios83

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Looks like it's been leaked.

In for dat SF6 trailer. Can we get some Thicc Chun, please? 🤤😍

Also no FF XVI is...kinda surprising. Guess that might be Q1 2023 after all.


It's an obvious fake. They do this with every conference and every event :messenger_grinning_sweat:
I love the totally unnecessary angled shot to suggest the picture was taken secretly, at least this time it's not completely blurried (an other classic :messenger_tears_of_joy: ).
 
Get hype for this then.


I actually am quite looking forward to that game. That is a nice tushie 🍑🤤

I wonder if SF6 is exclusive to PS5?

An outdated leak from a couple years ago listed it as multiplatform, but things could have changed. I wouldn't be too surprised if it is exclusive. At the very least I expect Sony to have marketing rights with the game similar to how they have with COD currently, if in the case it's still multiplat.

A lot of people want to equate SFV as a failure because it was PS console-exclusive, but in actuality it has been a pretty big financial success for Capcom and has probably made more revenue and profit for them than SFIV and its variations in their entirety. The game did have a piss-poor launch, though, and they never fully delivered on single-player content the way they could've. That and better netcode should be priorities for them.

Even if SF6 is PS console-exclusive, long as they have actually good netcode and an ample amount of single-player content they shouldn't have anywhere near the rough start SFV did, should be able to sell a lot more copies lifetime and bring in a lot more revenue & profit. But that's only assuming anything's changed since the leak WRT console status.

Though at the very least I hope the PC version is very moddable :pie_smirking:
 
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yurinka

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Ehhh June is Summer.
I assume they meant Summer for the northern hemisphere, where summer starts June 21. The event is June 2nd, so still Spring.

While you do have a point in that usually fighting games show up at EVO most of the time that doesn't mean Sony can't have a teaser trailer or a snippet of gameplay. Capcom usually shows something at Sony shows. I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't see anything wrong with revealing a snippet of gameplay at this show followed up by character reveal and more gameplay at EVO.

Pragmata was supposed to be a 2022 game pushed to 2023. I think RE4 is long overdue.
I think it's possible to see in this June SoP a trailer for EVO mentioning that during its finals there will be announcement and reveals for different fighting game series like Street Fighter, Tekken, Mortal Kombat or Guilty Gear. In fact I think it would be great if Sony would pack them together in an August EVO SoP that could be also the one with a big GoWR gameplay reveal maybe focusing on combat and combos.

The next 3 real big titles for Capcom are RE4, SF6 and Monster Hunter Next Gen but you won't see a next gen MH till 2024 for sure.

I could see RE4 and MH Next in 2024.

Pragmata, Exoprimal and SF6 2023.

Don't forget Dragons Dogma 2 if it's real. Capcom is on a roll these days.
According to the leaked Capcom roadmap from early 2020 they had planned Exoprimal, Resident Evil Outrage (mistranslated as RE Outbreak as the leaker and whoever copypasted that mistranslation to the Nvidia list) and Pragmata planned for Jan-March 2022 but seems they got delayed a year due to covid.

They had the fighting game collection for this summer and isn't delayed. Then hey had Dragon's Dogma 2 planned for July-Sept 2022 and Street Fighter 6 and Megaman "Match" (can be a codename) for Oct-Dec 2022 but I bet both will have been delayed due to covid to 2023 too.

Then for Jan-March 2023 they had planned RE4 remake and a new Onimusha, that I assume also will have been delayed because I assume with Exoprimal, Pragmata, Dragon's Dogma 2 and Street Fighter 6 all could have been delayed to that quarter (I assume they will only release 2 big titles there).

Monster Hunter 6 (or Monster Hunter World 2, as you prefer to call it) was back then planned for July-September 2023, followed the next quarter by Resident Evil Apocalypse and a quarter later by Captain Commando.

Delays are very common, specially for unannounced games. And in this case we have covid on top.
 
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jm89

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I wonder if SF6 is exclusive to PS5?
Don't know if it's even worth getting exclusivity for sf6 anymore, playstation is pretty much the de facto console for fighting games and where the fgc is outside of smash of course.
 
I actually am quite looking forward to that game. That is a nice tushie 🍑🤤



An outdated leak from a couple years ago listed it as multiplatform, but things could have changed. I wouldn't be too surprised if it is exclusive. At the very least I expect Sony to have marketing rights with the game similar to how they have with COD currently, if in the case it's still multiplat.

A lot of people want to equate SFV as a failure because it was PS console-exclusive, but in actuality it has been a pretty big financial success for Capcom and has probably made more revenue and profit for them than SFIV and its variations in their entirety. The game did have a piss-poor launch, though, and they never fully delivered on single-player content the way they could've. That and better netcode should be priorities for them.

Even if SF6 is PS console-exclusive, long as they have actually good netcode and an ample amount of single-player content they shouldn't have anywhere near the rough start SFV did, should be able to sell a lot more copies lifetime and bring in a lot more revenue & profit. But that's only assuming anything's changed since the leak WRT console status.

Though at the very least I hope the PC version is very moddable :pie_smirking:

According to shpshal nick. from what he heard, it's been locked down as an exclusive since late 2020. things could of changed since then, but he did say that the whole file thing was outdated. we'll find out this summer either way summer's game fest or possibly this state of play. but I'm gonna say it's multiplatform imo.
 
According to shpshal nick. from what he heard, it's been locked down as an exclusive since late 2020. things could of changed since then, but he did say that the whole file thing was outdated. we'll find out this summer either way summer's game fest or possibly this state of play. but I'm gonna say it's multiplatform imo.

I don't really pay attention to them, but if it one more for the campfire then all the same. There's a lot of business sense on Capcom's end to make either case valid, but yeah I guess we'll either find out this week or next week for certain.

Even if it is multiplat, considering Sony's EVO investment they would have exclusive marketing rights anyway and who knows what else in terms of content, like exclusive beta accesses leading up to releaseor maybe extra outfits based on PlayStation characters.

Actually think a Kratos outfit for Ryu or Aloy Hoziron-inspiried one for Chun would be pretty cool tbh.
 

yurinka

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I wonder if SF6 is exclusive to PS5?
According to leaked Capcom mails from 2020 it will be multiplatform and crossgen: PS4, PS5, XBO, XBS, PC.

Back in the days Capcom needed money so got moneyhat from Sony for SF, from MS for Dead Rising and from Nintend for MH. Now they don't need moneyhats because have been many years performing great, so makes sense to go multiplatform and crossgen. The more userbase (with a decent, non wifi internet connection) they can reach, the better for them.

Sony now has EVO and the fighting games grew a lot in terms of revenue due to an increase in sales for all the main series and also all of them moved to a more GaaS approach. Street Fighter V had a rocky start but ended being a huge success. So pretty likely Sony may be interested on it and pretty likely signed a marketing deal with them, as they did with RE Village even if the game is multiplatform.
 
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Lognor

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I wonder if SF6 is exclusive to PS5?
Nah. Capcom won't make that mistake again. They want to sell the base game and dlc. I think they predominantly rely on dlc now. So why limit it to only ps5?

It'll be xbox one, xbox series, ps4 and ps5.

Remember, sf5 sales started off VERY poorly. It eventually did well at a much lower price point but Capcom will want to sell a lot of $60 copies, and they won't do that limiting it to ps5 only. Ps5 might get exclusive beta or cosmetic dlc,etc. Nothing of substance.
 

YukiOnna

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I did not know that, but from what I heard the game is heavily inspired by modern western action games. I don't know details from the story, but I'd be surprised if there was a party. I imagine there'll be a companion or something similar.
But that then means we'll have 2 action RPGs from Square Enix releasing soon, with Forspoken. I wonder if one will be moved to 2023. Or even both.

I don't remember hearing of FFT, but might be wrong. I have heard of other names which are not numbered entries though obviously have no idea they'll be in this SoP.
I am positive Final Fantasy XVI will be there because I heard an event was a few weeks away, but it is highly likely Square Enix might simply split their announcements between several events. This one might just have exclusive Sony stuff.
Oh hey, RPGSite is putting out a totally unrelated "question" that kind of matches your info. In other words, what you're saying is probably true given the individuals that work for them and it probably will be shown.
 

CamHostage

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Yeah with the current pattern for SOPs and you highlighting we've had a few already in a rather short span of time, increases the chances they may wait until September for their next big Showcase, at the very latest...
Or they could have the Showcase even later than that, technically, and do a dedicated SOP for Ragnarok in the Summer if say it's actually coming in August, which wouldn't be unusual for them.

Pretty sure they'll do a dedicated SoP solely for Ragnarok, with maybe a few straggler announcements. (That's the way they did Ratchet when it was paired with Subnautica Below Zero and Among Us announcements, though the Demons Souls, Horizon FW, GT7, and most recently Hogwarts Legacy State of Plays did not have bonus game announcements, so I don't know if that's Sony's practice to tether announcements to single-game SoPs or not?) There would be no reason to put GoW Ragnarok in a Future of PlayStation-type Showcase, it can stand on its own and they can announce when/how long GoW will finally get its re-unveiling (and hopefully launch date.)

https://www.ign.com/articles/every-sony-playstation-state-of-play-showcase-announcements

Showcase has been in September two years in a row now and I think that's how Sony likes it rather than that E3 spot.

June/July was a good time for announcements back in the day when Holiday-release games were 3/4s done in the Summer and you could set up your marketing push for the year with announcements six months ahead of time. These days, that may no longer be the best plan of attack. With the length of game development time and the secretiveness of the industry (against a rabid and fickle audience that is increasingly best served in not knowing about a product until it's time to go buy it, whether we like it that way or not...) and the tightrope danger of having a bad showing of work-in-progress software in front of the eyes of the world (as opposed to journalists who wrote up text, under guidance, and could distribute screenshots or capture shakeycam footage but not get direct-feed, live-streaming footage to people... man, 2004 was a long-ass time ago now,) the traditional summer announcement period tends to now be either too late or too early for how games get marketed.

It's still an opportune time for the press, and PR is still feeding that machine, as the kids are off school and our pavlovian dog minds are trained to start salivating for showcases in May/June/July, but we were seeing different strategies even before COVID killed E3. (Sony had already ducked the show the year it crashed, and Nintendo had mostly gone its own way years before, albeit they both still had major announcements in that June time period most but not all times since.) Microsoft still likes June, a lot of other publishers are still involved in the "Summer of Gaming" idea, maybe I'm underestimating the value of Q2 announcements for Q4/Q1/Q2/Q3 game releases, but my take is that it will continue to dissipate. And especially if you're a Sony-centric fan, enjoy the State of Plays for various good times but if you're looking to get PlayStation-pregnant, set your biological clocks for September.
 
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CamHostage

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I would call most show rundown leaks straight BS (especially camera-snapped printed papers... who are these top-line executives still printing pre-edited show rundowns on paper, and then why are their subordinates who steal the rundowns still using iPhone 4s?), however...

I will say this, this guy at least is naming names, not doing the typical, "GameX is getting a fifth sequel, GameY will be showing its annual release, this publisher will be showing Untitled GameZ Project..." Those copout lists where any one of us could have stuck +1# on popular games from the past 2-4 years due for a sequel or pulled a roster of developers who had hiring sprees for upcoming projects are not even fun to read anymore. Especially since a lot of them come back with, "Oh, it's being worked on, but they decided to not show it..." Oh, I see, so that'll be on your next "leaked" list too then?

Anybody who could have hit the bullseye leaking Exoprimal by name and concept before it showed, that's somebody to listen to, but of course, they don't exist.
 
Nah. Capcom won't make that mistake again. They want to sell the base game and dlc. I think they predominantly rely on dlc now. So why limit it to only ps5?

It'll be xbox one, xbox series, ps4 and ps5.

Remember, sf5 sales started off VERY poorly. It eventually did well at a much lower price point but Capcom will want to sell a lot of $60 copies, and they won't do that limiting it to ps5 only. Ps5 might get exclusive beta or cosmetic dlc,etc. Nothing of substance.

TBH I'm pretty confident SF6 will be multiplat as well but we need to be straight-up in the fact SFV being PS4 console-exclusive was not the reason to the slow start. It actually came down to the rushed nature of the game both in very limited single-player content, and online netcode that was noticeably worst than the earlier betas.

With those two issues any game would've seen bad initial sales, multiplat or not. It's a good thing for Capcom that most the FGC worship them as the king of the genre (even if there have been objectively better fighters than SF released at various points) because they're the ones that really helped it be successful in the end, between the tournaments, buying pretty much all the DLC, and getting more casuals interested into the game and the tournament scene therefore also supporting it with DLC purchases.

We need to kill this weird idea that SF6 being a console exclusive means that alone is going to be a hindrance in its revenue performance and cause it to fail, even if the likelihood is high it will be console multiplat & PC. I'm just more worried about the fact it may be XBO & PS4 cross-gen; unless they cut those systems off after Season 1 they could hamstring the future of the game.

if you're looking to get PlayStation-pregnant, set your biological clocks for September.

This should be the marketing tagline for the next big showcase 🤣.

But, good points all around. I was mistaken earlier thinking they had a June showcase last year, but they didn't. And most likely, they would've merged the June & September 2020 showcases together if they felt they could've done so.
 

CamHostage

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...I was mistaken earlier thinking they had a June showcase last year, but they didn't. And most likely, they would've merged the June & September 2020 showcases together if they felt they could've done so.

Remember that Xbox too had dual 2020 "showcases", one on May 7 called Xbox 20/20 (where they did a first-look at the hardware and games running on it more or less, with some next-gen/cross-gen debuts like Bright Memory Infinite, The Medium, The Ascent, AC Valhalla, Dirt 5, Second Extinction and others) and then the Xbox Games Showcase on July 23. (Xbox was actually planning monthly streams of 20/20 leading up to and maybe beyond Xbox Series X|S launch, but even as of the second 20/20 in June, they gave up and just said to look for everything in Showcase that July. So the year 2020 was supposed to be even more livestream-packed than it ended up being.

 
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kyoji

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Nah. Capcom won't make that mistake again. They want to sell the base game and dlc. I think they predominantly rely on dlc now. So why limit it to only ps5?

It'll be xbox one, xbox series, ps4 and ps5.

Remember, sf5 sales started off VERY poorly. It eventually did well at a much lower price point but Capcom will want to sell a lot of $60 copies, and they won't do that limiting it to ps5 only. Ps5 might get exclusive beta or cosmetic dlc,etc. Nothing of substance.
So much inaccuracy in one post
 

FingerBang

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Oh hey, RPGSite is putting out a totally unrelated "question" that kind of matches your info. In other words, what you're saying is probably true given the individuals that work for them and it probably will be shown.

I'm pretty confident what I've been told is accurate, but I am sharing only what is generic enough not to get my sources in trouble. I also believe the game has been fully playable for a while, but some things have been reworked because they're afraid of the reception.

I also imagine the release date will be a marketing choice more than a development one.

EDIT: Yeah, the writer of the article is playing dumb. He knows some of the things I know. It's not just the fact the game will be very action focused and not have a party, he's drawing comparisons with some titles that are the main inspiration for FFXVI. Can't be a coincidence.
 
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the closer its gets the more im looking forward to it. its been a while since we heard from sony, so anything is nice at this point. its probably a good idea to get some stuff out of the way for a bigger show sometime within the next 2 months.
 

saintjules

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I don't imagine GOW being there since usually their major games have their own dedicated episode.

Expecting smaller stuff and maybe one or two big games like FFXVI for instance. Hoping to see Little Devil Inside again with a release date..
 

Markio128

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That they are using the word exciting gives me some hope that they actually do have something exciting to share; surely Sony are aware of the negativity around some of the previous SOPs. I’m going to remain optimistic, but I doubt that there will be an announcement on FF16 release date, which is genuinely the one I’m most interested in.
 

Borowski_1

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That they are using the word exciting gives me some hope that they actually do have something exciting to share; surely Sony are aware of the negativity around some of the previous SOPs. I’m going to remain optimistic, but I doubt that there will be an announcement on FF16 release date, which is genuinely the one I’m most interested in.

"That they are using the word exciting gives me some hope"

You think they would say the show was going to be crap or boring?
 
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That they are using the word exciting gives me some hope that they actually do have something exciting to share; surely Sony are aware of the negativity around some of the previous SOPs. I’m going to remain optimistic, but I doubt that there will be an announcement on FF16 release date, which is genuinely the one I’m most interested in.
Sony marketing has a really low bar when it comes to considering things exciting, we should've all learned that lesson already by now after so many underwhelming State of Plays.
 

YukiOnna

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I'm pretty confident what I've been told is accurate, but I am sharing only what is generic enough not to get my sources in trouble. I also believe the game has been fully playable for a while, but some things have been reworked because they're afraid of the reception.

I also imagine the release date will be a marketing choice more than a development one.

EDIT: Yeah, the writer of the article is playing dumb. He knows some of the things I know. It's not just the fact the game will be very action focused and not have a party, he's drawing comparisons with some titles that are the main inspiration for FFXVI. Can't be a coincidence.
Yeah, the group there has been privy to insider info over the years even on GAF too so I just get a bit suspicious when articles like this come out. Hopefully June 2nd is when I get to see it.
Sucks he retired as of yesterday.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Get hype for this then.

Man this is the kind of trash I expect from bad third party conferences like Square Enix, Konami or Ubisoft conferences. Keep this trash out of my Playstation.

The only third party stuff Sony should be showing is AAA shit like CoD, Street Fighter, RE, Witcher and DMC. This game looks like a PS3 game. Why is this even at a State of Play or showcase or whatever sony called that conference last year.
 

Nico_D

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PS5 could use some games, or at least games I would like to play. My PS5 is atm just a PS4 machine. Also XBox is seeing a lot more plays. So, let's hope it's a good show.
 
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