S0ULZB0URNE
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Here is Why Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is a True Next-gen Game
GaviotaGrande
Banned
On PS5? Horizon: Forbidden West looks miles better.
The crazy thing is that this is where Xbox Series X should shine
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
We haven't seen enough of that to make a comparison but it could end up looking better.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Imagine a new Killer instinct on XSX.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Well now that we know there is likely a pc version coming, it should be automatically demoted based on this forum standard for all games developed for any platform that isn't next gen.
I mean really, every ms 1st party game that has been developed for more than just series x has been given this status so why not every sony one as well? Perhaps now, with the blinders off, we can put aside the garbage arguement that developing for more than one platform means a game cannot be true next gen.
And don't start with the lame arguement that a pc version doesn't get held back as much as say a xbox one version, since pc versions have to reach back across a broad spectrum of old hardware to sell well. (And always do)
I mean really, every ms 1st party game that has been developed for more than just series x has been given this status so why not every sony one as well? Perhaps now, with the blinders off, we can put aside the garbage arguement that developing for more than one platform means a game cannot be true next gen.
And don't start with the lame arguement that a pc version doesn't get held back as much as say a xbox one version, since pc versions have to reach back across a broad spectrum of old hardware to sell well. (And always do)
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That would actually be a good show piece for Xbox Series X right now
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Yeah as it has tons of particle effects plus liquid like effects they can enhance with RT.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I would love, really, and play it in Christmas timeOff Topic, any news about the secret project with Cerny behind it ?
I'm a simple man, I have nothing to do with Sony in person except buying many of their products with my cash.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Sleep for another 5-10 years then, while we're enjoying what we got.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Stop that BS right there, please.
PSB: PlayStation is no stranger to publishing titles on the PC, but Horizon: Zero Dawn is one of the largest games to make that leap. Is there anything you would say to PlayStation fans? What does it mean for the future?
HH: Sure. I think it’s important that we stay open to new ideas of how to introduce more people to PlayStation, and show people maybe what they’ve been missing out on.
And to maybe put a few minds at ease, releasing one first-party AAA title to PC doesn’t necessarily mean that every game now will come to PC. In my mind, Horizon Zero Dawn was just a great fit in this particular instance. We don’t have plans for day and date [PC releases], and we remain 100% committed to dedicated hardware.
Hermen Hulst Q&A: Interview with Head of PlayStation’s Worldwide Studios
What's next for Guerrilla, upcoming TV and film projects, and the guiding principles that drive PlayStation’s network of world-class game studios.
blog.playstation.com
Stop that BS right there, please.
PSB: PlayStation is no stranger to publishing titles on the PC, but Horizon: Zero Dawn is one of the largest games to make that leap. Is there anything you would say to PlayStation fans? What does it mean for the future?
HH: Sure. I think it’s important that we stay open to new ideas of how to introduce more people to PlayStation, and show people maybe what they’ve been missing out on.
And to maybe put a few minds at ease, releasing one first-party AAA title to PC doesn’t necessarily mean that every game now will come to PC. In my mind, Horizon Zero Dawn was just a great fit in this particular instance. We don’t have plans for day and date [PC releases], and we remain 100% committed to dedicated hardware.
Hermen Hulst Q&A: Interview with Head of PlayStation’s Worldwide Studios
What's next for Guerrilla, upcoming TV and film projects, and the guiding principles that drive PlayStation’s network of world-class game studios.
You actually responded to that bait? lol
I'm pretty sure he is a alt account from the Blu-ray is going to give you cancer dude.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
When I reply to someone, doesn't always mean that I take him/her seriously, but mostly to protect observers and readers from misleading information
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Physiognomonics
Member
Actually, no. On paper PS5 has the avantage of triangles, pixel performance (particles and transparencies) and higher quality RT (more rebounds) with fewer rays. XSX should shine on number of textures, higher resolution and more rays (will less rebounds, so lower quality).
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LED Guy?
Banned
This game looks NEXT-GEN!!
The graphics, the amounts of stuff happening at once on screen, particle effects, the enemy models look like CGI, the motion blur quality is the best ever, all that with Ray Traced Reflections too! The dimensions stuff is wonderful, it really has that NEXT-GEN feel to it like I have never seen before, and you can even see Subsurface Scattering to every skin of NPCs & monsters, it's unbelievable! Oh and it has a 60 FPS mode with 4K Reconstruction technique similar to how it was for Ratchet & Clank on PS4 Pro as DF said "it looks like a Native 4K image."
Oh and this new build looks BETTER than the older build as
NXGamer
has analyzed and has much more accurate RT reflections.
Only Sony can show true next-generation gaming while the other can't show a game running on their hardware!
The graphics, the amounts of stuff happening at once on screen, particle effects, the enemy models look like CGI, the motion blur quality is the best ever, all that with Ray Traced Reflections too! The dimensions stuff is wonderful, it really has that NEXT-GEN feel to it like I have never seen before, and you can even see Subsurface Scattering to every skin of NPCs & monsters, it's unbelievable! Oh and it has a 60 FPS mode with 4K Reconstruction technique similar to how it was for Ratchet & Clank on PS4 Pro as DF said "it looks like a Native 4K image."
Oh and this new build looks BETTER than the older build as
NXGamer
has analyzed and has much more accurate RT reflections.Only Sony can show true next-generation gaming while the other can't show a game running on their hardware!
Xbox Series X still should shine when it come to using compute for particles.
Physiognomonics
Member
Maybe. But it's more complicated. They are going to use async compute for that. Well the ACE engine runs about 20% faster on PS5 and the PS5 has more L2 (and most probably L1) cache by CU so the efficiency will be better on PS5 because latency will be lower.
I still expect XSX to have the advantage in compute heavy games, but when there are particles, usually there are plenty of transparencies and things to rasterize.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
Sony have completely outsmarted Microsoft. It started with the Lumen In The Land of Nanite UE5 demo which captured everyone’s imaginations and gave people a first look into what fast asset streaming can do. After this Xbox fans could not stop hounding Epic representatives to confirm if Series X could run the demo.
Now with Ratchet and Clank, it literally looks 2 generations ahead of Halo Infinite. At this point you have to feel bad for Xbox. The best software is running on the weaker of the two consoles. And it’s happening constantly.
midasmulligan
Member
But ray tracing is current gen technology 
Explosive Zombie
Banned
But ray tracing is current gen technology
Not on console, generations are determined by consoles, not PC.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Amaizng how narratives shift. Prior to the announcement of next gen consoles and features, everybody on this forum was unanimous and saying there should be two modes of play, one of them being 60fps and the other a graphics mode. Now it’s criticized and concern trolled.
Oh gaming, oh gamers.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
alabtrosMyster
Banned
I think your avatar should reflect that not only Craig is a shame, all the characters in the reveal were, so I added his boss in the frame at the back.
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
I think your avatar should reflect that not only Craig is a shame, all the characters in the reveal were, so I added his boss in the frame at the back.
Thanks for the new avy
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
A lot of the haters can’t afford it. That’s part of the reason they sit around on Internet forums and cry about it. Give them a PS5 and launch games for free and their attitude would do a 180 real quick lol.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
It's an honnor!
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
See that's the kind of shit I don't want in my thread. I bet you not a single Sony gamer will discuss this game in my thread.
|OT|Next-gen Graphics Qualifications
All: This thread is a pure TECHNICAL thread that allows members to discuss a game's graphics and how it meets the qualifications of considering it having next-gen visuals. It is NOT a thread of a subjective nature. Coming in here and trying to push saying, "this game has next-gen visuals...www.neogaf.com
No one gives a flying fuck about your opinion, your thread or the potential videos about your psychopathic obsession against Sony first party games so do us all a favour and piss off.
NoMoChokeSJ
Banned
Finally got to watch the trailer on my 4k big screen. Game looks fantastic but man the AI looks absolutely brain dead.. like stand there and do nothing brain dead. Hope was like this to show off the graphics. I played through the last R&C and I can't remember if the AI was more engaged or not.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Stop that BS right there, please.
PSB: PlayStation is no stranger to publishing titles on the PC, but Horizon: Zero Dawn is one of the largest games to make that leap. Is there anything you would say to PlayStation fans? What does it mean for the future?
HH: Sure. I think it’s important that we stay open to new ideas of how to introduce more people to PlayStation, and show people maybe what they’ve been missing out on.
And to maybe put a few minds at ease, releasing one first-party AAA title to PC doesn’t necessarily mean that every game now will come to PC. In my mind, Horizon Zero Dawn was just a great fit in this particular instance. We don’t have plans for day and date [PC releases], and we remain 100% committed to dedicated hardware.
Hermen Hulst Q&A: Interview with Head of PlayStation’s Worldwide Studios
What's next for Guerrilla, upcoming TV and film projects, and the guiding principles that drive PlayStation’s network of world-class game studios.
Wait so your using a March 10th article to refute new information that just came out in August? That makes sense. I mean you know, there is zero chance a large company could change a policy in 5 months.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Wait so your using a March 10th article to refute new information that just came out in August? That makes sense. I mean you know, there is zero chance a large company could change a policy in 5 months.
Ok bring an official statement mentioning PS5 games that are coming to PC, not some pseudo insider BS.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
To be honest, if that's true for some, then I won't laugh at them at all, but feel sorry and hope they manage to get a PS5 and enjoy their time. I only laugh at those who spend thousands on PC's then to play WOW and nude mods on old games and never buy new games at launch, then feed the biggest scam in gaming history (Star Citizen) $300 Million! Also those who have xbox and could've just bought PS instead and enjoyed quality time instead of waiting for E3 every year.
MrS
Banned
Never played a Ratchet game but this makes me want to. Looks absolutely amazing.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
OP has been updated (I do minor updates frequently), added this:
Subsurface scattering (translucency):
As noticed by
Pedro Motta
, you can see it clearly on the pinky alien on the left here.
Subsurface scattering (translucency):
As noticed by
Pedro Motta
, you can see it clearly on the pinky alien on the left here.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
More than likely it's a mixture, some mobile stuff like main protagonists and the enemies, along with some effects, are raytrace reflected, some effects like that purple portal isn't raytraced so it doesn't show up. It's a pre-alpha build and it's more than likely to address those in the final build. The rest seem to be cubemapped which is smart and performance efficient. We need smart usage of RT as we only saw real raytracing in 2018 in gaming, it's still a new and taxing tech. But with some smart, efficient ray tracing methods like this, software-based:
They are now working on real-tile raytracing on smartphones! Sony seemed to have made a deal with them, as they've mentioned one console, and they've shown Spiderman mockup, and it's a property of Sony and Marvel.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Might be time to start reporting him as he's been doing this for a long time.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Most demos are played on easy, or even sub-easy mode to demonstrate the game. Expect better experience as the PS4 was pretty nicely done in terms of fun and difficulty.
Tschumi
Member
Re 60 fps option.. the videos we've watched are, i assume, 30 fps.. did anyone at any point think there was something disappointingly sluggish about anything? It looks incredible, fast, slick.. surely this challenges the next gen narrative about 60 fps. Metroid Prime was locked to 60fps.. it's just not so all-important~~~
Bo_Hazem
Banned
60fps minimum is extremely important when you're playing FPV and car games. 60fps is a good option for other games but not critical. I always choose graphics over framerates for 3rd person view games on the PS4 Pro, and framerates if it's FPV like Borderlands 3.