GymWolf
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Overwatch runs on a potato, you are not gonna get near close 500 frames with serious games in 4k.
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Skifi28
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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Correct. I'm currently in the market for a new card (sitting on an LG 4K/144Hz monitor) and i simply refuse to buy the "old junk" 3090 Ti since it's already struggeling at 4K in a lot of scenarios. This is for 60fps, let alone more than that.
Native rendering is certainly very expensive but with DLSS you can get away with a lot.
I think DLSS balanced 4K looks excellent with no loss of visual quality.
As long as I can get a card which will last until end of gen with guaranteed 4k60 I'll be happy, especially at these absurd prices.
DenchDeckard
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I have a 4090 Rog Strix here with me and it wont fit in my Corsair 5000T. This thing is ludicrous! I cant use it 
Its honestly mind blowing how big these cards are. The length isnt the issue.....its the girth...You cant close the side panel glass or place your side panel on due to the height/girth and with that connector....No way I'm bending a cable to try.
Its honestly mind blowing how big these cards are. The length isnt the issue.....its the girth...You cant close the side panel glass or place your side panel on due to the height/girth and with that connector....No way I'm bending a cable to try.
How on earth have you got yourself a hand on the 4090?I have a 4090 Rog Strix here with me and it wont fit in my Corsair 5000T. This thing is ludicrous! I cant use it
Its honestly mind blowing how big these cards are. The length isnt the issue.....its the girth...You cant close the side panel glass or place your side panel on due to the height/girth and with that connector....No way I'm bending a cable to try.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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OverHeat
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Will fit in my case I will buy it from uI have a 4090 Rog Strix here with me and it wont fit in my Corsair 5000T. This thing is ludicrous! I cant use it
Its honestly mind blowing how big these cards are. The length isnt the issue.....its the girth...You cant close the side panel glass or place your side panel on due to the height/girth and with that connector....No way I'm bending a cable to try.
AetherZX
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Gonna have to second this. That's useful info if he actually does have one, so it's time for the receipts.He hasn't. Otherwise he'd be posting a picture.
DenchDeckard
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What case have you got?
The strix is insane....I'm going to have to switch my plans and swap it for a different model
Pure sadge!
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DenchDeckard
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Edit...don't need to prove anything. 
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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The Corsair 5000T has (up to) 400mm clearance for the GPU. The Strix 4090 is 358mm. How does it not fit?
I don't think pictures do it justice.
Jay2cents video gives a better idea.
DenchDeckard
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You guys aren't really taking in what I'm saying. It's not the length of the gpu. It's the width...the girth...the height from the mobo...it sticks out wider than the case is. You can't fit the power adapter in and close the case.
Fredrik
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No prob, that’s a huge case when it comes to space for the graphics card - 422 mm max length
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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I see, thanks for clearing that up. Can you say how much room there needs to be in your estimation for it to be able to close up properly?
DenchDeckard
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its the height/width that is the issue not the length, unfortunately.No prob, that’s a huge case when it comes to space for the graphics card - 422 mm max length
I'd say you need an extra 3 to 4 cm from the width thats advertised as the adapter that comes with the card is wrapped in electrical tape/shielding and is very firm, I wouldn't dare risk bending it to try and make it squeeze in the case.
I've heard the TUF is not as wide and the same for other options....I may just have to go with an FE, which would be the best cost wise VS the strix anyway...she aint cheap.
OverHeat
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Lian li evo 011 but I would tear it down and put a waterblock on it.What case have you got?
The strix is insane....I'm going to have to switch my plans and swap it for a different model
Pure sadge!
DenchDeckard
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Don't think it would fit dude, sorry. Not the strix anyway. Probs have issues with the power connector.
GymWolf
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The thing is, not every game use dlss.
And i'm not sure if i want to use dlss3 if the tech introduce input lag.
And the card you search, sure as hell is not a 3080 12gb that can't do 4k60 NOW with many games, imagine in 5 years.
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skneogaf
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I'm now debating if I should buy a 4090, my 3090ti is very quiet at 4k@60fps but 4k@120hz it is a jet engine.
I get strobing too if there is a big jump between frames on my oled whereas locked 60fps is perfect.
Allowing a gpu to go full speed when in the same room as you will never be quiet enough.
I think far more 4090 cards will be available to buy after launch so I may wait for reviews even if nvidia contact me to say one is available.
I get strobing too if there is a big jump between frames on my oled whereas locked 60fps is perfect.
Allowing a gpu to go full speed when in the same room as you will never be quiet enough.
I think far more 4090 cards will be available to buy after launch so I may wait for reviews even if nvidia contact me to say one is available.
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daninthemix
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1-2 years??? I'm dropping 2k on a 4090 in the hope that I can stick with it for 5 years or so...
GymWolf
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It always depends how do you play games.
4k? 120 fps? Max rtx always enabled?
I can see you playing with settings to achieve those things way before the gen ends, let's be serious here, i think that no gpu in the history of gpus was enough to play at max settings for 5 years straight, it comes to a point where you have to play with settings to get what you want.
That doesn't mean that you can't stick with it for even more than 5 years if you are not one of those ultra settings at all cost nuts.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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It all depends on your personal goals and expectations. 4k/60fps everything ultra including RT? Not a chance. However, your card will be roughly at the x60 level of NV cards in 6 years time or so. So still usable.
Fredrik
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Never thought about that, oops
If they can run 1440p60 on the consoles I think 4k60 should be easy enough. I agree the 3080 is not enough though. It can't even run Cyberpunk 4k60.
It also depends if you want RT.
I'm simply hoping all future PC titles will feature DLSS/FSR by standard tbh.
OverHeat
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Like I said I would only use the PCB.
DenchDeckard
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It's the power plug that is the issue so unless you can move that I dont think you would get a strix in their at all lol!
GymWolf
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You underestimate how low are console settings and how much frames you eat by cranking them up on pc.
Rdr2 console had some settings below low on pc, a game running at 1440p60 or 4kcheckboard30 means nothing if console use low settings.
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Fredrik
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There are mounting brackets to flip the graphics card fans facing the side. Will the Strix fit that way?
From Lian Li’s website. What graphics card is this?
How thick is it from backplate to face, would there be any room left on a vertical mount or would it be rammed against the case side and have airfow issues?
edit: I think a 3 slot vertical mount would maybe work judging by the end on shot i found below
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Its the height from pcie/mobo to the top of the card, that card is barely above the bracket, this card goes on for miles above the mounting bracket.
This is the dimension Dench is talking about guys.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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I think i have decided that i'd rather run my rig open with a 4090 until i switch cases than settle for less performance on some other gpu 
I can respect that, it's like running with the hood off your car until you get it cut to fit the blowerI think i have decided that i'd rather run my rig open with a 4090 until i switch cases than settle for less performance on some other gpu
Black_Stride
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Yes and the Amp Extreme Holo is the same size in that dimension.Its the height from pcie/mobo to the top of the card, that card is barely above the bracket, this card goes on for miles above the mounting bracket.
This is the dimension Dench is talking about guys.
Unless the dimensions we are seeing online are wrong, then the Amp Extreme Holo and the Strix 4090 are both ~149mm.
And it also comes with the same adapter.
GHG
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I have a 4090 Rog Strix here with me and it wont fit in my Corsair 5000T. This thing is ludicrous! I cant use it
Its honestly mind blowing how big these cards are. The length isnt the issue.....its the girth...You cant close the side panel glass or place your side panel on due to the height/girth and with that connector....No way I'm bending a cable to try.
Where are the pictures? Show that bad boy off.
Rbk_3
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Yes and the Amp Extreme Holo is the same size in that dimension.
Unless the dimensions we are seeing online are wrong, then the Amp Extreme Holo and the Strix 4090 are both ~149mm.
And it also comes with the same adapter.
If these wouldn't fit in a 5000D they're not going to fit in many cases.
lukilladog
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Source?
DenchDeckard
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There are mounting brackets to flip the graphics card fans facing the side. Will the Strix fit that way?
From Lian Li’s website. What graphics card is this?
I think vertical mount would work but it would literally cover half of your PC lol!
On PC Partpicker I found this build in a 5000D and it has a Zotac AMP Extreme Holo 3090ti thats the same width as the Strix at 149mm and there is acres of room. This guy is being way too conservative on bending that cable adapter if he can't get it to fit.
I think i have decided that i'd rather run my rig open with a 4090 until i switch cases than settle for less performance on some other gpu
I can respect that, it's like running with the hood off your car until you get it cut to fit the blower
This is genuinely what I thought when I was holding it up to my case to look at getting it to fit hahaha!
Yes and the Amp Extreme Holo is the same size in that dimension.
Unless the dimensions we are seeing online are wrong, then the Amp Extreme Holo and the Strix 4090 are both ~149mm.
And it also comes with the same adapter.
Something doesn't add up...I cant explain to you how much bigger this card it than that.
I dont get it. Ill take some pics. It does fit in my case.
I may post some more but I think its ok as long as it is only unboxed. I wouldnt want to get anyone in trouble
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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Igorslab just had their piece on it translated to English.
DenchDeckard
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On PC Partpicker I found this build in a 5000D and it has a Zotac AMP Extreme Holo 3090ti thats the same width as the Strix at 149mm and there is acres of room. This guy is being way too conservative on bending that cable adapter if he can't get it to fit.
Just a heads up that card in the image you have shown is not the card the user says it is. I have the card here with me and it doesnt match up. it looks like the 3080.
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Croatoan
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I have a 2080ti right now. I really have wanted a new card for a while but held off on the 3000 series because I usually skip generations before buying a new one. I have never felt the need need to buy "the 90s" so I am looking at the 4080 16gb and the 4080 12gb. I do not want to buy a used 3000 series.
Will the 12gb be gimped compared to the 16? Is it worth the extra money for the 16? I want a 4000 series card because I like DLSS and want DLSS 3.0. I play at 1440p on an 144hz gsync monitor. Current mobo is PCI Express 3.0 and I have a i9-10900k.
Will the 12gb be gimped compared to the 16? Is it worth the extra money for the 16? I want a 4000 series card because I like DLSS and want DLSS 3.0. I play at 1440p on an 144hz gsync monitor. Current mobo is PCI Express 3.0 and I have a i9-10900k.
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Rbk_3
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Here is a review same card in 5000T case
"Our GamesRadar test PC is built inside of the Corsair 5000T, so thankfully we had more than enough room in the larger-than-average Mid Tower to accommodate the card with its three-slot requirement. If you've got a smaller chassis to work with then you may need to look elsewhere for your next video card as I would personally recommend a larger Mid Tower or a Full Tower for a GPU like this."
Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 Ti Amp Extreme Holo review: "Too big, too much, too late"
The Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 Ti Amp Extreme Holo is incredibly powerful, but it's a little too late to the party to justify its high asking price
I am interested to see your pictures cause I have a 5000D and have the Gigabyte ordered and it is even a little wider.
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DenchDeckard
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Here is a review same card in 5000T case
"Our GamesRadar test PC is built inside of the Corsair 5000T, so thankfully we had more than enough room in the larger-than-average Mid Tower to accommodate the card with its three-slot requirement. If you've got a smaller chassis to work with then you may need to look elsewhere for your next video card as I would personally recommend a larger Mid Tower or a Full Tower for a GPU like this."
Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 Ti Amp Extreme Holo review: "Too big, too much, too late"
The Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 Ti Amp Extreme Holo is incredibly powerful, but it's a little too late to the party to justify its high asking pricewww.gamesradar.com
I am interested to see your pictures cause I have a 5000D and have the Gigabyte ordered and it is even a little wider.
Maybe I'm off then but it's honestly huge. Maybe it would fit fine. I just didn't feel confident from looking at it.
Here's a pic of them side by side.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
These are the official stats from ASUS themselves.
357.6 x 149.3 x 70.1mm
The 5000T can relatively easily fit a 150mm GPU in that space.
Unless the adapter that came with your card is like 0 gauge or something, it shouldnt be a problem fitting the card in a 5000D.
Like it wouldnt even be a tight fit....you would have tons of space.