You argue that you can accept other opinions and perspectives but here you are demolishing the idea that someone could love Abby as much as a character as Dante or Snake.
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You seem to wrongly intèrpret that accepting other opinions and perspectives means you have to say those opinions and perspectives are good and can't be criticized for some reason. That's not what accepting other perspectives means.
You are totally in your right to believe that Abby is as good of a character as Solid Snake. And I'm totally in my right to tell you that such opinion is so dumb it's like saying the 2018 Ghostbusters is as good of a movie as Children Of Men. I hate when people devolve into silly subjectivism.
You are labeling me even after I said I'm not calling you or anyone a bigot?
I'm literally saying that you aren't doing it.
I'm not deflecting, you are the one saying that Naughty Dog should avoid "politics".
Oh really? When I have said such thing?
Quite the contrary, in all of these TLOU2 threads, I repeated ad nauseam that Cuckmann is totally in his right to fill his games with whatever political agenda he wants.
But again, the fact that he has "opinions and perspectives" doesn't make him inmune to criticism.
My original intent was to suggest that even if they avoided politics there would still be people who would be annoyed and upset at the choices made for the story.
What you did was trying to equate SJW with people who critizice SJW polítics.
I mean, do you like Final Fantasy 7? Did you get all annoyed when they were pushing a love triangle between Cloud, Tifa and Aeries. Did you scream at the top of your lungs "WHY THE FUCK IS THIS RELATIONSHIP SHIT IN MY GAME????!!!!". Did you complain and ask why they are pushing for Cloud to be a straight man that is attracted to women?
Did you you enjoy God of War 1-3? Were you annoyed that they pushed the fact that Kratos was a straight man that was married to a woman?
I'm sometimes annoyed when a Love situation is added in any story just for the sake of it. Sometimes it's just a cop-out for not having to actually write something instead. But at least I know it's not part of a tòxic political propaganda.
What does it matter if the development company decides to put a trans character in a game? I mean, Japan has done it for years for joke characters. But put a serious trans character in a game and it's the end of the world. As long as it works for the story it's fine and it works perfectly fine with Lev.
Exactly, you have hit the nail here. Why does Japan gets away with so many trans, with so many gayness and so much weird gender stuff?
Because they actually do it for organical reasons, the only agenda they have is to make fun characters and stories. Their choices aren't dictated by following a woke agenda. And that's the point, people don't criticize lesbian characters or trans characters, people criticize using those characters as political weapons at the service of a toxic ideology.
Here you are with the bigot sandwich example again. The only example that you have. What other examples of bad writing do you have for TLOU2 that we can dissect?
More examples? Sure.
-Characters being dumb when the plot needs them to. Like when Abby literally gives mercy to Ellie not only once, but twice. Even Dina asks Ellie why they spared her life, and Ellie responded:
maybe they're dumb. Bravo.
-Pregnant woman who is a super important doctor going into the open when Abby literally tells her that she could stay if she asked. Well, obviously pregnant women are brave and stunning, so let's put this pregnant woman in a situation of danger to show how badass she is. Write something that makes sense as to why is she in that situation of danger you say? That's too much work.
-Terminator Abby. The most emotionless bitch ever, all her friends and her crush die because of her and her only reaction is to spare Ellie's life. 10/10 script.
-The embarrassing attempts at making us sympathize with She Hulk. Self explanatory, really. Look, a doggo! Quickly, we have to kill it. Do you start to feel bad for Abby yet? No, well... Look! A zebra!
-The Ending. Well, turns out that revenge bad, dude. We have decimated half the population of the USA, but when the person who genuinely deserves to die is at our mercy, fucking Joel playing guitar appears and suddenly we came to the realization that revenge bad. Are your expectations subverted enough?
-Dina & Ellie's relationship. Zero chemistry and so boring is not even funny. And of course the asian guy had to die so they could make a family. You know Ellie? You could have killed the psychopath who killed Jesse and bring some closure for the people who loved him, but neither you or Dina cared about him at all. Cycle of revenge has to be stopped at this particular moment for subverting reasons!
And there's much more, but I don't remember them all right now and I don't think we have to go through all of it right now.