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DF: CONTROL PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S 60 Fps and RT mode
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sircaw
Banned
how much did your tv cost?
So even though ps5 is performing better, you claim it's a win for the SX because atm it has VRR enabled? Do you realise how ass backward that is? 12 vs 10(8tf according to some of you guys) and you need to pull the VRR card to claim victory.You haven't watched the videoThey specifically say that they would challenge anyone to see any problems with VRR
My VRR works from 48hz to 120hz so yes it fixes it on Xbox making it the best version.
Please , get your head out of phil Spencer's ass and start saying something intelligent.
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AnotherOne
Member
Lol good example it has to load up one arena and some cars
These threads where Xbox fans are fighting with PlayStation fans from a perspective of a PC player are like seeing two dudes arguing if Toyota Corolla is better or Honda Civic is better while you're driving in a custom Porsche.
Vroom, vroom suckers..
Too dumb.. yeah a porche costs 150k civic costs 30k... ps5/xsx price bargin compared to a pc.
sircaw
Banned
And you don't have to buy an expensive tv too, and sony gives you the best controller with their console.
DJ12
Member
I stopped taking Tom seriously when he said Series S version of FIFA was also 4k.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
Too dumb to get my point, huh?
pasterpl
Member
Are these actual load times across all platforms?I see that you conveniently missed out the fact that loading times on the Xbox consoles are faster than PS5. The X is 0.3 milliseconds faster the PS5, and the S is even better, with a massive 0.6 milliseconds advantage. So much for Cerny's secret sauce magical SSD! Quite frankly, this huge gulf in performance should make anyone thinking of getting a PS5 start having second thoughts.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Hmm Series X stutters, could be problematic than the 3-5fps drops occasional dropson ps5
New Yorks Finest
Banned
These threads where Xbox fans are fighting with PlayStation fans from a perspective of a PC player are like seeing two dudes arguing if Toyota Corolla is better or Honda Civic is better while you're driving in a custom Porsche.
Vroom, vroom suckers..
Nah its more like:
S|X aka F35
PS5 aka is yours even coil whine
I kid, I kid !!..do NOT gang up Assassinate me.
NullZ3r0
Banned
What's up with all of these bugs on Xbox versions? Is MS running BC in a VM? Annoying to hear about.
But what really surprises me is that the Xbox versions load faster than the PS5. This shouldn't even be possible. In fact, throughout this summer it was unthinkable.
But what really surprises me is that the Xbox versions load faster than the PS5. This shouldn't even be possible. In fact, throughout this summer it was unthinkable.
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NullZ3r0
Banned
This is so stupid. Series X and PS5 run the game at 1440p. So much for 4K consoles, huh?
Insane Metal
Member
That, too. Anyway, 1440p is much clearer than 900p. I mean just watch the video. The low resolution screws up with the image quality on Series S.
AnotherOne
Member
You sure you have enough braincells to make an analogy
and get into an argument?
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bxrz
Member
Like the Xbox stutters that this thread is arguing about right now?Now be a good boy and reveal those PS5 dips were actually due to a dynamic res bug and can be easily fixed.
Fixed:
Fixed:
waquzy
Member
He has got the low end LG NanoCell TV, nothing worth mentioning, it has awful local dimming. You can get one around £650
This isn't about data caps because you could actually have it install from compressed data. This is about having more SDD space to install more games.
sircaw
Banned
i was just wondering how much extra i had to pay to win the face-off.
John Wick
Member
No it's totally different but nice try. Compatible with 8K displays doesn't mean games are running at 8K. MS said it would play SX quality games at 1440p
Md Ray
Member
More like no difference in load times. It probably has to do with this:
PS5 File Size: ~25 GB
XSX File Size: ~42 GB
DJ12
Member
those bugs, if indeed they are and not just DF yet again failing to see the deficiency of the series X|S design, are not impressive.
PS5 bugging and not enabling dynamic res, producing a 4k image and still managing 49 FPS despite rendering more than twice the number of pixels is though.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
Whoa, whoa. Easy there, tiger.You sure you have enough braincells to make an analogy
Yes, a decent PC is at least 5 times more expensive than a console.
Yes, a Porsche is 5 times more expensive than a regular car.
It's not about the money but about the driving / gaming expierience.
How can you not get it?
Vroom, vroom.
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DJ12
Member
Porsche, schmorche'sWhoa, whoa. Easy there, tiger.
Yes, a decent PC is at least 5 times more expensive than a console.
Yes, a Porsche is 5 times more expensive than a regular car.
It's not about the money but about the driving / gaming expierience.
How can you not get it?
Vroom, vroom.
Everyone knows the best driving experience available is a cheap ass rental car with prepaid insurance cover.
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AnotherOne
Member
Whoa, whoa. Easy there, tiger.
Yes, a decent PC is at least 5 times more expensive than a console.
Yes, a Porsche is 5 times more expensive than a regular car.
It's not about the money but about the driving / gaming expierience.
How can you not get it?
Vroom, vroom.
I was being sarcastic... isn't that what people do in these threads
btw I love you bro no homo.
Gamerguy84
Member
If it's #1 in your hearts 
than YOU, yes you, have the best version.
than YOU, yes you, have the best version.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Kind of, I admin that some PS fan act as if the PRO was as powerful than the one X because some games play better on it (the apparent reason being that they are more tempted to target native 4k on the more powerful hardware).
But also, they, as a group, acted as if MS had the most powerful console the day the damn thing was announced (18 months prior to release, it left the PRO over a year on the market as "the most powerful console").
Seriously, even if it was an actual 20 - 40% difference it would not be that big of a deal with dynamic resolutions on a 4k monitor (but there would be little point in having any kind of argument about it, this would just be what it is, and if performance affects the games you want to play you would have had to seriously consider an xbox).
If the PS5 had a predictable 44% performance deficit with lesser RT performance as well, that would start to seriously put the console in an embarrassing position as a "next-gen" offering... still it would be only what the worst of the worst "technical experts" on this forum predicted, so the end result would only be them gloating more, which we saw plenty of in the Control DF thread.
Now:
- The consoles perform about the same
- They cost the same (over simplification, because you can get a digital ps5 for 100$ less, which gives you the same performance)
Yup, why can't they just act normal about it and tone it down a notch or two when the series x has a resolution advantage but it drops frames?
Our lives would all be better.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
It wouldn't be a victory with VRR, VRR just brings it up to par
I wonder how Control 2 will be on these consoles.
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alabtrosMyster
Banned
Nope, it's at least like this, with the raytracing and all!PS5 aka is yours even coil whine
FlyyGOD
Member
So much for Ps5 and Series x being 4k machines too right?
NullZ3r0
Banned
People who buy a Series S don't care.
MasterCornholio
Member
So you can fit more games on the SSD. Also is it really that much faster that it's worth the increased install size?
Control UE File Size | PS5 Version is ~40% Smaller than Xbox Series X's
"Lot of changes in things like how we handle data etc." Control Ultimate Edition seems like a good first example of how data compression, I/O, and SSD will work on the PS5. The Xbox Series X Version's file size is roughly 68 percent bigger than the PS5 version. If this trend continues (~50...
What I would be really interested in seeing is what the XSX load times would be like with that level of compression.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Doesn't temporal reconstruction have a cost, far as I know it does.
So it not as simple 2k render
I could be wrong...
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Riky’s VRR will clean that right up.
In frame-rate graph there is a dip to 40s. In the top of the screen we see 50fps.
Strange.
Riky
$MSFT
Jealousy is a terrible thing
The low end Nanocells are the 7 series which don't even support HDMI 2.1. Neither does the start of the 8 Series actually.
Esppiral
Member
The photomode unlocks the frame rate in graphics mode (ray tracing) a missed opportunity to check how both consoles perform with ray tracing and without the 30 fps cap.
I tried it on Xbox series X and in non busy scenes it manages to render at 60 fps+ ray tracing.
I think there is room on both consoles to improve the graphic settings.
I tried it on Xbox series X and in non busy scenes it manages to render at 60 fps+ ray tracing.
I think there is room on both consoles to improve the graphic settings.
sircaw
Banned
When ps5 gets its VRR sorted your gonna need to find something new Riky, any thoughts?Jealousy is a terrible thing
The low end Nanocells are the 7 series which don't even support HDMI 2.1. Neither does the start of the 8 Series actually.
Riky
$MSFT
It will actually, it works in the 40's but since that's a cut scene transition and not playable it's irrelevant, you can see it returns to target on that very graph when you take control.
Riky
$MSFT
I won't need to find anything new........my Xbox will still support VRR
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
How do you measure the framerate?
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Probably more like a million, but it's pretty easy to see that people buying a system that was clearly targeting a lower resolution were not as worried about 4K. It's hardly a stretch. Seen many series S owners posting how unhappy they are? Nope.
And none of you have anything to say about PS5 "misrepresenting" or "branding" the PS5 as a 8K capable machine and yet to date we have zero 8K games. (At least the series S actually has some 1440p games.)
And what, we have 1 game for PS5 that supports 4K at 120hz? That seems to suggest the Sony isn't being honest, I must have missed the thread where you were bashing them for being dishonest and scamming buyers.
waquzy
Member
Better do your homework next time, here it is, a low end: LG Nano866NA with 2 x HDMI 2.1 ports for only £649, with awful local dimming.Jealousy is a terrible thing
The low end Nanocells are the 7 series which don't even support HDMI 2.1. Neither does the start of the 8 Series actually.
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FrankWza
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Dont the PS5 AND series x say that on the box? That was a patch that was coming later anyway. Did they say the series s needed a patch to be a 1440 machine?
Riky
$MSFT
Better do your homework next time, here it is, a low end: LG Nano866NA with 2 x HDMI 2.1 ports for only £649, with awful local dimming.
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That's not the lowest series Nanocell, you can get a lower 8 Series cheaper than that
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The 7 series is even cheaper.
Bumblebeetuna
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Man what’s with devs releasing these XSX games with weird bugs that affect visuals and performance. So the PS5 has crushed blacks and the XSX stutters some, both of which should be patched, and then it’s a wash. I assume these eight pages are fanboy bullshit and cries of DF bias for Xbox.
waquzy
Member
No Riky, you have misunderstood me, I'm not talking about the NanoCell series' in general. I am talking about the low-end/the cheapest TV you can get that has the 2.1HDMI port and that is what you got. So yeah, there you go. It's shite, better than nothing for sure, but don't act like you own something special, because let's face it - you don't!That's not the lowest series Nanocell, you can get a lower 8 Series cheaper than that
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The 7 series is even cheaper.
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THE DUCK
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Now your grasping at straws, so what if it has a tiny print saying "some features might come later". We all know the PS5/Series X is no more a 8K machine (or a 120hz 4k one) than the S is really a 1440P machine.
The fact is, both Sony and MS claim the highest spec possible - so it's a mystery why the series S is held to a higher standard. It's almost as though Sony owners are trying to justify why MS sucks, or MS series X owners are justifying the extra money they spent and trying to look down and laugh at anyone who might buy something different?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Isn't the PS5 version 40% smaller?