Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Or the VRR filesIt may include Series S version
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DF: CONTROL PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S 60 Fps and RT mode
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
The ps 25gb is 40.47% smaller
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Mr Moose
Member
And the Series X version is 68% larger than the PS5 version.
Topher
Gold Member
More than likely the case, but why?
Hayabusabruh
Member
I can't believe I just bought this.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
sigh. The PS5 can be 40% smaller and the XSX can be 68% larger at the same time.
you were making fun of the guy for doing correct math while not fully understanding it yourself.
DJ12
Member
Not if you play with rt or they don't fix the massive drops that aren't to do with the 'io stuttering'
Our resident VRR 'expert' has already said vrr does work as low as series x is dropping.
Rt mode is below the threshold at all times so you are out of luck there too
John Wick
Member
That's exactly my point!
ethomaz
Banned
Not just that.
The 40% smaller is normally not used in direct comparisons.
Both are correct but the bigger/larger is more used.
DJ12
Member
Tales from your ass
Should have read further there were more lol worthy posts.
Series s and x use the same files, please show a difference between the two versions other than the lower resolution on s.
You are the gift that keeps on giving.
Hit me up with a triggered emoji and move on with your clown shoes.
Comical riky.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
If one is determined enough, VRR can also enable the RT in 60 FPS mode on Xbox Series X.
Physiognomonics
Member
That's very unlikely. Since 2013 (at least) all games are by default compressed with zlib (Kraken is now possible on PS5). And The PS4 game has about the same size as the Xbox one and this game (like all PS4 games) is definitely compressed using zlib.
BTW Zlib is already a pretty good (and rather demanding) compression algorithm.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Spokker
Member
I played it on Xbox One X all the way through (good game, but overrated), and there were these weird ass hitches when you opened the map, and the map wouldn't even load all the way. I wonder if it's related to the little hitches happening on Xbox Series X.
waquzy
Member
Because Riky's got a VRR
kyliethicc
Member
I heard he used VRR to run God of War on his xsx too
Negotiator101
Member
Well Hitman 3 Well and truly put an end to this so called trend by actually having a meaningful difference. This is litterly the same game on both, as has been the case on 99% of games so far. The fanboys have been quick to claim victory with the smallest of differences, its pretty sad actually.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Heard similar rumors. Must be true. Considering how powerful the VRR magical powers can be in the right hand, I don't doubt it.
waquzy
Member
Rumor has it, he also uses it in the bedroom, to fix any stutters, lag and impotence, er... input i mean.
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Riky
$MSFT
It runs on both machines, only Remedy know how much space the Series S files take up, you certainly don't
The Hamburglar
Banned
Keep on digging that hole for yourself with your made up nonsense.
th Xbox version doesn’t have two files. Either the devs haven’t compressed it because they couldn’t be bothered or the Xbox ssd isn’t good enough for it.
Aidah
Member
Obviously these threads and videos aren't really about picking which version to play, but if you're one of the 5 people who has both consoles, have never played this game, and is interested in playing it, then PS5 is a clear choice. Runs a little bit better, has Dualsense support, file size is apparently much smaller, and it's not even going to cost you anything extra if you already have PS+. Xbox version on the other hand offers no advantages.
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Riky
$MSFT
Jealousy is a terrible thing, maybe Sony will sort some VRR for you right after they sort the no expandable next gen storage and coil whine, fingers crossed eh.
The Hamburglar
Banned
To quote a smart man ‘it has vrr Xbox therefore has the best version’
Md Ray
Member
Xbox has both GPU related drops + stutter. During combat on Xbox at 9:00, the fps dips to ~58fps due to GPU-bound followed by a stutter the next second which drags the frame-rate down even further to 53fps (pay attention to the frame-time graph at this moment).
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Riky
$MSFT
You really are stupid. The file runs on both machines, you don't know how much the Series S version files take up only Remedy does.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Meh. Who needs VRR when PS5 has the best frame rates and performance in all games
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
So you don't know either?
ethomaz
Banned
First it was a flip in the slider to scale to Series S... now it is a entry different version lol
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The Hamburglar
Banned
The only thick person here is you. You’re literally making stuff up to make excuses why one game takes up less space.
You keep back peddling on your garbage so now you resort to list wars.
Larger ssd space, expandable storage.
Shame you can’t use 12tf and eats monsters for breakfast since the tower of power isn’t out performing (again).
John Wick
Member
hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa
Riky
$MSFT
So you don't know either?
I don't, but I know the same file works on both, you have to be pretty dumb to think the Series S version runs with zero lines of code like some obviously do here.
John Wick
Member
Riky your getting owned like usual.......Quit while your ahead because VRR won't help............
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I think that's what they meant with Smart Delivery. Have both versions all downloaded, installed, and ready.
So in cross-gen games, a game would have Xbox One, Xbox One X, Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S, all versions downloaded and installed on every console. Real Smart Big Brain Move.
Phil Spencer be like:
Riky
$MSFT
You really are triggered
It isn't made up, the same file runs on both machines.
Mr Moose
Member
A few kb, it's just an .ini file isn't it?
Riky
$MSFT
Ask Remedy.
DJ12
Member
Series s uses the same settings at a lower resolution, therefore its the same files in use.It runs on both machines, only Remedy know how much space the Series S files take up, you certainly don't
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are not being serious rather than assume you're actually this dumb.
John Wick
Member
You need a remedy for your stupidity
Riky
$MSFT
It always helps, which is why I'm playing the smoothest version of every next gen game, every time
Mr Moose
Member
I don't need to, there are no 2 versions for other games, why would this one be any different?
Let's use an Ubisoft game as an example:
Technical Specs
In order to install Immortals Fenyx Rising, players will need to ensure they have the following free space on their respective platforms:- PC: 30 GB
- Xbox: 25 GB
- PlayStation: 25 GB
- Nintendo Switch: 15 GB
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
It always helps, which is why I'm playing the smoothest version of every next gen game, every time
The VRR is really going to help you with RE8. Game was already dropping frames just going into the main room.
waquzy
Member
That's a new low even for you Riky, even the most hardcore Xbox fanboys would puke on this commentIt always helps, which is why I'm playing the smoothest version of every next gen game, every time
Riky
$MSFT
"On Xbox Series X it's 81.9GB for optimised Forza and 71.9GB for optimised Gears, and for the optimised versions on Xbox Series S, it's 71.4GB for Forza and 55.12GB for Gears"
DJ12
Member
Apart from this obviously as vrr don't work on the drops in this game according to yourself or at all in rt mode.It always helps, which is why I'm playing the smoothest version of every next gen game, every time
Also check the patch notes on vahalla. Always considerably smaller on one of the consoles. Originally I thought it was because the downgrades for parity weren't as drastic as the updates needed the other side, but I guess it's becoming apparent there's something else at work.
Mr Moose
Member
BC games. How big are they on One S and One X?
BbMajor7th
Member
I think there's actually a certain amount of schadenfreude involved. Based on spec reveals, there was a lot of assumption going around that the Series X would walk away with a visible margin in the majority of third party games. MS themselves were placing a lot of emphasis on hardware superiority in their marketing and that only stoked these expectations. The fact that, so far, the Series X has been either mostly on par, and even a little behind in some cases, isn't what people were expecting. People who were brow beaten over teraflops last summer are perhaps understandably a little smug to see relative parity, while those that did the brow beating are apt to be defensive. I honestly think it would be completely different if the pre-amble hadn't placed so much emphasis on hardware specs.
ethomaz
Banned
That is the HD texture pack that only install in Series X... it is how Smart Delivery works.
Control uses the same assets.
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