YeulEmeralda
Member
I feel like Nvidia is okay with surrendering the lower end of the market (anything under a 4080) to AMD or Intel. Same way Apple doesn't make a budget phone.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
But what AMD cards? Where are they?
Lisa‘s adding the VRAM as we speak
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
$600+ is budget now? Yikes! Not good.
Senua
Member
When Budget costs more than a PS5!
Budget is 4050 and below, though I say that and they'll then release a $400 4050 next and I'll have to kick my own arse.
Leonidas
Member
Nvidia will likely release 4060 and 4050 before AMD launches a mid-low end card that alone shows that Nvidia haven't given up.
The lower end market matters a lot, take a look at the Steam Hardware Survey, in the top ten most cards are Nvidia 50 and 60 series.
It's AMD who has given up. Their cheapest current gen card has an MSRP of $899...
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Silver Wattle
Gold Member
You do realize I posted a video with similar gains when you yourself said and I quote "barely" has the same performance as the high end 3x series which was false and you've proven wrong. Are you a fucking idiot? Dont answer that, it's rhetorical. Funny how you also avoided the DLSS3 discussionAlso a 3090 is at almost double the price of a 4070TI right now on amazon. SO you're paying almost 100% of the price for 5% performance over a 4070TI and with DLSS3 on which 3090's dont have, you lose almost 50% performance vs a 4070TI. All facts. But yeah,go ahead and buy a 3090 and be a fucking moron. And for people crying about prices, fucking hell, inflation has been here for 2 years, how the fuck are you all still expecting GPU prices to be the same as 6 years ago? Jesus. No wonder gaf is a minority. You know what, it's easier if I just block stupid ppl. Hardware threads are a mess and full of bs informations.
demented waffle
Member
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 to retail at $599 - VideoCardz.com
GeForce RTX 4070 MSRP to match RTX 3070 Ti The RTX 4070 to be $200 cheaper than the RTX 4070 Ti. The company has reportedly settled on RTX 4070 non-Ti SKU price at $599. This information was confirmed during a press briefing, which usually takes place before each launch. Reviewers are now...videocardz.com
I hope it's true...
Hmm, at least it keeps the same bus and ram at the 4070ti. I expected a price increase over the 3070. If it's 3080 territory and FE's are actually available, not bad, maybe even decent. If FE's are unicorns otoh...
Reallink
Member
You do realize I posted a video with similar gains when you yourself said and I quote "barely" has the same performance as the high end 3x series which was false and you've proven wrong. Are you a fucking idiot? Dont answer that, it's rhetorical. Funny how you also avoided the DLSS3 discussion
I'm genuinely curious what your definition of barely is. These are nearly 3 year old cards you're comparing to and you're arguing 10% doesn't qualify as barely. I ignored DLSS3 because there aren't anywhere near enough supporting games for it to matter. Much like the cadence of DLSS 1.0, you'll likely be looking at 5XXX or 6XXX cards before it's somewhat regularly supported, assuming AMDs open source FSR version doesn't effectively obsolete it in terms of developer uptake. The just released RE4 doesn't even support DLSS2 for example, opting for the platform agnostic FSR instead.
DaGwaphics
Member
Looking at some of the AIB leaks it looks like there will be lower power 2 slot variants of this, maybe those will hang closer to MSRP. And then the usual shoe-box OC designs will move the price up.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
this is why you take breaks from GAF. stay here too long and you go crazyYou do realize I posted a video with similar gains when you yourself said and I quote "barely" has the same performance as the high end 3x series which was false and you've proven wrong. Are you a fucking idiot? Dont answer that, it's rhetorical. Funny how you also avoided the DLSS3 discussion
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It wouldn’t surprise me. Nvidia’s leaving the mid/low bulk of PC gamers market to whomever wants it.
I think it’s going to be Intel in the long run.
DaGwaphics
Member
The 4050 appears to only have a 96bit bus, and judging from laptop positioning, won't even match a 12GB 3060. I'd hope they wouldn't push the price up much for that one. LOL
demented waffle
Member
So a 6 gb buffer... Oof, that's rough even at 1080p.
Raphael
Member
It will probably be 499 but why go for it with 8GB of ram and risk the card struggling in 2 years. AMD should have a much better offering for 500, even if its a 6-series card.
Crayon
Member
Not much hope for amd, here. They could have released a 7900XT for $900 and a 7900 for $750 but noooooooo. Had to dick around chasing nvidia pricing. Now their current marked-down 7900XT just trades dollar for dollar blows with the overpriced 4070ti. So stupid.
And wtf is taking so long for the 7600 and 7700? Is something wrong? Will the mono die be great and reveal some engineering failure of the mcm N31? Are they going to offer 10 or 12gb in the 7600's? Are they really going to have apu's that take a step towards becoming the new low end? So many questions.
demented waffle
Member
Not much hope for amd, here. They could have released a 7900XT for $900 and a 7900 for $750 but noooooooo. Had to dick around chasing nvidia pricing. Now their current marked-down 7900XT just trades dollar for dollar blows with the overpriced 4070ti. So stupid.
And wtf is taking so long for the 7600 and 7700? Is something wrong? Will the mono die be great and reveal some engineering failure of the mcm N31? Are they going to offer 10 or 12gb in the 7600's? Are they really going to have apu's that take a step towards becoming the new low end? So many questions.
TBF, AMD had a glut of 6xxx card(as did Nvidia in their 3xxx cards)s. They've actually been rebating(unless their AIB partners are taking losses) cards. 6xxx cards from them are pretty cheap now. I think I read that the mid-grade 7xxx cards are to be announced this summer.
Roman Empire
Member
Not worth the pricetag. Don't fall for it guys.
Poltz
Member
That 7800/7800XT pricing will be interesting to watch. Hopefully it's 16GB VRAM.
Not much hope for amd, here. They could have released a 7900XT for $900 and a 7900 for $750 but noooooooo. Had to dick around chasing nvidia pricing. Now their current marked-down 7900XT just trades dollar for dollar blows with the overpriced 4070ti. So stupid.
And wtf is taking so long for the 7600 and 7700? Is something wrong? Will the mono die be great and reveal some engineering failure of the mcm N31? Are they going to offer 10 or 12gb in the 7600's? Are they really going to have apu's that take a step towards becoming the new low end? So many questions.
Reallink
Member
The 4070 (non Ti) has 35% more cores than the 4060Ti and nearly double the memory bandwidth. It'll be lucky to match the base 3070, a $499 part thats two and a half years old. If that's your sweetspot I've got a bridge to sell you.
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Crayon
Member
The markdown for the 6000's back before the holidays was nice. I fealt like it just brought the prices to what they should have been in the first place. When that happenned, I waited a bit till that hit the used market and I did end up buying an rdna2 card and I'm quite happy with it!
phant0m
Member
Yup, should be $399.
PC Gaming a real mess these days between outrageous hardware prices and shitty ports.
Of course it’s always been more $ but I genuinely think that dropping $500 on PS5/XSX will actually be an overall better experience today. No shader bullshit, stuttering, or asshole launchers. Plus HDR that actually works
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asdasdasdbb
Member
3070's MSRP is $499. $599 is more or less in line with inflation (nfation?) How many cards are sold at $599 might be the issue.
TSMC aint cheap yo.
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Nocturno999
Member
It seems this generation of cards will be a transition from crypto/shortage insanity to normality (5000 series). I'm going to hold my 2070 Super a bit longer.
These cards need more VRAM.
These cards need more VRAM.
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Infested Goblin
Member
Imagine people who bought a fucking 1080 ti 8 years ago for 599$ and they still can play games on high settings 60 fps now. Todays gpu market is a joke
hououinkyouma00
Member
The iPhone SE exists But I get what you’re saying.
Coloress_Kafka
Member
So like, is Nvidia just being cheap on the amount of VRAM because they expect everyone to use DLSS??
Indeed. All of the NVIDIA cards are priced one tier higher than they should be.
DaGwaphics
Member
That's why I think they will leave the price alone on this one or potentially even lower it in comparison to the 3050. 4050 might be them taking a shot at getting the 1050/1650 buyers to jump on something new, maybe this is only $199 or $249 GPU (actual price). I can't see how they could sell a 6GB card otherwise.
What you might see is a bit more price separation between models. Especially the 4060ti and 4060.
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CobraAB
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winjer
Gold Member
RGT: Radeon RX 7800 XT, RX 7700 XT, RX 7600 XT and RX 7600 GPU Performance Targets And Specs
As AMD gets ready to roll out the rest of the Radeon RX 7000 family, RGT has revealed the specifications and the tentative performance targets in a video. While RGT has been accurate in the past, we will still mark this post as a rumor until benchmarks get leaked. While AMD has already launched...
wccftech.com
Irobot82
Member
I bought my 1080 for like $500 and I'm still using it in 1440p, mostly medium now. Get 45-60. FSR helps.
It hurts.
RGT: Radeon RX 7800 XT, RX 7700 XT, RX 7600 XT and RX 7600 GPU Performance Targets And Specs
As AMD gets ready to roll out the rest of the Radeon RX 7000 family, RGT has revealed the specifications and the tentative performance targets in a video. While RGT has been accurate in the past, we will still mark this post as a rumor until benchmarks get leaked. While AMD has already launched...
AMD still ain't said anything official yet. No announcement, no release date....nada........
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winjer
Gold Member
Neither did nvidia. All this about the 4070, 4060ti, 4060 and 4050 are all leaks.
Thebonehead
Banned
Fucking Idiots paying stupid money for GPUs.
/looks at his 4090 with pride
/looks at his 4090 with pride
PhoenixTank
Member
NAND & DDR4. 5 to a lesser degree.
6 years - March 2017, and $699 RRP IIRC but otherwise describes me. Unfortunately either the drivers have a bug or my 1080 Ti is showing very early signs it is going to die, which will result in 0 fps. Thoughts, likes and prayers appreciated.
Back to work for me. Good luck with this shitshow, PCGAF.
Elder Legend
Banned
GPU experts - how much better is this than a 3070 or a 1660 ti? I am stuck with a 1660ti. Is it just worth waiting for a 4070 at this point? I almost gotten a 3090.
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Nocturno999
Member
Just wait for Gamer Nexus and Hardware unboxed benchmarks to see real, precise comparisons.
Elder Legend
Banned
I am too lazy to do that to be honest and I don't really have the time to watch youtube tech stuff.
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Fake
Member
Is Nvidia after all.
amigastar
Member
I would wait for the 4070. I wouldn't go with 3090 because of energy consumption but YMMV
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Unknown Soldier
Member
With the way console ports are going, minimum VRAM on PC GPU's needs to be at 16 GB
Elder Legend
Banned
Is a 1000 watt power supply enough? I don't remember what mine is, and I don't think there is a way too see unless I open up the case?
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