AncientOrigin
Member
The 7900xtx will be the way better card and value.The 4080 will have a tiny RT advantage maybe
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RTX 4080 review thread
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The 7900xtx will be the way better card and value.The 4080 will have a tiny RT advantage maybe
Celcius
°Temp. member
This could have been such a great product. The low temps, low noise, low power consumption, and performance are impressive. But the price totally kills the product. And who is going to buy an AIB 4080 for the same price as a FE 4090? Sigh. I hope the 7900 series cards can beat this in rasterized performance.
twilo99
Member
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Don't be fooled by these out-of-stock announcements, though. We have no idea how many GPUs there were in the store.Time to retire the old 1080ti…
…sometime next year…
This graphics card is in a very odd place in Europe. Who the hell has 1700€ to spend on a GPU without going all the way to 2000€ for the 4090?
newtypepilot
Member
lol awful price but we all know the green fanboys will still buy it.
Midn1ght
Member
Well, can't speak for every countries in Europe but where I'm at, the 4090 is minimum 2300€ and generally goes for 2500-2800€.
To make things even better, the 3080's and 3090's aren't dropping in price by much, still cost between 1000 and 1400 for them.
It's ridiculous, no choice but wait and see what happen in the next 6 months. I never owned an AMD card before but it might be time to finally jump ship.
Fredrik
Member
I bought it because it was the first one out. But I agree, when things are already stupidly expensive I’m not holding back at the highend segment, if I would try to save money I would go way lower and build the whole PC that way.
TheBreezyBB
Member
Anyone buying these cards is just helping in building a better economy for everyone.
In the name of the non existent middle class we thank you.
In the name of the non existent middle class we thank you.
twilo99
Member
I don't know about tiny but the xtx should have good enough RT performance for most people.
AMD claims ~1.5x over the 6950XT so in theory xtx shouldn't have a problem with the 4080 and it will be ~$200 cheaper.
adamosmaki
Member
Same where i am and ever worse. 1500euros for rtx 3080 but i usually order from Germany and Amd GPUs are not that overpriced. You can get a 6800 for 550-560. I wasnt planning to upgrade from my 5600xt but a 400euros 6700xt it is tempting
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
4080fe here in Poland is 1550usd=7000pln(suggested lowest msrp but not possible since nvidia does not sell their fe lol) compared to 730usd=3300pln nvidia asked for 3080fe. That is more than double the fucking price !!!
Granted, I was the only Polish person who managed to grab 3080fe for it's msrp price. The nvidia PL store stock lasted for 1 minute and it was the first and last time nvidia fucking sold FE cards here..... what a joke.
... So that's double the price for 30-50% fps increase... we get 0.5:1 performance ratio lol.
Seriously. This is 50% worse deal than 3080 was.
4080fe here in Poland is 1550usd=7000pln(suggested lowest msrp but not possible since nvidia does not sell their fe lol) compared to 730usd=3300pln nvidia asked for 3080fe. That is more than double the fucking price !!!
Granted, I was the only Polish person who managed to grab 3080fe for it's msrp price. The nvidia PL store stock lasted for 1 minute and it was the first and last time nvidia fucking sold FE cards here..... what a joke.
... So that's double the price for 30-50% fps increase... we get 0.5:1 performance ratio lol.
Seriously. This is 50% worse deal than 3080 was.
Midn1ght
Member
Insane, but I feel they're successfully re-writing the rules when it comes to GPU pricing.
We are now cheering for AMD 999.99€ card. Give it another round and we'll be cheering at whoever price their cards at "only" 1200€. Also, 999.9€ msrp will put it at 1200€-1300€ here in EU.
Where's that gonna put the mid range cards this gen? 700-800€ msrp for a 4060 (ti) level card. Brilliant!
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
yep. That's how they get us... and I feel everyone is doing that recently. Everything is so damn expensive.
Same with TVs.
48" lg c1 was 5500pln last year, lg c2 48" is 7000pln this year. Both launch prices... WTF
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cinnamonandgravy
Member
when you start an RPG, do you also use cheat codes to max out all your stats "because you can"?
Hot5pur
Member
Just a reminder to everyone that this is 100% intentional to move all the 30xx stock.
The prices are ridiculous though. AMD with their 4080 competitor at $1K isn't much better either.
There are a lot of people that can buy these cards that just won't do it on principle. Like no, the High > Very high setting transition is not worth nearly doubling the price of the GPU. Most of the time the difference is negligeable. Competitive games that you need high FPS for are usually not very GPU intensive.
Maybe there is a market for 4K high FPS gaming, and that's what these cards are for, also raytracing (which I'm convinced is mostly a gimmick for now, until games go raytracing exclusive).
The sad thing is that if demand is high enough this will give AMD and Nvidia to keep these prices long term and increase the cost of the entire budget/value lines as well.
The prices are ridiculous though. AMD with their 4080 competitor at $1K isn't much better either.
There are a lot of people that can buy these cards that just won't do it on principle. Like no, the High > Very high setting transition is not worth nearly doubling the price of the GPU. Most of the time the difference is negligeable. Competitive games that you need high FPS for are usually not very GPU intensive.
Maybe there is a market for 4K high FPS gaming, and that's what these cards are for, also raytracing (which I'm convinced is mostly a gimmick for now, until games go raytracing exclusive).
The sad thing is that if demand is high enough this will give AMD and Nvidia to keep these prices long term and increase the cost of the entire budget/value lines as well.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I do sometimes for cash or something easy. I'm a parent who has less time these days. Tactics Ogre is the last game that came to mind. Cash and maybe a 5 xp boost until I found out about the cap. The Deck helps a lot.
Leonidas
Member
Going by AMDs recently shared numbers, 4080 should easily beat the 7900 XTX in demanding RT games like Dying Light 2 and CyberPunk 2077.
The weak RT performance is probably the reason AMD priced those cards the way they did.
Even the 4070/4070 Ti might be better at RT than the 7900 XT/XTX.
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AncientOrigin
Member
Let’s wait and see.I think even if the 4080 would be better in RT the RT of the 7900s should be more than enough for great RT experiences and performances
I'm one of the shrinking crowd of people who are still able to afford PC gaming. But all Nvidia gets from me is a big fat "f*uck you" and not a penny. 1. the pricing strategy is based on cheapest upselling marketing (trainee level). 2. nvidia is trying to push the players for RTX towards their poor streaming offer. 3. I already had the f*ck you? I'm looking forward to my RX 7900 XTX. This pricing reflects the ray tracing in Jensen's ass.
//DEVIL//
Member
1- I think it’s safe to start forgetting about low price video cards or consoles from now on. You can thank Taiwan and inflation around the world where Sony increased the price for a console 2 years in.
2- Aside from ray tracing, if Amd charts are not BS, the 6900xtx is close to the 4090 for 600$ cheaper. From the look of it, it’s way more closer to the 4090 that it’s to 4080
Leonidas
Member
Demanding RT games need all the performance they can get. If they end up 20-30% behind the RTX 4080 it's not a good look. More demanding RT games are coming out every year.
When I upgrade my GPU it will be based on RT performance since my current card can run everything I want in raster well enough already...
Ellery
Member
I gotta admit I made a mistake from some months ago when I said I don't think the 4080 (pre reveal when the buzz was still on the $699 RTX 3080) would be more than $999.
I was dead wrong and this weaksauce $1200 is indeed shamefully called a 4080.
We all know why they are doing it and it is everything but offering a good product in itself. It is a distraction to make the old 30 stock and 4090 look better.
Absolutely no interest from me in that card. In europe it is 1469€ lol. I can buy like 1469 Baguettes for that and still have some money left for coke.
I was dead wrong and this weaksauce $1200 is indeed shamefully called a 4080.
We all know why they are doing it and it is everything but offering a good product in itself. It is a distraction to make the old 30 stock and 4090 look better.
Absolutely no interest from me in that card. In europe it is 1469€ lol. I can buy like 1469 Baguettes for that and still have some money left for coke.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Shameful stuff from Nvidia. According to techpowerup, 4080 is only 42% better in performance than the 3080 while the 3080 was on average 63% better than the 2080.
www.techpowerup.com
For $500 more than the 3080 and 2080 launched at. Absolutely disgusting. It's priced like a 2080Ti and a 3080 Ti. The only problem is that the 3080Ti was 83% more powerful than the 2080. So double the performance upgrade Nvidia is offering with the 4080.
4080 is basically a 4070 Ti that should be being sold for $600 max. Hope it flops. Shameful.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Specs
NVIDIA TU104, 1710 MHz, 2944 Cores, 184 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 256 bit
For $500 more than the 3080 and 2080 launched at. Absolutely disgusting. It's priced like a 2080Ti and a 3080 Ti. The only problem is that the 3080Ti was 83% more powerful than the 2080. So double the performance upgrade Nvidia is offering with the 4080.
4080 is basically a 4070 Ti that should be being sold for $600 max. Hope it flops. Shameful.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
People would probably be happier with the same price as a 3080 at launch. Even 799 would have been more acceptable price wise but the 1199 is high.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Great card, shit price. Pass.
Nice to have, but spend your money on this only if you need it for work.
Nice to have, but spend your money on this only if you need it for work.
Leonidas
Member
With inflation, TSMC 4N increased production costs and 60% increase in RAM, plus loads of 30-series stock remaining; anyone expecting the launch 3080 price was out of their mind.
$1200 is still too much though...
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Let's not get too crazy here.
GHG
Member
I'll be stunned if they don't slash the price of this thing going into the new year provided AMD's new cards perform in line with what they've told us to expect.
Tiny market for products like that in a recession. AMD will also take their time in releasing their lower end cards, there's no rush.
Tiny market for products like that in a recession. AMD will also take their time in releasing their lower end cards, there's no rush.
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I Master l
Banned
Terrible power connector, unnecessarily large, overpriced .. Nvidia fucked up this card
Guilhermegrg
Member
Well...bye bye PC gaming quite possibly for ever
Buggy Loop
Member
Techpowerup is again at odds with everyone else. That 5800x CPU has got to go in their setup
Celcius
°Temp. member
You’d rather quit PC gaming than give AMD a try?
Granted my last Radeon was an ATI Radeon x800 Pro but the drivers were great and the card was awesome.
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Crayon
Member
This 4080 is expensive but it is going to beat modern games to a pulp. Kinda overkill. Right now, you can get pretty good stuff for $200-$500. If pc gaming means having a "flagship" gpu then yeah it might be too expensive. There's no rule that says a pc has to wipe the floor with consoles.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Dunno seems like a great time to buy last gen gpu at a major discount…
Never a better time to jump in!
Sanepar
Member
Most recent relevant releases don't have RT and are gorgeous.
Besides Metro Exodus all RT implementations are bad. Reflections on puddles, metals and windows that your eye can't catch on movement.
Fuck fade RT give me raster that's what matters.
Buggy Loop
Member
This is cute
Your hobby of PC gaming depended on a specific company and series of card?
Rbk_3
Member
PhoenixTank
Member
Sane Nvidia game plan: Some time after Radeon 7000 series release, drop 4080 price, release 4080 Ti based on AD102.
Insane: Wait for Ampere to sell out and do nothing.
Which timeline do you think we're in, GAF?
Insane: Wait for Ampere to sell out and do nothing.
Which timeline do you think we're in, GAF?
Hawking Radiation
Member
If the competition can bring out a product that's cheaper and get similar performance then I'll go with that.
