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God of War Sequel and Gran Turismo 7 are Cross Generation Titles
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JLB
Banned
Such games were GoW, GT and Horizon. And you know it. Feel free to keep going on circles if you want anyways.
GuinGuin
Banned
Nice try rewriting history. Ratchet and Clank is the second best selling Playstation franchise of all time.
Little Chicken
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The GT7 vs Forza Motorsport thread will be interesting.
ManaByte
Member
The only platformer franchise that is a system seller in the 21st Century is Mario.
Bladed Thesis
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Kazza
Member
Since I'm 90% sure I know whose troll account you are, I also know that you know what I'm talking about, and that it has nothing to do with teraflops. Try harder
GuinGuin
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Even a BC non-native game like that the PS5 outperforms the series S. PS5 runs at 60fps in quality mode. Series S runs at 30fps.
Mr Moose
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They would write 10 page essays.
GuinGuin
Banned
Keep telling yourself that. Is Mario Kart the only racer that is a system seller too?
ManaByte
Member
Keep telling yourself that. Is Mario Kart the only racer that is a system seller too?
Are you seriously trying to compare Mario Kart to Forza or GT? That's disingenuous even for you Vawn.
Ratchet and Clank also has like 16 entries in the franchise, so that would make sense.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Thank god he ain’t here for this thread, be huge posts about how it is good for ps5 sharing games with PS4
GuinGuin
Banned
Why isn't it? More people get to play the games. Isn't that what people love to say about PC ports?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Isn't there like 20 of them? Might have something to do with it lol
GuinGuin
Banned
Much loved and storied franchise. They kept making them because people kept buying them. That's what they call a "system seller."
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Because as been posted numerous times, Cerny himself said that games designed for the SSD wouldn’t be able to run on old hardware. Game design would change but because they are cross gen it’s holding back the extra feature he talked about
FunkMiller
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Some posts were interesting to read but there was just to much waffle for a simple point and everything was anti XboxYes indeed. It’s a good job he’s not here.
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ManaByte
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Much loved and storied franchise. They kept making them because people kept buying them. That's what they call a "system seller."
FunkMiller
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Ratchet & Clank games are nice and everything, but nobody thinks of that franchise when they think about the triple AAA PlayStation first party system sellers.
God Of War is obviously a different story.
God Of War is obviously a different story.
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Bladed Thesis
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Great games but I agree.
It's an odd stance to take that we only saw when it became obvious (more and more so now as time goes by and we get more announcements) that R&C is the only nextgen title of significance that we're getting from Sony this year. Weird how that goes.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
only because there are like 15 million different ratchet games on playstation. ;p
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iHaunter
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Literally why?
Marvel
could never
Word.
CeeJay
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Yeah sure but perf mode is 1440/60 on XSS and PS5, 120 on XSX.
But we are going off on a tangent a bit, I was just merely pointing out how XSS is a lot more capable than some would have you believe and regardless of its pure TFs its still current gen architecture. You can't argue that XSS is a bad idea and holding back devs while in the next breath say that the PS5 can't do anything the PS4 isn't also capable of doing.
StreetsofBeige
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There's still a possibility of GT8 being fully PS5 only. But that assumes Sony will launch another GT game during the PS5 era. If they do, GT8 would probably be around 2026 or 2027.
FunkMiller
Member
So cross gen with Ps6 then?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
its native 4k 60 fps with ray tracing right now. which means they can hit 120 fps at 1440p with ray tracing and 240 fps at 1080p without ray tracing.
If anything, this game being last gen pretty much confirms you are going to get basically GT Sports at really high framerates or ray tracing.
No one is doing advanced next gen physics, destruction, ray tracing and weather simulations at 120 fps on a 10 tflops console next gen, let alone at 240 fps.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
again, these games have been in development for years, well before final PS5 dev kits existed. Scope is much larger than ratchet. And these games simply sell a lot more. You can risk ratchet, DS, or returnal having less sales. Not something like horizon with 10+M in sales
and it’s not like god of war or horizon aren’t significantly upgraded by next gen. horizon is better arguably the best looking next gen game revealed
Markio128
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The only one that surprises me is GT7 because we were led to believe that it would be PS5 exclusive. I think Sony are fearful that they can’t manufacture enough PS5s to warrant releasing their biggest franchises on PS5 only. It’s a sensible move business wise, but they do need to set expectations correctly, even if gamers do tend to take it too far.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
its not like once they made the game it will only be sold for a limited time is it? I can't see not being enough ps5's sold yet as an excuse for cross gen
FunkMiller
Member
The issue isn’t really that the games are cross gen (though they will suffer for having to run on very old hardware) it’s more that Sony weren’t up front and transparent about it, because they were trying to shift Ps5s. Shady shit.
Markio128
Member
Unfortunately, there is more to it than that. I’m quite certain Sony had set their expected sales targets prior to covid19 turning everything to shit. The fact is, even if you wanted to buy a PS5 to play the latest games, you can’t and the shortage does not seem to be ending anytime soon.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Mira amazing the amount of spin being put on it in this thread. I agree with you totally, if you go to the god of war thread there was endless posts about it being ps5 exclusive because of the SSD and what not
it isn’t a bad thing being cross gen but it’s far from how they advertised in generations
IntentionalPun
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Confused why you think this news will effect their ability to create a 240FPS mode.
In fact.... that indicated a heavy focus on a scalable engine tech... which means they probably always had it running on PS4.
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ManaByte
Member
I don't think the PS5 even supports that though.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
how many do you expect GT to sell?
also when Xbox games aka halo was affected by Covid the masses of Sony fans in here had a great time. Yeah Covid has screwed over but doing cross gen games even more labour intensive unless they doing crappy upgrades to ps5 version
James Sawyer Ford
Member
and I agree they should have been more transparent
but it’s false to say they aren’t delivering next gen exclusives on games where it makes sense from a production and business case
IntentionalPun
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You can run a game at 240 FPS even on a 60FPS device and get a benefit in control responsiveness.
ZywyPL
Banned
True, not only all Sony's studios are known to take their time, but PD and SSM are the ones who have the longest development times of them all. While I'm rather confident in SSM, they already went throught the process of reinvent ing the franchise, so all later installments should take less time than GoW4, but it's really hard for me to imagine PD delivering another GT on PS5 after GT7. And with PS4 being the base once again, I''m afraid it'll be just another outdated GT with pretty Graphics on top...
GuinGuin
Banned
There are lots of PS4 racing games that do all that.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
I honestly think there will be 2 GT games on ps5 if am honest. Once they have the first out they will fine tune there tech and get about her out befor the end of ps5s lifespan
phil_t98
#SonyToo
What PS4 racing game does raytracing?
purvispisgah
Member
I'm long past buying consoles in the launch window, but knowing that GoW will be on PS4 as well, I wonder if I'll ever get a PS5. That was the only game reveal that made me consider it.
GuinGuin
Banned
I was referring to destruction and weather. Ray tracing can obviously be added for the PS5 version like many other cross gen games have done.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Uuuugh.... what are you even talking about?
Why are you trying to make a false equivalency between a cross-gen game and a BC game?
Or is it that you can't grasp that there's a difference between them at all?
sncvsrtoip
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