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The Last of Us 2's graphics (no spoilers)

Turk1993

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I thought UC4 looked average in its first 4h-5h when i played it, but boy when they go to that tropic place where they search for something (spoilers) shit just changed. Its like first they couldn't get the use full power of the PS4 and the more they used it the more the graphics improved. I don't think its the best looking game ever but the game is definitely top tier and the animations are one of the best. For a console game i was very impressed, even if it was limited in some ways. so if they improve TLOU2 even a litlle from UC4 the game is gonna look incredible again. Just a reminder what ND pulled of early this gen
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I haven't seen any good quality footage from the leaks, the stuff I have seen was low quality and made the game look bad so I decided to stop watching and just wait for the game because I know in reality it looks much better than what I'm seeing from these low quality videos.
 

Matsuchezz

Member
I just saw the video and the quality is there, I just turned the volume down to not be spoiled anything, the original game was big, since i mostly do not need to rush through games just for the sake of seeing the end of it, i certainly will enjoy the trip admiring the scenery .
My biggest issue with the game is the load times. I hope we see an upgrade in loading times when the game is run on PS5. I can buy PS5 day one, just to play this game with no load times, probably we wont see a graphic update ont the game when it is running on PS5 day one, but if they can only get rid of load times when i play this game on PS5, I will be happy.

Those UC4 pics are beautiful.
 
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mortal

Gold Member
Naughty Dog are certainly one of the best in the industry, although their pursuit of high fidelity & polished presentation looks to be taking a severe toll on their developers.

I've no doubt their PS5 output will be astounding, but they need to get their shit together as far as employee treatment and work environment is concerned.
Otherwise they'll just ending up bleeding most of that amazing talent away.
 
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The Unforeseen

Neo Member
Really wasn't blown away from what i've seen thus far. I'm sure there is technically a lot going on, but environmentally it all looks a bit pastel-y and washed-out. I can't quite put my finger on it, if it's the lighting or just the art style or the colour palette, but something just isn't doing it for me graphically. It reminds me of exactly what it is, a video game, the kind of which i've seen many times before this gen. Though again, I'm sure technically it's impressive of many levels, and when I have it in front of my very eyes in real time I may change my mind.
 

Hobbygaming

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Naughty Dog are certainly one of the best in the industry, although their pursuit of high fidelity & polished presentation looks to be taking a severe toll on their developers.

I've no doubt their PS5 output will be astounding, but they need to get their shit together as far as employee treatment and work environment is concerned.
Otherwise they'll just ending up bleeding most of that amazing talent away.
There are some QOL improvements coming with next gen game development and apparently PS5 is the easiest PS console to develop for yet so maybe things will be a little better for studios

Raytracing will help too
 

Magik85

Member
Yes its pretty good, or even very good.
But its still nothing like cutscenes.
Aspecially shading and animations.
Look, im not saying U4 doesnt look good.
Im just saying cutscenes arent very accurate way to show real game graphics.
Not only in UC4/TLOU2.
Also games like Halo5 have some sick character models in cutscenes. But then again....those are just cutscenes.
 

sendit

Member
Yes its pretty good, or even very good.
But its still nothing like cutscenes.
Aspecially shading and animations.
Look, im not saying U4 doesnt look good.
Im just saying cutscenes arent very accurate way to show real game graphics.
Not only in UC4/TLOU2.
Also games like Halo5 have some sick character models in cutscenes. But then again....those are just cutscenes.

No one is arguing against that. You stated the shots posted where not in-game (meaning you where most likely impressed), people stated otherwise and continued to show you more examples.
 
Without spoiling anything, does it have anything at all to do with the leaked 4chan story? Any similarity at all? Put yes or no it in spoiler tags. Please don't talk about details as I haven't read the 4chan story either I just know it was woke as heck.

I'm afraid I don't know what exactly the details of the 4chan leaks are versus what I saw.

All I know is even putting the controversy over "SJWs" aside the story makes some really dumb decisions that just might piss off even left leaning fans.
 

Hobbygaming

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Yes its pretty good, or even very good.
But its still nothing like cutscenes.
Aspecially shading and animations.
Look, im not saying U4 doesnt look good.
Im just saying cutscenes arent very accurate way to show real game graphics.
Not only in UC4/TLOU2.
Also games like Halo5 have some sick character models in cutscenes. But then again....those are just cutscenes.
UC4's real gameplay shots look amazing too
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Darth

Member
Graphics, art style and gameplay look amazing. I hope they don't pull and Uncharted 4 though and give us such a wonderful engine and then give is very little actual gameplay.
 

jonnyp

Member
The forest footage was amazing, but when Ellie entered the house the graphics suddenly weren't that impressive.

From a technical point of view, RDR2 on X it's probably still going to be the best graphical game made on consoles. I doubt TLOU2 has even a fifth of the size of RDR2 and not even a 10th of the NPC. And resolution wise, it’s not going to be 4K.

RDR2 took 7 years and thousands of people to develop though.

RDR2 is amazing looking though and I agree that it technically is the most impressive game so far this generation.
 

Hobbygaming

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Graphics, art style and gameplay look amazing. I hope they don't pull and Uncharted 4 though and give us such a wonderful engine and then give is very little actual gameplay.
I never get this. UC4 has a ton of gameplay. I guess you could say more combat but I thought it was very well done
 

Bumblebeetuna

Gold Member
It will look great but I didn’t see anything that surpassed RDR2, which is an incredible accomplishment considering RDR2 is a gigantic open world game and LoU2 will be extremely linear. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

I think whoever made the comparison to Plague was on the right track. Same type of game, both look amazing.
 
you say there are better character models than star citizen on pc?
I don't recall mentioning Star Citizen, can you point me to where I mentioned that game?
Cmon give us some character models that are better then? You claimed uncharted isn’t all that lol so what’s a good character model on consoles??

Or you just here to play down Sony exclusives?
Hellblade has much better character models. Nothing against Sony, just tired of the constant circle jerk. Ill actually be playing many Sony games on my PC this year, so there's that.
 

Darth

Member
I never get this. UC4 has a ton of gameplay. I guess you could say more combat but I thought it was very well done

Way less gameplay to story ratio than 1 and 2. 2 was about perfect for the ratio for my tastes. There simply are far less encounters in Uncharted 4. It does have some amazing sections and set pieces just not as many overall.
 
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Just played U4 for the first time, free with PS Plus, and it’s unreal how good that game looks. Just unreal. I don’t know if it’s best graphics ever but it’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. That game is 10/10 if I ever saw one and I’m the fiercest critique of current ND situation you can find.

Based on what we saw so far TLOU II doesn’t match that. Mind you, everything is dark and gritty but faces look worse and that one violent scene has very bad punching animation. Like really bad.
 
Incorrect.
Οf course they are.

Jump to PS master race next gen. Thank me later :
UC4's real gameplay shots look amazing too
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All those are form a 1.8 TF platform actually.
Make the big step or prepare to cry with the first PS5 exclusives :p

Τhe couple of ps exclusives they gave you it is just a bait.

From a credible dev of the other forum:
''No Sony FP game is going to limit their use of the SSD to make future porting to the PC easier. If a game won’t work on PC, it just won’t be ported. ''
 
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I don't recall mentioning Star Citizen, can you point me to where I mentioned that game?
I said uncharted cutscene models were superior to star citizen character creator models and that star citizen was probably the top pc game in terms of character models.

You replied that was incorrect.

Now you're mentioning hellblade, I imagine you think hellblade models look better than star citizen models?
 
I said uncharted cutscene models were superior to star citizen character creator models and that star citizen was probably the top pc game in terms of character models.

You replied that was incorrect.

Now you're mentioning hellblade, I imagine you think hellblade models look better than star citizen models?
Again, I am not sure why you are bringing up Stat Citizen character models. You claimed they are the best pc character models, not me. Hellblade character models look superior to Uncharted character models. I compared a game that is on PS4 to a game that is on PS4. Not sure why you are bringing a PC game into this?
 
Again, I am not sure why you are bringing up Stat Citizen character models. You claimed they are the best pc character models, not me. Hellblade character models look superior to Uncharted character models. I compared a game that is on PS4 to a game that is on PS4. Not sure why you are bringing a PC game into this?
IT depends on what you mean. Gameplay models of hellblade at least judging from most screenshots I've seen don't look better.

There are a few screens floating around of hellblade that may look better, but they're likely CG. As these screens look better than even next gen hellblade 2.
 
IT depends on what you mean. Gameplay models of hellblade at least judging from most screenshots I've seen don't look better.

There are a few screens floating around of hellblade that may look better, but they're likely CG. As these screens look better than even next gen hellblade 2.
Have you seen gameplay of Hellblade 2? Highly doubt it. You could simply look up screen shots or gameplay instead of arguing about something you have barely seen, more or less even played... Just an idea....
 
Have you seen gameplay of Hellblade 2? Highly doubt it. You could simply look up screen shots or gameplay instead of arguing about something you have barely seen, more or less even played... Just an idea....
searched for screens of hellblade 1, most seem less impressive. A few look more impressive than the trailer for hellblade 2, so I assume those are concept art or cg.
 
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Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
GoT looks better. Loving what Sucker Punch has created. Too bad the game doesn't have the same kind of hype.
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
Hellblade 2 will look better than Uncharted 4 of course. It will be a next gen title. Even we haven't seen gameplay.

Mmmmmm if it's like part one thts not saying much. Restricture world with tons of invisible barriers and repetitive combat. Thts why I didn't bother to finish it.
 
Mmmmmm if it's like part one thts not saying much. Restricture world with tons of invisible barriers and repetitive combat. Thts why I didn't bother to finish it.
Ok, you have a point, but again I think it's not fair to compare next gen with current gen. Every AAA next gen game probably will look better than Uncharted 4 in most areas. But today U4 looks insane. And it is 4-5 years old.

Can't wait for the TLOUS
 
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LED Guy?

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The facial animations are impressive, but frankly, there’s nothing here that even remotely makes me wonder how they pulled it off. It’s a small step up from Uncharted 4, but it’s nothing like the gap from Uncharted 1 to the original The Last of Us on PS3.
RDR2 is still the most technologically graphically impressive game I’ve ever seen. This doesn’t touch it. TLOU2 is a good looking game, no question, but ND clearly focused their efforts on real-time rendering their performance mo-cap sessions. It’s their most impressive work - but, everything else, from the lighting to the vegetation, is about par. If this shipped before RDR2, or even FFVIIR, I’d be more impressed.
Denying after that gameplay does make you look a little bit biased against the game, because that forest puts any forest in RDR 2 to shame graphically, you'll see when Digital Foundry talks about it.
 

LED Guy?

Banned
Yes its pretty good, or even very good.
But its still nothing like cutscenes.
Aspecially shading and animations.
Look, im not saying U4 doesnt look good.
Im just saying cutscenes arent very accurate way to show real game graphics.
Not only in UC4/TLOU2.
Also games like Halo5 have some sick character models in cutscenes. But then again....those are just cutscenes.
The cutscenes in Uncharted 4 are all real-time in-game they use the same model that is in gameplay, it's just the way the lighting sometimes can make or brake the model at times, this naturally happens when you're dealing with rasterization in games, ray traced lighting can fix those issues, even Digital Foundry's Alex Battaglia have talked about it a couple of months ago in ResetEra's Control RTX thread Digital Foundry analysis, in cutscenes, developers and lighting artists can place lights by-hand around characters and scenes whatever they see fit to make their models look the best they can, oh and make sure you go read his comments.

Uncharted 4 uses the same models all in game and in cutscenes, no differences, just lighting differences, that is all.
 
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Keihart

Member
GoT looks better. Loving what Sucker Punch has created. Too bad the game doesn't have the same kind of hype.
We have barely see any systems breakdown, a full gameplay demo showing what it's possible in the game and what not. Only a brief gameplay scene with a little combat that seems to be in the begining of the game.
I love SP's games, but it's hard to get hyped when i don't even know what i'll be playing, all the details about it are pretty general. Like the fact that it will have some kind of skill tree, some kind of infamous karma system and that there is no mini map but you have to navigate the world through landmarks. All that sounds cool, but they haven't made a trailer to get us hyped about that.

I hope GoT is good and has fun engaging traversal/movement. Sly and Infamous have some really fun movement options.
 

Spokker

Member
God I wish we had the gameplay and design sensibilities of the 90s with the graphics of today.

I look at all these woke ass games and they do look good visually.
 

Tripolygon

Banned
Stolen from Hellblade screenshots thread. Apart from the Lazy eye, impressive character model.

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Another impressive character model
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Impressive character model but not as impressive as the first 2.
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RDR2 is no doubt one of if not the most technically accomplished game and graphically impressive but to me its a case of the sum of the parts rather than the individual parts that make it impressive. And that's no small feat. It consistently looks amazing when taken as a whole and in my opinion consistently looks good from every angle compared to Uncharted 4. Another game that does that is Horizon Zero Dawn, it consistently looks good and to me the game with the most impressive models is Horizon Zero Dawn. Those robotic creatures are amazing to look at, the character models are impressive too but those robots take the cake.

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Stolen from Hellblade screenshots thread. Apart from the Lazy eye, impressive character model.

kGlAAd7.jpg


Another impressive character model
wceao1K.jpg


Impressive character model but not as impressive as the first 2.
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RDR2 is no doubt one of if not the most technically accomplished game and graphically impressive but to me its a case of the sum of the parts rather than the individual parts that make it impressive. And that's no small feat. It consistently looks amazing when taken as a whole and in my opinion consistently looks good from every angle compared to Uncharted 4. Another game that does that is Horizon Zero Dawn, it consistently looks good and to me the game with the most impressive models is Horizon Zero Dawn. Those robotic creatures are amazing to look at, the character models are impressive too but those robots take the cake.

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ZehDon

Member
Denying after that gameplay does make you look a little bit biased against the game, because that forest puts any forest in RDR 2 to shame graphically, you'll see when Digital Foundry talks about it.
I mean, we’re talking about what graphics we personally find impressive. This a subjective topic, so there’s not such thing as “not biased” here. Not sure what the point of your post is if you’re just saying “hey, that’s like, your opinion man”... in a discussion where we’re sharing our opinions.

Anyway, the animations are pretty decent - but the world in that forest section feels flat, and lacks dimension. The cut scenes have that dimension added back in - so it’s clear the lighting models are tweaked between gameplay versus in cinematic. Those scenes are lit and shot like a film, so of course those scenes are more impressive, because they’re not a pure simulation... which is what the gameplay is. And that’s where it falls down. It’s as if all light is disfused from all directions simultaneously, which sucks the depth out of the image. It has a soft “film” quality... but it doesn’t feel real to me.
RDR2 does something similar with gameplay and cutscene, but it’s real time lighting model is so good that even though the cut scenes are lit differently, the gameplay completely holds up. It’s environments feel organic and natural, as if it wasn’t hand crafted by Rockstars devs, whereas that forest scene in TLOU2 just feels staged and flat to me.
I grew up around forested woodland and the outback, and I’ve spent a lot of time walking that kind of terrain, so maybe I’m a little more sensitive to the lighting conditions than most. Not sure. For me, Rockstar nailed their natural and organic lighting, whereas I feel that Naughty Dog haven’t.
 

sendit

Member
Stolen from Hellblade screenshots thread. Apart from the Lazy eye, impressive character model.

kGlAAd7.jpg


Another impressive character model
wceao1K.jpg


Impressive character model but not as impressive as the first 2.
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RDR2 is no doubt one of if not the most technically accomplished game and graphically impressive but to me its a case of the sum of the parts rather than the individual parts that make it impressive. And that's no small feat. It consistently looks amazing when taken as a whole and in my opinion consistently looks good from every angle compared to Uncharted 4. Another game that does that is Horizon Zero Dawn, it consistently looks good and to me the game with the most impressive models is Horizon Zero Dawn. Those robotic creatures are amazing to look at, the character models are impressive too but those robots take the cake.

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Hellblade’s character model is very good. However, you could painfully tell on where the polygon budget went during gameplay.

 
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Cutscene versus gameplay. Only drake's photo is gameplay between the three.

Either way hellblade face looks good, but not better than drakes's face, and especially his model, when hair on his chest follow the wind and finger bones bend like real life, or the light passes a bit through his ears etc. All of them in a semi open environment.
 
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