-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Russian airliner carrying more than 200 passengers missing on flight over Egypt
- Thread starter chadskin
- Start date
- Status
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Your kidding me!
Oh come on. Fuck those guys.
I've seen the video 3-4 hours before ISIS claimed responsibility. Some say it's a scene from ArmA 2/3, filmed off a PC monitor with a (bad) mobile phone camera which doesn't seem to be too unlikely.
Such a sophisticated AA capability in the hands of ISIS is equivalent of them having posession of nuclear weaponry. It requires personnel and hardware.
We would know.
no army would let such platform get stolen or even disappear without searching for it desperately, also they would trained guys and funds to operate the damn gear they don't have
Most of the weaponry found in the Sinai area was stolen/bought from Libya after Gaddafi was killed. There was no supervision nor no one to actually care; same situation there was when the Soviet Union collapsed.
most anti air weapons of the Libyan army were destroyed or returned by the rebels after the war. Also how could they transfer such platform to Egypt without they notice
Resident_UA
Member
Usually when there's a plane crash the first question people have is if terrorism was involved. Somehow in this case it's exactly opposite. There isn't much evidence either way but there's no reason to exclude any theories yet.
(To me it seems like it's damage control on the part of Russian media. But I'm biased...)
(To me it seems like it's damage control on the part of Russian media. But I'm biased...)
Lamel
Banned
Looks like a stall. Pulled up and gained altitude, speed went down very fast, and the plane started to go down.
RIP.
Insane Metal
Member
Honestly, it doesn't look like that's what happened. While the plane was going up they kept the speed. It suddenly fell, both the speed and the altitude. My guess is an explosion.
CrocMother
Banned
...They can?
andythinkpad
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if it turn out to be a Being 777 instead of Airbus.
That is what the Guardian is saying
Going back it seems that it has been an internal sabotage, my bad
explosion seems so fake, like computer generated.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
so awful 
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
The conflicting reporting on this is both bizarre and fascinating in a somewhat unfortunate morbid way. That said, it's a tragedy for anyone involved or related to the deceased.
Except most car accident deaths can be prevented by wearing a seatbelt and driving safely, which I as a driver have total control over. As an airplane passenger I have no control over whether my plane crashes, and a seatbelt ain't gonna do shit if it does.
If we're just talking major commercial air accidents (where seat belts wouldn't matter...they would and do in many private air crash situations) you are far more likely to be involved in a fatal car accident in which a seatbelt could not save you.
bananafactory
Banned
You also have no control over some drunk running a red and slamming into you
It is simply talking about chances of dying in a car accident vs crashing in a plane. There is no arguing with this statistic, it is safer to fly than actually drive. The reason this statistic is needed is to showcase how rare it is to crash in a plane.
50 or so million people each month fly in commercial planes in U.S (2013 numbers), 100,000 flights per day in the world. Commercial planes rarely crash, there is no arguing against this statistic.
If you google car crashes in the world, you see 1.3 million people die in car crashes a year, whereas all flight crashes was 465 in 2013 with 3 billion passengers.
If you want to be afraid then go ahead, but you and anyone you know personally are unlikely to be in an airplane crash. You can easily google these numbers by the way.
Obliterator
Member
The odds of any of you dying in any transportation accident of any kind are incredibly low. Whether it's plane, train, or automobile. Less than 2% of all US related deaths are from transportation.
But if you were it would be my motorcycle which is by far the most deadly
But if you were it would be my motorcycle which is by far the most deadly
This is awful
I think the most deadly by far is a plane crash.
Edit: Oh I'm sorry, you meant totals.
I think the most deadly by far is a plane crash.
Edit: Oh I'm sorry, you meant totals.
Stereogatari
Banned
The ISIS hysteria is getting laughable. Their fear mongering has us right where they want us.
ultratruman
Banned
Surprised they're not trying to pin it on Kyev
I've been in a car accident twice and a motorcycle accident once. I don't think I would survive a plane crash. It's not like there's somekind of airbag mechanism saving me there.
This is awful
I think the most deadly by far is a plane crash.
He means totals not survivability.
... welp... I mean I guess we'll see if they're bullshitting or not soon enough.
why are they prepping it too long, means it wasn't planned beforehand. Theywant to spread public hysteria. THey want us to say let's stop fighing in syria before they start dropping more planes with our relatives onboard.
They tend to edit the shit out of their videos and I guess that takes time, that or they're going to bullshit and use fake footage and pass it off as real.
they usually announce with videos prepped up. This is different, now they're giving out teasers?
basically "please wait while the render on the shit cgi finishes"
Obliterator
Member
Exactly. That should be obvious
Percentage of deaths per transport is motorcycle by far. You are over 3,000x as likely to die on a motorcycle than in a plane
| Praxis |
Banned
They're scrambling to find a 980 so they can run Arma 3.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
we'll have the footage soon enough!
Just right after amazon delivers our Titan X's for Arma III, which is completely unrelated!
There are survivors in most plane crashes. If we take the A320 series (this was an A321) and look at the statistics:
For every hull loss (plane that was damaged beyond repair) there were 39 fatalities and even the smallest A318 fits 100 passengers.
Some planes are also quite tough. The Gimli Glider was repaired and used for 25 years after its crash landing. I don't think it needs saying that everyone survived on board.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked