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Yeah I think that is the case.I said PS5 is just the PS4 Pro+ months ago
By the time next-gen is really in full swing the 'real' PS5 will be out
Xbox Series will have more next gen only titles in the next 4-6 years.
Yeah I think that is the case.I said PS5 is just the PS4 Pro+ months ago
By the time next-gen is really in full swing the 'real' PS5 will be out
Who is going to bite the bullet and listen to the full unedited interview?
But I want to emphasize that PlayStation will remain the best place to play our PlayStation Studios titles at launch.
And decades of historical console transitions. Sony has never done this before.You fell for the PR!
I'm sure that's only because of the need for fast loading.R&C is now the only next gen ps5 exclusive that we know about lol wow
Poppycock, good sir.People saying "We believe in generations" can't read, can they?
"We have always said that we believe in generations. We believe that when you go to all the trouble of creating a next-gen console, that it should include features and benefits that the previous generation does not include. And that, in our view, people should make games that can make the most of those features.
"We do believe in generations, and whether it's the DualSense controller, whether it's the 3D audio, whether it's the multiple ways that the SSD can be used... we are thinking that it is time to give the PlayStation community something new, something different, that can really only be enjoyed on PS5."
It's about features.
Returnal.Are you fucking telling me I bought a PS5 just for Demon’s Souls, Returnal and Ratchet and Clank? I don’t even give a fuck about the first two.
That was from last year, where the whole "we believe in generations" came from.Sound like excuses to me
Returnal is one of the best games I've played in years.Returnal.
Well,idk if this will make sense to you, i follow the games more than specs , a new generation is exciting but experience has teached me time and time again it SUCKS to be a launch day system owner. Its nice to be able to play the newest game without having to spend money on the worst iteration of a system , i do exceptions on Nintendo systems. But, normally if its a cross gen title the experience on last gen is still solid, no ray tracing, fancy triggers or 4k but playable and pretty. Cyberpunk was an aberration not the norm.I fully realize I'm posting on a video game forum and am out of touch probably, but I can't think of a single person who WANTS to play these cutting edge games on a PS4 anyway. I've intentionally put off playing cross gen games until I get my PS5 (or just buy them on the Series X). The PS4 is a completely obsolete system, so it seems weird to support it 3 years past the expiration date when the majority of the big new games are exclusive to the PS5 anyway. What were the miles Morales numbers? That was a launch game and as cross gen as it gets, and I bet the PS5 sales smoked it. It's going to get even worse a year in.
I don't like when Microsoft does it either, but gamepass and their PC side of things at least has some logic to it.
How many first party PS5 only exclusives will have been released come June vs equivalent XSX|S?you guys owe me and Phil an apology.
last year i said crossing a generation takes a few years. Phil words got trolled non stop.
But no, you just believed the jimbo hype and made fun of the reality we spoke of.
But what the hell does "We believe in generations" actually mean though? It means nothing on its own. It's a broad PR statement, you can interpret it any number of ways. Can you actually quote somebody saying officially that all future titles will be ps5 only?We believe in generations. But go ahead try to spin it.
Dis real?
yep. i was wondering why there was no destruction in that trailer and why they were aiming for native 4k 60 fps with ray tracing. that shouldve been our first clue.no it doesn't make sense at all as cpu is so weak that you can forget about advance physics also wonder how dynamic weather will be possible, also we can forget about 30 multiclass cars races etc.
Sounds like a PR statement people took out of context on their own. I think they should be angry at themselves.Sounds like excuses to me
Here's the thing some of you keep missing though; not every game NEEDS that type of SSD throughput to realize its game design feature targets. We've had fast games before sans SSDs, as just one example, but there are various things to a game's logic and pipeline not reliant on fast rate of asset streaming that therefore won't be limited by lack of hard-targeting a specific SSD configuration.Everyone keeps talking graphics. It's also the "scope" of what they can do in terms of gameplay, mechanics, and ideas. These will be limited because they will always have to keep the PS4 in mind. Instead of GOW taking advantage of the SSD to its fullest, the set pieces/sequences will be limited by the PS4. No matter how amazing they look, we will always know they would have been tens of magnitudes more amazing if they were PS5 only since the PS4 is so damn weak.
sony is beyond stupid making gt7 crossgen but explain why it looks so similar to gt sport
Pretty level headed take in a sea of reactions.
I have no qualms with Microsoft or Sony releasing cross gen games like Forza, Halo, Horizon, God of War, etc. The more people get to play, the better. More money to invest in the next. All fine by me.
This means the true next gen games in 3-4 years by them will really be built from the ground up after getting initial systems and tools in place in-house to harness next gen power. It'll make the finale of God of War and Horizon (assuming that gets a third) absolute banger games.
I really don't think the quality of games will suffer much. Sony's teams have proven that not to be the case before.
Bryank is actually one of the few sony fans who have been highly critical of sony throughout the past year or so.I mean you have gobbled it up for over a year now.
Take it for what it is, but the Xbox team has been very up front on what they are doing and when. The Sony team has been slow rolling info out hoping that the slow burn works.
It's not like they just figured this all out now. They've known for awhile this was the case. They just preferred to have the warriors out there fighting the free PR wars.
Fixed this for you
I'll take 'PS4 bullshit' anyday over 90% of what the rest of the industry is currently developing.tis but a scratch .. a simple gfx PS5 fix. Core gameplay, AI, interactions, physics are 100% PS4 bullshit.
No need to spin, if you actually quote the entire statement .We believe in generations. But go ahead try to spin it.
“We have always said that we believe in generations. We believe that when you go to all the trouble of creating a next-gen console, that it should include features and benefits that the previous generation does not include. And that, in our view, people should make games that can make the most of those features."
"We do believe in generations, and whether it's the DualSense controller, whether it's the 3D audio, whether it's the multiple ways that the SSD can be used... we are thinking that it is time to give the PlayStation community something new, something different, that can really only be enjoyed on PS5.”
Still missing the big picture. If a game is PS5 only, the game design possibilities are that much greater than on the very weak PS4. A PS5 only GOW taking advantage of the PS5 will always be leaps and bounds better than a GOW that has to keep the PS4 in mind even if they are doing PS5 first and porting down.Here's the thing some of you keep missing though; not every game NEEDS that type of SSD throughput to realize its game design feature targets. We've had fast games before sans SSDs, as just one example, but there are various things to a game's logic and pipeline not reliant on fast rate of asset streaming that therefore won't be limited by lack of hard-targeting a specific SSD configuration.
Horizon: Forbidden West doesn't seem like the type of game that really NEEDS the SSD to realize its own creative ambitions; if it were conceptualized that way, I'm pretty sure it'd be PS5-only, like Rachet & Clank: Rift Apart seemingly is.
Is there anything in terms of game design WRT a fast, continuous asset stream GT7 is doing that would absolutely require PS5's SSD in order to function?
Just chill; "that" GT game will come in the future with GT8/GT Sport 2.
Yeah I mean after all that we believe in generations talk and the speed of SSD and Cerny talk about how PS5 is going to change game design…The reactions to this are so funny... yall should have kept your ps4s to play GOW at 30fps that you all love so much
Sure, I would want more PS5 exclusives and I am unhappy at three more big titles being cross-generation. It holds them back.Called it. The whole, Horizon looks like a half-step comment I made got shit on by the fan boys and this all but confirms what I said.
Some of you need to take your head out of the clouds and just call a spade a spade. Just because it's new doesn't mean it can't be criticized for what it is and makes everyone at hater or a troll.
I bet a lot of it had to do with the ongoing shortage of PS5s which doesn't seem like will be resolved any time soon. They probably even had to rethink the scope of the game.I don’t care about GT7 but GoW? Fuck that noise…
That’s not the point here pal.Wait you are telling me they decided to go with the decision that would give them the most profit?
Well I for one am SHOCKED.
R&C is now the only next gen ps5 exclusive that we know about lol wow
Sony Defence Force out in full.Sounds like a PR statement people took out of context on their own. I think they should be angry at themselves.