Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Mayweather (presumably) isn't having a fight on Avengers 3's OW, though.
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Wkd BO 0707-0917 - Minions cede dominion over box office, Homecoming KING
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That's fair but Ultron dropped like a rock after it's opening weekend. If May/Pac hurt the first Saturday gross so much, you'd think it would course correct somewhere along the way.
I know this has been predicted constantly for over a decade and always been wrong, but I think there'll be a major decline for the MCU and superhero movies in general after The Avengers 3 Part 2: The Avengers 4. Where is there to go next? How do you grow it after that? What's the hook that isn't just more of the same?
Truth be told he's probably doing it because he'd be in director jail after Tomorrowland, but still has enough good will at Disney that they'll fund him if he gives them a sequel. The situation is eerily similar to Andrew Stanton following up John Carter with Finding Dory.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Just about everything else had incredibly good holds the week after, so Ultron probably did course correct... it was just frontloaded as fuck. As 3N16MA noted, a $200M OW and the same legs as Civil War still leaves you about $4M shy of actual the domestic gross of Ultron.
edit: Rth updated numbers: WFTPOTA 19.1, SMH 17.5, DM3 7.3, BD 3.5, TBS 3, WW 2.7
Apes is probably looking at $55-56M now.
Its all a fucking disaster. I am really scared whats happening next.
Multiple reboots this close together was always a fucking horrible idea.
GamingPheasant
Banned
Sony Pictures: "On the upside: We'll still have Spider-Man. Spidey-verse is again a go."
LordOfLore
Banned
Imagine if Spider-Gwen ended up a bigger hit than Captain Marvel somehow.
GamingPheasant
Banned
And has a team-up with Fox's Gwen-Pool.
You people talk as if we were actually getting a Spider-Gwen movie.
I assume Gwenpool lies with Marvel.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Won't Apes meet the studio expectations of around 50-60 million?
We already know what's happening. Rothman will wait for the producing deal they have with Marvel to run out and in the meantime he's going to try snd put together his own knock-off Spidey universe that doesn't actually feature Spider-Man.
What could possibly go wrong?
Dash_Riprock
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With Homecoming's numbers I am now dead wrong on my all predictions so far this year barring one...
Therefore I now predict Justice League will gross $2 billion dollars and have a 98% rating on Rotten Tomatoes
Therefore I now predict Justice League will gross $2 billion dollars and have a 98% rating on Rotten Tomatoes
Hoping the deal just continues as planned since they'll still make way more money than they did with the asm series.
I'm assuming that when they started this project they expected better numbers. There is a difference between what you expect initially and what you expect based on projections shortly before release.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Spider-Man will be fine, this is a Batman Begins situation (with much better numbers), they're rebuilding the brand.
But I do wonder if the MCU is maybe starting to scare away some casual moviegoers who don't feel that invested in the universe. The floor for each of their films is 500 million worldwide and I have no doubt that all of their future films will clear that easily and then some but maybe the ceiling is slowly getting lower and lower. Well, that's my hot take at least.
I'd be fine with that.
But he should just follow Sean Young's example at this point and burst into Geoff Johns office in costume while reciting the GL oath.
But I do wonder if the MCU is maybe starting to scare away some casual moviegoers who don't feel that invested in the universe. The floor for each of their films is 500 million worldwide and I have no doubt that all of their future films will clear that easily and then some but maybe the ceiling is slowly getting lower and lower. Well, that's my hot take at least.
I'd be fine with that.
But he should just follow Sean Young's example at this point and burst into Geoff Johns office in costume while reciting the GL oath.
Stop making sense, sense.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I really think there is MCU fatigue, but I still bet IW makes huge money. Everyone tunes in for the finale.
Can IW get a finale bump when in just in a year there is Avengers 5 with the same cast?
And everyone knows the MCU movies will keep on coming on end after that too.
Finale films get the finale sort of bumps when it is the final film in the franchise (at least assumed the franchise is officially done at that time), not that it's a finale of a particular story line.
And everyone knows the MCU movies will keep on coming on end after that too.
Finale films get the finale sort of bumps when it is the final film in the franchise (at least assumed the franchise is officially done at that time), not that it's a finale of a particular story line.
HeartlessNobody213
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No one really expected Spidey to make a billion right??
With the exchange rates and competition it had no chance.
With the exchange rates and competition it had no chance.
Ignatz Mouse
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Agreed. Even if the legs aren't great, nearly everyone who has seen the movie loves it. The real question will be where the sequel falls in the slate of other MCU movies.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's a two part finale hardly a separate thing. More like Deathly Hollows part 1 and 2 (despite as much as they want to market otherwise).
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
It's the one all the movies have been building up to. All the teases and Tony's dream sequence, all the Thanos stuff and and the Infinity Stone stuff.
Unless Avengers 5 is more of that story, and that's understood ahead of time, IW will be the one everyone has been waiting for.
I mean, *I* have MCU fatigue and I'm heavily anticipating it.
At the time it was assumed those two films were the end of the Harry Potter film franchise and there would be no more films.
Nobody thinks that about Infinity War. Everyone knows in a few years there is going to be a six Avengers and the MCU will keep on going.
End of a franchise bump and end of a "storyline" in a on going franchise really isn't the same thing. One is more like a series finale of a tv show, the other is more like a season finale.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I don't think we have a precedent for this. But I still think the Thanos story is what people have been waiting for.
I think there will be a bump for sure, by comparing it to the increase of franchise ending films really doesn't work I think. We haven't seen anything like this but there isn't going to be a single person in the theater who will go in thinking this is the end of the MCU franchise let alone the Avengers sub series.
Agree, all this finale hype can easily lead to a backlash. It's better for them if they DON'T try and market it that way.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
It all depends on whether franchise end bumps are because we won't have more, or if they are because it's the long awaited payoff.
And wth autocorrect, you just predicted "Beavis" from my typo of "because"!
And wth autocorrect, you just predicted "Beavis" from my typo of "because"!
Not even MCUGAF is reasonable and remembers that this is just the semifinale. Its going to be a huge backlash.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Their messaging on that front has been a little bit confusing to be honest. I wonder if they are legit trying to surprise people with the ending of Infinity War or if they'll make it clearer that this is a two-part story in their marketing. I'd prefer the latter solution tbh, the other one could backfire.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Only people that who litterally found out about this movie a shortly before release would have this problem. Until the recent change in marketing these movies have been described as infitnity war part 1 and 2 from the onset. No invested fan will have this problem
Kenzodielocke
Banned
What's the second part called?
A decent amount of people predicted a billion actually
LordOfLore
Banned
Wouldn't that be most people? I don't know if a lot of people really know about movies that are coming before there are teasers of it.
They didn't reveal it yet. I'm guessing they'll unveil it during the upcoming SDCC or after IW has been released.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Avengers: D-Man Rises
gundamkyoukai
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Don't know why some people so worry about Spider-Man .
It should make more than ASM2 and it cheaper along with it being a reboot .
SHC2 will be the real test and should tell you if you have to worry or not.
It should make more than ASM2 and it cheaper along with it being a reboot .
SHC2 will be the real test and should tell you if you have to worry or not.
I think people are more concerned about the crazy executives running Sony having unrealistic expectations.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Riduclous expecations are the root cause and I think many were honestly expecting 900-1 billion. The fact it's more likely to be in WW ball park range (which many expected to bomb), was far too unexpected.
It will make more than Amazing 1 as well.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
It will also sell a ton of toys. Who gets that revenue, post Sony - Marvel make-up deal?
Marvel
Roland_Gunner
Member
Batman Begins had over a 4x multiplier against its opening. Homecoming opened huge and looks to have a larger, but not massive drop. They really aren't similar at all from a box office standpoint.