Punished Miku
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My first post said the same thing you just said. It's a viral hit and I'm sure it will do well anywhere.
But are early access indie survival games typically popular on PS? Not really, so far. Maybe that will change now.
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Will Palworld remain an Xbox exclusive?
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But are early access indie survival games typically popular on PS? Not really, so far. Maybe that will change now.
Topher
Gold Member
Ah.....ok, I follow you.
Did I miss all the promos Microsoft launched for Palworld or something? Looks to me like this game's success was a complete surprise to everyone, including Microsoft.
Roxkis_ii
Member
I think the word of mouth from pc gamers would have still propelled this game to similar heights. Regardless what console it was with.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
That Tweet was a week ago and they're down about a third of their Steam player base since peak. Twitch engagement's fallen off a cliff.
Fair enough though, we'll see, I just don't think it's something that'll go all the way. I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to talk to Pocketpair about a future project instead.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
It's not exclusive, Sony and Nintendo just don't play nice with Early Access. I have no doubt it will hit both platforms once version 1.0 hits.
Mr Moose
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Share what you've been smoking.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I think they should release it on Playstation. I don't know what the Gamepass deal looked like and I don't think Microsoft knew what they had before it became the phenomenon that it is...but I imagine the contract was probably a timed thing. Check back in 6 months to a year.
This would also play into Xbox's current plan of releasing previously exclusive games on other platforms.
I know Sony will not do the same (releasing previously exclusive games on Xbox) but man who really cares. Only fanboys care. Well...and maybe Nintendo. Having Palworld proliferate into Sony's ecosystem would probably be bad for Nintendo. That would be the only reason I could imagine Xbox would think twice.
Just trying to look at things from all angles...I mean it's not like Microsoft published Palworld. It's biggest value to Xbox might be in subscription growth for Gamepass honestly. In that case, holding onto Palworld might be the better idea. I'd imagine they'd have to cut a new deal though, for much more money.
This would also play into Xbox's current plan of releasing previously exclusive games on other platforms.
I know Sony will not do the same (releasing previously exclusive games on Xbox) but man who really cares. Only fanboys care. Well...and maybe Nintendo. Having Palworld proliferate into Sony's ecosystem would probably be bad for Nintendo. That would be the only reason I could imagine Xbox would think twice.
Just trying to look at things from all angles...I mean it's not like Microsoft published Palworld. It's biggest value to Xbox might be in subscription growth for Gamepass honestly. In that case, holding onto Palworld might be the better idea. I'd imagine they'd have to cut a new deal though, for much more money.
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Ohhh I didn't know that. Is this true?
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
The question is - did the devs? Doubtful they would have even agreed to gamepass if they knew what a hit it would be, so its possible they agreed to a pretty strict contract.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Very true. A good point.
//DEVIL//
Member
Lol. By that standard god of war, ratchet, days gone, all horizon games and spider man ads not PlayStation exclusive . Lol
Do not count the master race as part of the consoles eco system. They are console exclusive.
Topher
Gold Member
Or it is possible there is no contract as far as how long it is exclusive as this may simply be a matter of PS and Nintendo not allowing early access as others have said. No way to know.
rodrigolfp
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They are not exclusives.
If they are console exclusives then they are PC exclusives.
Topher
Gold Member
Factually, those games are not "PlayStation exclusive".
//DEVIL//
Member
How so ? PC and consoles are not the same. One is 3x the price of a console .
I get it the word exclusive here means it's not anywhere else. But the term console exclusive is real.
When hi fi rush hits ps5, it's not a console exclusive . But the same can't be said for Sony games as they are not coming to Xbox.
PC will always be on it's different space and entity. This is how I see it anyway
Topher
Gold Member
The price of the system has nothing to do with exclusivity. If you get that exclusivity means it's not anywhere else then you get why those games are not "PlayStation exclusive". Microsoft invented the term "console exclusive" just so they could continue to use the word "exclusive" in their marketing. Ultimately, it has very little meaning except in console war debates, imo.
Zheph
Member
the lines are more blurred than they were a few years ago
at the end of the day, you can play the game on something else than the console
I'm sure the popularity surprised them but they obviously thought it was worth bothering with for gamepass
Topher
Gold Member
That doesn’t mean much. There are plenty of games that are on Game Pass that are not popular at all.
Solidus_T
Member
It will definitely be ported to Switch/Switch 2, PS4/5 and then even other storefronts on PC like Epic for that maximum profit.
Yeah given how updates for this game are going, the Steam version seems to be the most stable.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
1: It's not an Xbox exclusive; it's also on PC (Steam Early Access)
2: ALL of the sales have been on Steam via Early Access; zero copies have been sold on Xbox
3: The Palworld devs have already said they're looking to bring the game to other platforms
4: Given the CM's views on mass consolidation, I don't think Palworld devs are down with some extended or permanent exclusivity deal, especially on a console with the smallest install base. No amount of moneyhatting will probably change that.
5: The only way it remains an Xbox console exclusive is if it gets PT'd; if Nintendo hits the game with a lawsuit and it has to be removed from sale, other ports won't come. However, even in this case Xbox owners still lose access because it's a game only available through Game Pass. Microsoft would just ping consoles to connect online, check accessed games, and do an update to remove Palworld copies installed on any systems.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
There's a possibility the game is being made for other platforms alongside PC and Xbox. Sony simply doesn't allow for early access stuff on PS systems. Who knows once the game leaves that stage.
MarkMe2525
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You don't have a monopoly on the usage of the word exclusive. "Console exclusive" is a completely reasonable and useful term.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
How did you jump to this conclusion?
MonkeyClaw36
Member
No. We are talking gaming platforms. A console is a platform just as PC is.
So it still isnt exclusive.
Xbox is just 1 platform. Pc is another, so is PS5 and the Switch.
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MarkMe2525
Member
Yes, and there are multiple gaming platforms. I dont feel like i should have to explain this. There are general purpose computing platforms and there are gaming specific consoles. If someone wants to convey the fact that a particular game is only available on one of these "gaming consoles", then you can use the term "console exclusive".
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Hate to break it to ya, but the “Xbox platform” includes Xbox consoles, PC and mobile. Any device that can have game pass on it is an Xbox platform. Kind of the whole point.
Senua
Member
The term "console exclusive" is Fanboy drivel for brownie points
It's not exclusive, by definition
Topher
Gold Member
Clearly he is talking about the Xbox console. But no, an Xbox app on android doesn't magically change that android to an Xbox.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Mr Moose
Member
My PC is not an Xbox.
FoxMcChief
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Mr Moose
Member
You don't need to sniff that, it'll be OK.
Topher
Gold Member
ManaByte
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[citation needed]
MarkMe2525
Member
I don't think he was making the argument that it literally becomes on xbox. If you are accessing the xcloud to play a game, regardless of device used, you are playing on Xbox's platform. Regardless, I believe all if this to be besides the point.
Does the term confuse you? No, when you here the term, you know exactly to what it refers to. We use language to convey a thought, and if this particular term can broadly convey a specific meaning, then it is useful. To reject this is "Fanboy drivel" for gaf brownie points.
Language is not static. Words and terms are constantly evolving to match the specific areas of our world that are constantly evolving.
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Senua
Member
Xbox is an app on PC that you can use if you so desire, that does not make the PC an Xbox lol. It's way more than that.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Gif looks like a snowflake who blocked me
MarkMe2525
Member
You are allowed to frame your willfull ignorance in any manner you please.Xbox is an app on PC that you can use if you so desire, that does not make the PC an Xbox lol. It's way more than that.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Pretty much, no-one knew this would explode like it did, I bet PS would have been tempted to relax their early access restrictions if they had known. Nintendo - they probably would have got their lawyers out before it released if they had known.
It’s temporarily exclusive because its early access. It’s incredibly hard and expensive for microsoft to moneyhat third party games at the moment because the split in sales of third party games are typically 80/20 to PlayStation. So for PlayStation they need to cover the lost potential revenue for the 20% of lost sales to xbox. For xbox they need to cover the 80% of potential lost sales to Sony. Now that palworld is already a massive success it’ll be even more expensive, as there is solid grounds for placing a very high expected sales number on Sony systems. It would cost billions to cover the lost sales. In addition to that, microsoft could fork over the money, and then a few months from now Nintendo kill the whole thing.
So imo zero chance. It’ll either be on Sony the moment it leaves early access (or sooner if Sony bend the rules for them), or it’ll be deleted from existence by a giant Mario wielding a gavel.
So imo zero chance. It’ll either be on Sony the moment it leaves early access (or sooner if Sony bend the rules for them), or it’ll be deleted from existence by a giant Mario wielding a gavel.
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Senua
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If you need to make qualifiers to a term it's probably bullshite. I just respect definitions of words m8
JackMcGunns
Member
This plus other comments, why do they happen when...
God of War, The Last of Us, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank... etc. are on PC, makes no sense, they're still known as PS exclusive franchises regardless.