Hard-hitting stuff.
*deep breath* First step. Now let's hope the rest of the steps get us where we need to be.
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Video released of Tulsa PD shooting and killing unarmed black man (Up: not guilty)
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Hard-hitting stuff.
How will they botch it and let her walk away free?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I could see a manslaughter charge sticking.
EdibleKnife
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Yeah. I'm pessimistic. Why should things change now?
Well, it happened to the cop who raped all those women in Oklahoma. Everyone was saying "he won't be convicted" at the time but they threw the book at him.
FreedomFighter
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I don't know, man. I'm getting a seriously eerie feeling about this.
Recall Rekia Boyd's killer, Officer Dante Servin. Judge let him off on a "technicality", saying the prosecution undercharged and should've went for a murder charge.
Only cautious optimism here, y'all. You know how these things end.
Exactly how I just said.
EdibleKnife
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He also raped multiple women. Living victims who could ban together to actually tell their story multiple times. Here we have a video, the word of a cop and a dead man. A situation we've seen before many times and has bore little fruit in the way of justice.
DrForester
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Sad that this has pretty much been entirely forgotten because of the North Carolina shooting. Guy there had a gun, which automatically means he deserved to die according to far too many people, and there has been looting after protests (which means protests and the looting are the same thing to too many people).
Not much, but it's two videos and also video evidence contradicting their initial statements concerning the murder. That's more ammunition (no pun intended) than Trayvon Martin ever got.
Not that I won't be woefully unsurprised if nothing sticks, especially since her husband is a fellow-cop (that's an attack on TWO cops on the force...), but I also don't see charges thrown at officers so quickly like this either or video evidence that blatantly contradicts their original reports.
RPGCrazied
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Good to see her charged, but yeah, I have a feeling she will walk, just cause I have no faith in our justice system.
MMaRsu
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Wow this is good news
shinkai
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Were any of the those charges recent? I'm also thinking the same thing as your friend, it just seems all too coincidental that's pretty much how I see it.
It seems like they never go with Manslaughter charges in cases like this for some reason when it seems like the most reasonable charge to levee.
When they go straight for murder I always suspect they don't expect the case to go forward anyway and just want a PR bump in the short term.
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A rubber bullet shows as a round spot on the X-ray of 14-year-old Wael Imad. The Palestinian boy died of his injuries on 22 October 2000. (TIME)
It's a step in the right direction.
The Hamburglar
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That's because he went around raping women. Can't exactly make excuses for that shit.
Shooting innocent black men they can always come up with they feared for their life etc.
That helicopter tape with them commenting on the guy is appalling.
Palette Swap
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I'd be curious to see data on that: out of all the cops actually charged, the breakdown by gender/race. We're seeing the isolated cases, but yeah, the last one I remember is an Asian guy.
This might all be confirmation bias on my part: expecting a racist institution to be racist, even towards its own.
What A Time To Be Alive
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I'm never really that serious on this site but this seriously bothered me to the point of tears.
This man had a family, was in CC to get his diploma and get up to those higher paying jobs was doing nothing wrong and complied with the police but still ended up getting shot and killed for it.
It makes me even more scared as a black man that one day my car could stall, could get pulled over, or have any type of negative interaction with the police and those could be my last moments.
It's really hard for me to handle.
This man had a family, was in CC to get his diploma and get up to those higher paying jobs was doing nothing wrong and complied with the police but still ended up getting shot and killed for it.
It makes me even more scared as a black man that one day my car could stall, could get pulled over, or have any type of negative interaction with the police and those could be my last moments.
It's really hard for me to handle.
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Weird how the host didn't notice he put his hands down near his waist, not that that's any excuse to shoot but still.
I know right? Especially the last phrase was something people should really be thinking about more.
DJ Lushious
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That is AWFUL! How does the police force justify rubber bullets?
DrForester
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AntraxSuicide
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Eh, if ignoring black victims is a national pastime for the cops (it is), I'd argue ignoring sexual assault is probably the other big favorite of the police. I was shocked that they got that guy.
Brb, watching him cry again.
FreedomFighter
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Yeah, I enjoyed that bit probably even more than you did. Served him right. Bitch ass mofo.
Aeternus Malum
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SliceSabre
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She won't serve a day.
It'll go to trial, the jury will be a hung jury because there is always those couple people who could never imagine a cop committing a crime(or fuck black people they are always a threat types), she'll get fired and then get hired by another department so she can threaten more black people and his family with get a couple million dollars for their troubles.
Same shit different day.
It'll go to trial, the jury will be a hung jury because there is always those couple people who could never imagine a cop committing a crime(or fuck black people they are always a threat types), she'll get fired and then get hired by another department so she can threaten more black people and his family with get a couple million dollars for their troubles.
Same shit different day.
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Vilix
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I have a feeling she'll get convicted. However, I bet she gets probation.
AstroNut325
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This was excellent. Thank you!
Edit:
Why are pics of people hurt by non lethal ammo posted in this thread? Is that to imply that getting hurt is somehow worse than outright murder?
EdibleKnife
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No it's just a reply to the idea that PDs switching to rubber bullets might result in less death but it will still cause an incredible amount of damage and that the push should be for less of a reliance on propelled force altogether
Gotdatmoney
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That's basically what I use when black on black crime is brought up. They normally deflect from there because they can't actually argue it.
Portugeezer
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Nah, I think more will be done... but then again she is a woman so she'll get a lighter punishment in general. There is no evidence of anything to even put doubt in anyone's mind for this one. No one running away, no struggle, nothing... bitch just shot him as he stood by his car.
you mean less lethal. tasers and rubber bullets kill too
The Hamburglar
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sad thing is real terrorists such who have actual shoot outs with police tend to survive and then get arrested. While people who are not a threat gunned down for no reason.
Mistrial or bench trial. Basically look at the Trayvon Martin results.
A very real, and even likely, possibility, but the Trayvon Martin case didn't have two videos documenting the confrontation or showing the outcome. The Martin case was a horrible case of "my word against his, and he's dead".
I'm not exactly optimistic, but at least this has the whole confrontation recorded by multiple cameras and clear evidence that contradicts their initial statements.
FreedomFighter
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Yeah, I bet they do. All four of your points were salient, but I never thought of it in the way you described point #4. Hard for them to wrap their head around that one, I'm sure.
What bothers me here is that she just might even get prosecuted not only because she's guilty but because she's a woman. If anyone would be made an example of, it would be her. That's a little problematic to me. But I still want her to go to jail though.
I've seen a few people say this. Thankfully, it has been said more as an aside than a defense like what happened with Peter Liang.
rokkerkory
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Wow powerful
undrtakr900
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I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember Rodney King beating, but the Cops said the same thing about King to assassinate his character:
"The officers later testified that they believed King was under the influence of the dissociative drug phencyclidine (PCP), although King's toxicology tested negative for the drug."
Gordon Shumway
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Watched a sad video with his sister and she said something I'm guessing hasn't been mentioned before.
Seems he had a prosthetic eye and hearing problems? She speaks on it around 2:00 mark.
Guessing you can't fake something like that, as they can obviously examine his body to prove if it's true or not. This damn case, man..
Seems he had a prosthetic eye and hearing problems? She speaks on it around 2:00 mark.
Guessing you can't fake something like that, as they can obviously examine his body to prove if it's true or not. This damn case, man..
BlazinSkatinAxel
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Anyone one see this video of nearby Muskogee PD pepper spraying a 84 year old woman at 3am?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cops-pepper-spray-elderly-woman_us_57c3268de4b085c1ff29d428
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cops-pepper-spray-elderly-woman_us_57c3268de4b085c1ff29d428
chromatic9
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Crazy to read the police just happened to be passing by on another call and feel the need to all jump out guns and taser pointing.
What happened to just slowing down and lowering the window to ask what's happening. police over there escalate normal situations into a man hunt or drug bust.
What happened to just slowing down and lowering the window to ask what's happening. police over there escalate normal situations into a man hunt or drug bust.
shadow_shogun
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Attorney: Betty Shelby had temporary loss of hearing during Terence Crutcher shooting
Uh huh...sounds about right.
Uh huh...sounds about right.
Gordon Shumway
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We making folks so nervous they lose their hearing..
IamMattFox
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Nabs
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Deafening stare.
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