MidGenRefresh
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Lol, no. It’s utter garbage and needs to go.
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Forza Motorsport |OT| Step on the GaaS
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Lol, no. It’s utter garbage and needs to go.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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It's only allowing me to play the first series "the builders cup" . The rest of Career is blocked and says I have to wait 4 more days (shows a countdown)
You're telling me other people don't have this and can play more?
LostDonkey
Member
I disagree wholeheartedly.
It makes you focus on the car, spend valuable time with it and learn the intricacies of the handling model for each motor and then how it changes with each upgrade. It also stops you just whacking a huge stage 3 turbo on a car and not be able to drive it any more. More focus on balance.
MidGenRefresh
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No, this is their single player content planned for the next couple of weeks for everyone. One cup per week. That’s it.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Phil needs to go. Destroying Halo is the biggest tragedy to happen under this moron. Forza being so lacking is on him too. I can't believe that between Starfield and Forza, the Xbox isn't "back" in 2023. This was supposed to finally be the year the ship would be righted but it's not. Forza should look like that original trailer but it feels like we were lied to. Next gen only racing game that kinda sorta looks a bit better than gt7 at times. Can't believe between Halo Infinite, Redfall, Starfield and now Forza people don't have their pitchforks our for Xbox leadership.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Exactly! What kind of BS is this?
MidGenRefresh
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You’re delusional. Play FM4 for 1 hour and you see how much superior progression is in that game. Designers behind the new game are fucking imbeciles.
Senua
Gold Member
But once you upgrade and bond with that car the champion is over and you're forced into a new very small selection of cars. The event restrictions aren't broad enough. I'm doing a German saloon event ATM and you only have the choice of 3 cars
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MidGenRefresh
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Bingo!!!!!!!
MidGenRefresh
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It’s not BS, it’s GAAS.
Elysium44
Banned
Oh we were lied to, there's no feel about it. It's straight up false advertising. But Turn 10 have always done this, they just aren't an honest company.
Elysium44
Banned
Microsoft says they support actions to tackle climate change etc. and are a green company, yet they produce products like this which literally encourage you to leave your console on, consuming electricity for no reason whatsoever other than to complete pointless busywork so you can upgrade your car and play the way you actually want to. Dumb as rocks. But it will go down in their metrics as 'engagement' and they will brag about it in a press release. GaaS really is cancerous.
Electricity isn't free either so basically it's costing real money (not a lot but it all adds up) to level up each car.
(If you didn't watch the video, it tells you how to make your car do 20 laps by driving itself, without you playing.)
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DenchDeckard
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OK, finally fired this up on my aging logitech g920 as my fanatec hasn't arrived.
All I can say is, WOW. They finally did it! Game feels awesome even on this wheel. I've done the three opening racers in my scooby sti and I'm very happy with the racing. They've finally nailed it. Got it all right with penalties etc. I'm now just waiting for the crash to earth once I get into the meat and potato's and find out how absolute shite the progression system and lackluster campaign is.
Popping out for some lunch but looking forward to getting in on some online action to see how that is. Hopefully every ones racing properly.
All I can say is, WOW. They finally did it! Game feels awesome even on this wheel. I've done the three opening racers in my scooby sti and I'm very happy with the racing. They've finally nailed it. Got it all right with penalties etc. I'm now just waiting for the crash to earth once I get into the meat and potato's and find out how absolute shite the progression system and lackluster campaign is.
Popping out for some lunch but looking forward to getting in on some online action to see how that is. Hopefully every ones racing properly.
Jibran#one
Member
This was the game I bought the series X for launch
But when I saw the lvling up system I decided not to get the premium add-ons because of how stupid the leveling system is
If I have 2 same cars atleast have them both fully lvled when I lvled one of them
What and who the fuck thought that was a good idea to lvl the same car again and again
But when I saw the lvling up system I decided not to get the premium add-ons because of how stupid the leveling system is
If I have 2 same cars atleast have them both fully lvled when I lvled one of them
What and who the fuck thought that was a good idea to lvl the same car again and again
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
^^^ THAT is the game we were supposed to be getting. Remember, it was shown at the Xbox Conference. That means this was supposed to be Series X gameplay and that the PC would be even better. Of course a week later they had to admit it was in fact PC footage. So the lies started flowing early on with Turn 10.
It's honestly almost EVERY AAA/AA developer in the in industry that's deceitful in some way. I think it all starts from the top with MS and Sony tacitly encouraging developers to be misleading. Most common is showing PC footage passed off as console on the storefronts. MS and Sony's "hands off policy" is very convenient for all parties involved.
I guess some companies just have the gall to lie boldfaced to us. The CD Project Reds, sadly now the Naughty Dogs (LoU1 Remake), Turn 10 etc
As long as they're all in on it together (and have shill Youtubers in their pocket) then they'll keep getting away with it. This is why I have no love for Digital Foundry who should really be calling them out on their false advertising.
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Bogroll
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Not really no.Do we have to turn into sad football fans who stand outside the football ground with banners wanting the manager gone. Don't get me wrong I like football but do we really have to be that invested.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
The final product on PC doesn't look as good as the fake first trailer they wanted us to believe was Series X footage.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Yeah we do apparently. You think I want to? It's taken how many years for some fanboy Xbox people to even begin to question Phils handling of Xbox
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
I get where you're coming from as I don't like games where everything is gifted to you easily. But just let me buy parts for another of the same car once I have unlocked them.
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
I'm enjoying it. Far from perfect but it all sounds a bit to dramatic to me.
It's just gaming.
Insane Metal
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What?
MidGenRefresh
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I'm playing FM4 on my old, scratched and dusty 360. Campaign in that game is so, so, so much better. World tour is so well made. The way the world map moves from place to place and zooms to the track. The music. The fact that you can select from 1 out of 3 different 'themes' for each event. I'm in Expert Division but I can still use the same BMW M3 I almost started with because one of the events is BodyStyle Sedan. The other 2 are North America Tour S class and Mustang vs. Camaro Challenge.
There are 290 different 'themes'. A theme can be for example 'Audi TT Club'. Or ' Euro Sedans'. Or 'Hybrid Drivetrains'. Etc. Each theme has 3, 4 or 5 races, 1 if it's a showcase (which is rare) or more if it's a professional league.
It's packed with content. Absolutely packed.
There are 290 different 'themes'. A theme can be for example 'Audi TT Club'. Or ' Euro Sedans'. Or 'Hybrid Drivetrains'. Etc. Each theme has 3, 4 or 5 races, 1 if it's a showcase (which is rare) or more if it's a professional league.
It's packed with content. Absolutely packed.
MidGenRefresh
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He kind of has a point. Since practice session is optional there should be an option to skip it by default for people who don't want to participate. All these cut scenes at the beginning of the race and 'driver showcase' (fucking cringe) should also be optional. If you want to skip all of that, there's a lot of loading screens. Compare it to FM4. Select race. Press A. Loading screen. Menu where you can tune your car, etc. Press A to start and it's 3, 2, 1... GO!
ABrokenToy
Member
Yup. Looks nothing like that on PC AND those assets aren't even in Maple Valley. Ridic.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm sorry I had to, this is reaching borderline "look at that bitch eating crackers" level of criticism here now
ABrokenToy
Member
Right, but it doesn't even look like that on PC.
I'd say the PC version is pretty much the Series X version as far as assets go with the ability to bump RT up a little bit and a few other tweaks. But as far as textures and assets go, probably the same.
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Insane Metal
Member
Series x graphics unstable
The graphics in my series x are the worst ,can not play due to flashing lights and graphics also on cars also in the circuit. I try to play the game in visual and performance RT but i can not due to unstable and bad quality textures…im so disappointed from the maker’s because the give focus in...
forums.forza.net
Seems like this was rushed for launch, even with 6 years of development.
ABrokenToy
Member
Just did a race where blue smoke from the stands just lingered in the air the whole race and also lost all my DLSS settings. It's showing AMD FSR settings... LOL. wha?!
transformer
Member
You can race the car in anyway you want and it levels up. Free play, rivals, online, etc. so the career events are not the only way.
Skifi28
Gold Member
Yup, FM4 was peak turn10. Ever since then it's been two steps forward and three back.
DanielG165
Member
While I’m waiting for Tuesday, I decided to load up FM6 again, and goodness me what a game this was/still is. It really felt like there was a ton of effort, love, care, and charm put into this, alongside quality. I don’t remember hearing about any issues with the game upon release; it was just solid from the beginning. It’s pure unadulterated Forza Motorsport in the best way possible.
For me, and this is my opinion from having not played FM8 yet, FM6 and Forza Horizon 3 were the last two games where you really felt like Turn 10 and PG poured their hearts into the respective products they were making, and it shows. FH3 maxed out looks absolutely stunning and damn near rivals the likes of The Crew Motorfest, and FM6 just feels great to play. The sound quality isn’t as good as FM5, but I digress. Do later titles look better? Sure. Horizon 5 looks bonkers, and FM7 looks great as well. But, Horizon 3 and Motorsport 6 both have a type of charm and love and quality that those games can’t match imo.
I’m still really looking forward to playing Motorsport 8 this week, but as a 2080 Super owner… I’m not feeling all that confident.
For me, and this is my opinion from having not played FM8 yet, FM6 and Forza Horizon 3 were the last two games where you really felt like Turn 10 and PG poured their hearts into the respective products they were making, and it shows. FH3 maxed out looks absolutely stunning and damn near rivals the likes of The Crew Motorfest, and FM6 just feels great to play. The sound quality isn’t as good as FM5, but I digress. Do later titles look better? Sure. Horizon 5 looks bonkers, and FM7 looks great as well. But, Horizon 3 and Motorsport 6 both have a type of charm and love and quality that those games can’t match imo.
I’m still really looking forward to playing Motorsport 8 this week, but as a 2080 Super owner… I’m not feeling all that confident.
KloetenQuetsche
Member
That's why I play on console
DenchDeckard
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Did 2 out of the three required online races....really, really effing enjoyed it.
I don't know how long I'll be interested but it's great fun with the g920. Just need my fanatec rig to turn up so I can play this, gt7, assetto, f123 and wrc.
I don't know how long I'll be interested but it's great fun with the g920. Just need my fanatec rig to turn up so I can play this, gt7, assetto, f123 and wrc.
clarky
Banned
But i want to play the career and online so my point stands the way things are structured in this game the levelling system is fucking stupid and actively works against the player. Playing the career and leveled up a car to 25? Tough shit if you want to take it any further bar doing the same event or timetrials. There should be multiple events in the builder cup for every class of car. Like I said its fucking stupid and can't be defended.
Don't get me wrong the racing is fucking superb online, everything else not so much.
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clarky
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This wasn't in development for 6 years. Try 3 tops.Series x graphics unstable
The graphics in my series x are the worst ,can not play due to flashing lights and graphics also on cars also in the circuit. I try to play the game in visual and performance RT but i can not due to unstable and bad quality textures…im so disappointed from the maker’s because the give focus in...
Seems like this was rushed for launch, even with 6 years of development.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
This game was first revealed with a trailer 3 years ago, what do you think they were doing up to that point?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I will add this statement from
- Dan Greenawalt, General Manager, Forza Motorsport at Turn 10 Studios
Let’s talk a little bit more about what Forza Motorsport is at its core. We’ve used the period since our last launch to innovate, redevelop, and refocus on the very core of the game. The entire experience of racing at the limit, improving your skill, building up your car, and competing on the track have been completely rethought. Our goal was to create a live, connected, immersive, accessible, and ever-changing competitive racing platform that will evolve and grow with our community. We’ve created a more competitive, accurate, and rewarding racing experience thanks to huge, foundational improvements in our physics and AI – more than all previous Motorsports combined. If you know Forza, you will feel the difference immediately.
So yeah they have been working on this game in some capacity since their last launch in 2017
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/09/28/forza-motorsport-horizon-launch/
Insane Metal
Member
Either they're incompetent or there is something really bad going on with the management.
Nemesisuuu
Member
You are missing something, when you finish first cup under modern tab you unlock cup under enthusiast tab. If you just finished featured, that one doesn't unlock anything as it is in let's say 'seasonals' they will put online periodically. Of course, you have first to finish introduction cup to be able to progress further, after that one is one with hot hatches.
Why are more people not disappointed in the total lack of music of any kind during races? I've never played a racing game with no music whatsoever like this. It feels like a half-measure, something to cut corners and get it done fast. Also, although I generally prefer my Series X over my PS5, playing GT7 with DualSense feels like the superior experience to me (that, and I actually think GT7 LOOKS better also). There is just something about the graphics on Forza Motorsport that seem "off" to me. I can't quite put my finger on it though.
clarky
Banned
I have absolutely no idea but it cant have been this game
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Someone can correct me if I am wrong but sadly Motorsport is all Turn 10 does and this is what we got unless most of the team went on vacation for 3 years
GHG
Gold Member
clarky
Banned
Oh im not arguing with you fella. I just look at what they have released and this can't have taken 6 years. Rebooted maybe?
I know they helped with Halo and COVID etc but this is their worst effort by far.
Edit: The Handling model and the online saves this from being a complete disaster. When it works it works really well. I though MS would have learned there lesson with Redfall but nope, here we are. Its not like they are desparate for a release putting this off till say march and nobody would have batted an eye..
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clarky
Banned
Go you, but Covid clearly had an effect on the whole industry. I don't know what you do but I'd think anything that creative that's requires a team benefits from everybody being in the same room.
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artsi
Member
Agreed. Excellent games have been released that were developed during COVID. I refuse to give a pass for that reason.
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