LG OLEDs are just superior to Sony's TVs at lower price as well.
Genuine question, any games right now that would benefit from vrr?
I have a ps5 and that xbr tv that should have vrr.
Haven't really noticed any games that drop below 60, which vrr would fix,right?
Plus Android/Google TV>WebOSfeatures? yes. picture quality? no.
LG OLEDs are just superior to Sony's TVs at lower price as well.
true but if you have no use for its recommendations system theyre all just fancy app launchersPlus Android/Google TV>WebOS
Just imagine the clickbait headlines: “the best TV for your Sony PlayStation 5 is, surprisingly, anything but Sony “
This is true regardless of VRR anyway, there is no reason to buy a Sony TV.
The best TV for PS5 is LG OLED.
The best LCD for PS5 is Samsung QN90A
The best budget LCD for PS5 are Hisense/Vizio
features? yes. picture quality? no.
Yes, even picture quality. Game Features, Picture Quality, and Price. It's embarrassing and lazy what Sony has put out last year and this year while maintaining higher prices in comparison to LG. The gig is up sorry.
You have no idea what you are talking aboutI am a huge gsync fan. I've had g-sync monitors for forever. 240hz gsync, 144hz and later even 40-60hz 4k freesync.
And let me tell You what - vrr is almost useless on console. Here is why:
-VRR sucks on HDR tv's. Oleds gamma is correct only at 120hz, lower hz lowers gamma and makes image tiny bit washed out. It can also flicker with big fps change.
-Vrr kinda sucks below 40. It can work as LFC but it's not ideal.
-On pc, wth 40-60hz 4k monitors, I could use RTSS to lock to 58fps global. This way vrr would always be active and not fall back on very slow vsync.
30,40 and 60 locks are way more useful for consoles games
I would much more like the ability for ps5 to ALWAYS output 120hz, even with 60fps games. Just like Ratchet does with 40fps/120hz mode.
Right now, if VRR was enabled, it would do almost nothing. You would "at least" need games with unlocked fps
Not true, when nvidia started their vrr push they actually had to put hardware in the monitors to make vrr work. The reason freesync early demos were all on laptops is because laptops had rudimentary vrr support for power saving features but standalone displays couldn't do it. Fast forward to now and hdmi has made vrr a part of the display controller as standard but a display with a full gsync module (i think they are the gsync ultimate ones) can have less latency, better hdr and ulmb support than gsync and freesync just using the standard display controller.G-Sync is just Nvidia marketing bullshit and tax they put above VRR.
You’re talking about a relatively new display feature for a cutting edge gaming console. Yeah no shit it’s a “first world problem”. That’s kind of a stupid thing to say.This is the most first world problem of all of the first world problems.
I suspect Sony TV owners have already seen this video, but it might provide some insight for anyone wondering about the possible reasons for this PS5 VRR issue.
I don't believe there's anything wrong with VRR support on PS5. It has probably been functioning just fine since launch. BUT, not with Sony TVs that use this Mediatek HDMI 2.1 chip. And Sony doesn't want to enable VRR if it's going to only work on their competitors' TVs but not theirs. They've probably been working with Mediatek all year to improve the firmware on this half-baked chip so their existing TVs will cooperate with the VRR feature of the PS5.
Again, just speculation on my part. I think the PS5 is fine, and the problem is with their TVs.
Sony TVs should support it just fine cause Philips 2021 models use exact same SOC as XH90 and Sony 2021 models and VRR/Freesync is available on their TVs from day one. So it's definitely not a hardware issue.
When you are the child of a donkey punch it is bold to refer to anyone else as stupid.You’re talking about a relatively new display feature for a cutting edge gaming console. Yeah no shit it’s a “first world problem”. That’s kind of a stupid thing to say.
Why in the hell would you go on a tech-related forum and butt into some discussion about X new feature not being delivered as advertised, just to say “h-h-hey guys this is a first world problem”. Yeah, pretty stupid.When you are the child of a donkey punch it is bold to refer to anyone else as stupid.
QN95 is lcd.You have no idea what you are talking about
with a samsung qn95 and a series x vrr is a gamechanger. No gamma issues or flickering. It just works and eliminates framedrops (as long as they are above 40fps)
- Sea of thieves - zero tearing (tears a lot in certain areas otherwise)
- Asscreed - perfect no tearing
- 120fps titles feel locked
even games that perform HORRIBLY like mechwarrior 5 and dark alliance look and play smooth
i actually have 2 series x in the same room but only one tv supports vrr - and the difference is beyond large. Especially most 120fps titles are unplayable without vrr
btw my tv uses freesync premium pro instead of hdmi 2.1 vrr - perhaps this is better?
I would think it is far more foolish to worry about one dumb joke on a tech forum than actually contribute something. I contributed a lame joke. You have contributed little if anything to the discussion, except for the affirmation of your own foolishness.Why in the hell would you go on a tech-related forum and butt into some discussion about X new feature not being delivered as advertised, just to say “h-h-hey guys this is a first world problem”. Yeah, pretty stupid.
And any well-adjusted adult likes a good donkey punch, so double stupid.
Apparently according to many on here , not a lot of people have VRR capable tv’s at the moment so is it a big issue?Honestly I can't care less if Sony has a trouble with VRR and the ps5. It's not absolutely normal to sell to the public an hardware with a feature on the box which doesn't works. I don't think it's even legal. Now I love ps5 but really every launch seems plagued with something like this and as a customer I can't accept it. Hope someone put more pressure to them, because it's not like ps5 cost less for that. If possible let's avoid console war, thanks in advance, it's not my intention. I'm just tired to wait something which should works from the beginning.
I can say the same for LG OLEDs and also cite reviews and users. :/- noticeably better HDR tonemapping
- noticeably better gradient handling
- better near-black details out-of-box
- a bit better out-of-box calibration
- noticeably better upscalling (important for switch and older consoles)
These are all advantages of Sony OLEDs mentioned by multiple reviews and many users.
It looks much better than 1080. Under the hood it probably halves only the vertical resoultion, same as Panasonic 2021 models, and they added some sharpening on top of that in one of the updates.their 120 hz 4k mode looks as blurry as a 1080p mode.
Picture quality?features? yes. picture quality? no.
Picture quality?
LOL.
I have a 900e and the audio arc bombed out from an OS update and they never fixed it. And I got a bunch of dead pixels already. Thankfully I have a 5 year Costco warranty so when it gets near the end I'm going to send it for repairs.
Never had dead pixels ever in any Panasonic CRT or plasma.
Next TV I'm getting is Samsung or LG.
is VRR superior to g-sync?
Lol, why are you comparing flagship A90J to C1? A90J has heatsink which isn't present even on G1.Actually, let's do this. Let's say Sony is "superior" in picture quality.
Put them side by side and tell me the difference is worth the price?
Sony - 55" A90J - $2,799
LG - 55" C1 - $1,799 and it's on sale now for $1,499
While also lacking:
- VRR
- Game Bar
- 4 HDMI 2.1 ports
- 1440p
- Input Lag is atrocious compared to competition
I was waiting for the new OLEDs from LG and Sony. I wanted to get the new Sony OLEDs because they've always been a superb company when it comes to TVs. I just looked at the landscape of features/functions/picture quality and Sony really didn't do much, I was disappointed by them for what they were offering for the money. Think fellas don't follow marketing/brand loyalty because the money is coming out of your pocket.
I still have not seen the benefit of VRR. I know what it does in theory but I choose 60fps option on new games and I don't see any screen tearing or stutter on either my XSX or PS5 on mG OLED.
edit: okay on flight sim I see stutter but thats on the XSX.
Lol, why are you comparing flagship A90J to C1? A90J has heatsink which isn't present even on G1.
Is it a serious question? You can't sell an hardware promising a feature which doesn't works, it's not even a debate. Can we stop to justify any bullshit attitude by the multinational corporations just because we like their products? They shouldn't put on the box the VRR logo and that's it. It's not that complicate. Just imagine if they sold PS4 promising HDR when wasn't supported yet.Did they ever promised u that it will be available at launch and from the get go?
"My" flagship is also used for watching movies. Gaming isn't the only thing you can do on the TV. And are you really calling game bar a major feature? Or 1440p support when the TV is 4k? Those are nice to have but far from 'major' and being a dealbreaker.Because your flagship is lacking major FEATURES for someone wanting an OLED for gaming. But here is the A80J, it's not like the story is any better.
LG - 55" C1 - $1,799 and it's on sale now for $1,499
Sony - 55" A80J - $2,299 and it's on sale now for $1,799
How are dead pixels not a picture quality issue?How is ARC and dead pixels (which can happen any time on any display) picture quality issue?
CRTs and plasma were completely different tech.