ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
My ignore list is 90% "something we've been complaining about for years is now suddenly ok because console warzzz" people. so transparent no point in even speaking with people like that
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HDTVTEST: Sorry, but Horizon Forbidden West's Gorgeous Visuals are TAINTED by Distracting Picture Quality Bugs
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My ignore list is 90% "something we've been complaining about for years is now suddenly ok because console warzzz" people. so transparent no point in even speaking with people like that
crazepharmacist
Member
Wait, wait, so Vincent is only going to do a video on recommended HDR settings for Forbidden West if this video gets 100k views????????
VFXVeteran
Banned
I'm sorry to hear GG having difficulty with the PS5 version's image quality vs. performance. It seems to have many gamers here a little frustrated with not getting the excellent detailed world without unacceptable cuts in image quality or framerate. If they can't fix the issues, many of us might have to wait for the PC version unfortunately.
The Cockatrice
Member
Sucks to be blind I guess.
Bonsaibäumchen
Member
Or you could simply try it out on PS5. Because not everybody seems to experience these issues.
Although I won't expect you to do it as its quite clear what your intention is posting this paragraph here.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Had to adjust HDR down to around -6 otherwise the image is washed out.
I don't think the shimmering issue is what people are thinking in this forum because of that thread. What's being described in the vid with it going darker in motion isn't what I would typically call shimmering. I think shimmering and what has been fixed is the plants flashing in and out of view or flashing black because the texture is showing then not showing.But it's weird all the same, if you have a look at Guerrilla's tweet you'll see a lot of people saying that the hot fix has done nothing for them. Since I haven't had the opportunity to try the game myself and I've only watched some videos on YouTube I could not tell, to be honest.
Anyway I hope Guerrilla will fixed soon, whatever it is.
Performance mode uses VRS anyway which is better than DRS.
StateofMajora
Banned
Another early access game. I think the first game got like 50 patches as well.
VFXVeteran
Banned
No intention whatsoever. It was a genuine comment.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
There shouldn't even be a performance mode in this game in my opinion. It just ruins all their hard work making a very detailed game, but then people go and ruin that by switching to a low-res shimmery experience. You literally lose so much of the fine details by doing that.
I tried out performance mode for a few minutes and it was like playing the PS4 game again. I didn't buy a PS5 to play PS4-looking games.
Bulletbrain
Member
Look I get that you prefer 30fps. But, the fact is, most people prefer to play at 60 frames. You can check out any polls that people ran here about the matter, the option for 60fps/high frames ALWAYS got most votes. The solution is not to eliminate 60fps mode, but to make it better.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
I dunno about that. MOST people will play at whatever the default is. Also, around here at least, it seems like MOST people prefer the 30fps mode on HFW since it looks so much better than performance mode.
Performance mode seems like an afterthought. Like they designed the game around a very detailed 4K picture, but then they're like... well, some people won't buy it if there's no 60fps mode, so here you go. Drop the resolution down to something ridiculously blurry and call it a day. It's almost like no optimization was done for 60fps.
I still think there should've only been one mode. Playing on performance is like watching a movie in full-screen instead of wide screen. You're not really getting the experience that they intended. You're losing out on lots of detail
Bulletbrain
Member
^check any of the recent polls here. There is a clear preference for 60fps. Sure some people will stick to whatever the default is and won't even know there are options, but people in the know (like posters here) who knows the pros and cons of both modes, prefer 60fps according to the polls. HFW is a case where the game has some issues in the performance mode. But I don't see a single reason to can the mode. What everyone wants is it to be better. Use native 1440p instead of CBR. Have a better anti aliasing solution to eliminate shimmering (many games already have far better AA at similar resolutions). Just saying to drop performance mode is incredibly short sighted.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Why is this game such a shimmery mess in fps mode?
Lost Legacy looks fine in 1440P but Horizon jeez looks like complete ass.
Lost Legacy looks fine in 1440P but Horizon jeez looks like complete ass.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Because 1440p is 3.7 million pixels and 1800cb is 2.8 million pixels. It is right in the middle of 1080p 2.1 million pixels and 1440p. The game might also have some other DRS techniques going on bringing it all the way down to 1080p. Or its the checkerboard artifacts on the foliage causing extra shimmering. Native 1296p which is around 2.7 million pixels might actually be better in this scenario.
Neogaf isnt a good measure of things. You would be better off posting what developers have seen considering they track all that stuff now. (without permission I might add)
It's a HDR issue and as far as I'm aware DF stopped doing HDR stuff ages ago.
GAF isnt representative. People here literally dont even touch the biggest games in the industry
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
What the fuck has this got to do with sony fanboys and green rats? There is a 30fps and 60fps mode in this game. You can choose what you want and some people prefer 30fps with better visuals. What's the problem with that? what's it got to do with fanboys? I mean "green rats" always talk about FS2020 visuals and that's 30fps with no choice. Suddenly 30fps was 'ok' there too?
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
What the fuck are you even talking about? Get your fucking head out of your ass and stop trying to make this about console wars.
Anyone who has played the game including DF and HDTVTech has pointed out just how awful 60 fps looks in this game. This has nothing to do with 30 fps vs 60 fps. It is about how poor the game looks in 60 fps and how stuttery the game looks in 30 fps. It looks off in BOTH modes.
How in the fuck does some watch that video and make it about console wars is beyond me. I swear to god, some of you people need to be in a mental asylum.
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Mikey Jr.
Member
I SWEAR TO GOD ON MY LIFE
There is something wrong with the 30fps on my tv.
I dont know what it is. I have the xbr900h.
I can not play horizon at 30fps on it on my PS5. It has this stutter or something to it. Everyone is saying "30fps is fine in horizon. Youre just blind"
Its legit pissing me off, because on PS4 and my old tv, I used to play 30fps just fine. And I want to play at 30fps because horizon just looks so much better, but I cant. And I fucked around with my settings, but it always has this stutter that I just cant get rid of.......
/crying
There is something wrong with the 30fps on my tv.
I dont know what it is. I have the xbr900h.
I can not play horizon at 30fps on it on my PS5. It has this stutter or something to it. Everyone is saying "30fps is fine in horizon. Youre just blind"
Its legit pissing me off, because on PS4 and my old tv, I used to play 30fps just fine. And I want to play at 30fps because horizon just looks so much better, but I cant. And I fucked around with my settings, but it always has this stutter that I just cant get rid of.......
/crying
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Spaceman292
Banned
Well, if those obsessive wankers say it then I guess you HAVE to think it too.Literally every tech reviewer is saying this.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nah, I dont have to think it. I just have to SEE it. You just choose not to believe your own eyes or listen to expert analysis and just live in your own bizarre alternate reality where things that look bad in real life look great in your reality. It's called delusion.
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Imtjnotu
Member
id rather have the 1440p option but dumb ass sony hasnt given us that yet
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Try disabling motion blur and set camera sensitivity to minimum on both horizontal and vertical axis. It made the game playable for me in 30 fps. I had the same issues.
Putonahappyface
Member
That's the exact settings I'm using and visuals are much better.
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120hz TV? FS has a similar issue it has some wierd stutter on 120hz TVs I think because it doubles or triples the actual framerate. Have you also tried this
PS5's home screen, head to 'Settings', which can be found in the top right-hand corner. Select 'Screen and Video' and go to 'Video Output'. You can then select whether to enable or disable 120Hz output under 'Enable 120Hz Output'.
Disable it if it's enabled and see if it's smoother.
thatJohann
Member
The default HDR is def not ideal, saw the following HDR settings for using HGIG and gaming on an LG C1 or CX OLED and they do make the game look so much better. Try this:
- Brightness: - 2
- Shadows: 0 (default)
- Highlights: - 8
Mikey Jr.
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The x900h is a 120 fps tv that actually supports 4k 120 hz output. The first Sony tv. This is very interesting. I had no idea the tv would do that. All I know is that my LG CX's 4k 120 hz mode lowers the frametime by almost 30% at the same refresh rate so I always play at 120 hz.
I will give this a shot, but right now, outside of when its snowing or raining, 30 fps feels much much smoother than it did before i disabled motion blur and camera sensitivity. I think Vincent is on to something here with the camera movement causing brightness fluctuations. It is far more noticeable on OLEDS than LEDs like the Sony x900h. I have that tv too. I will see if its better on that tv.
GymWolf
Member
I love when you talk dirty
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Saw this on era. Just insane how much detail is lost when going from 30 fps to the 60 fps performance mode. And this doesnt even show the shimmering that plagues all foliage scenes in gameplay.
Zoom in on Aloy's face but even the armored dude near the camera has all of its details blurred out. There is no way this is 1800p cb. Feels like 1080p at best.
Zoom in on Aloy's face but even the armored dude near the camera has all of its details blurred out. There is no way this is 1800p cb. Feels like 1080p at best.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I have the PS5 hooked up to that TV and did not have any stuttering issues. I was actually quite impressed at how smooth the 30 was compared to other 30fps games.
Strange how it varies, however.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol Just having a bad morning. Woke up to 10 LOL reactions to my post which was trying to HELP people suffering from stuttering in the 30 fps mode. It worked for me. It worked for my friends. Figured id share it here. I will never understand why people take offense to others going out of their way to help them. Then you have others trying to make this a 30 fps vs 60 fps issue when 90% of the video is about how the 30 fps option in the game isnt good enough either. It's like people dont even read or watch the OP anymore, and just go off on their soapbox.I love when you talk dirty
Have you played miles morales and ratchet and clank?
JLB
Banned
As a non angloparlant, its quite normal that people confuses “excuse me” with “sorry”.
Mikey Jr.
Member
I know. Thats why I think I'm crazy lol.
Yeah, but at 60fps lol. I should try those and see. But I would need to download them again which will take time.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Going from 60 to 30 in Spider-Man is much more jarring to me framerate wise than this game. At least from what I remember.
I will have to try it again.
