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[OrionNebula]

This isn't true. You can perfect dodge all of his attacks, even right after he hits you with the first or second punch of his combo, you can still dodge the next attack during Jill's stumble animation. Also, when you are knocked on the ground, you can roll right or left instead of laying there.

Glad to see you were there to observe MY gameplay, and came up with a statement you’re 100% confident in, without any doubts, snowflake

I guess me pushing the (right) buttons (I’ve been dodging all night to get better at it, even before getting to Nemesis) on the controller and not seeing Jill react in any way at all is just a pure figment of my imagination

Since I assume you programmed the game based on your statement, please file my complaint under ‘’git gud’’

 

[Gavin Stevens]

A few things bugging me right now:

- quick time events seem to not work. I’m talking about zombie grab mash A moments. Nothing happens? Even when the bar fills up and it completes, it still does nothing.

- the Xbox one X version, what’s the deal? 30fps? Why is it dipping so low, it feels awful. I’ve heard the pro version is 1080/60? Hmm...

- Nemesis is a total twat and I don’t like him. He’s not difficult, he’s just annoying. Mr X never ran but this guy does. Plus he teleports. I’ve seen him twice now fall down quickly from the SKY. He usually jumps down poles and things, but I‘ve been out in the open up high and turned just as he fell from the sky. Terrible.

- The dodge stuff in general is animation hell. Rather than blend the dodge into a run, it stops all momentum. So you dodge, and Jill will just stop dead for a moment? That’s... bad. She should keep her momentum.

- the scale of some things is totally whack, bins that are almost as tall as you, bottles the size of your leg, and cars that make you look like a 5 year old. They obviously upped the scale of these things due to being more out in the open, but... it’s just weird looking.

So far it’s no RE2. It’s good, and I’ll ply the shit out of it, but... it’s just not as good. But disappointed atm, to be honest.

Of course I won’t make my full opinion off a demo, but still... sad face...

 

[Needlecrash]

Here's something.... it seems they toned down/totally disabled the corpse interaction in RE3. Compared to RE2, it feels really lacking. It's not a dealbreaker, just an odd decision. Maybe to perhaps keep performance up? I made a quick and dirty video showing RE3 and RE2's gore systems:

I noticed that too. I wonder if it's because the demo build could be from an older build.

 

[Aggelos]

- the Xbox one X version, what’s the deal? 30fps? Why is it dipping so low, it feels awful. I’ve heard the pro version is 1080/60? Hmm...

I think the deal is the following (although implied): The sales comparison between PS4 and Xbox One consoles.

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Probably the folks over there in Japan (Capcom Development Division 1, K2 Inc, M-Two Inc.) know that the largest userbase of those who will buy the game are in the group of PS4, PS4Pro and PC users, hence they wouldn't push the boat out to harness all that Xbox One X power. Thus the Xbox One X version might have taken a back seat here.....

Platinum veteran revealed as Resident Evil 3 director | VGC

Kiyohiko Sakata also worked on original PlayStation instalments…

www.videogameschronicle.com

Another explanation would be that the demo is based on an earlier build, and issues regarding frame-rates on each system/version hadn't been addressed at that juncture.

 

[Alphagear]

From what I have of the demo it looks and feels superior to RE2 in every aspect. Cant wait.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Aggelos thats a possibility, and wouldn’t be the first time, Monster Hunter world was much worse on X over Pro at launch, from what I remember, as well as others.

Which would be a shame after how good RE2 was.

At the very least we should get a 1080/option, so it’s not all bad.

 

[MarkyG]

It's beautiful and buttery smooth @ 1440p on the PC. A decent port actually. Very much like RE2 (exactly the same UI, etc, as you'd expect).

 

[Aggelos]

Here's something.... it seems they toned down/totally disabled the corpse interaction in RE3. Compared to RE2, it feels really lacking. It's not a dealbreaker, just an odd decision. Maybe to perhaps keep performance up? I made a quick and dirty video showing RE3 and RE2's gore systems:

It could be that demo is based off of the toned down Japanese version (the D-rated one).
You know, the people who made this game are Japanese folks, and in Japan, ever since the release of Biohazard 7, there have been two available versions: the D-Rated and the Z-rated (Same goes for Biohazard RE: 2 and Biohazard RE:3)

• D-Rating : Ages 17 and up
• Z-Rating : Ages 18 and up ONLY

Computer Entertainment Rating Organization - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mind you, even the Z version of Biohazard 7 and Biohazard 2 Remake features censorship, here and there, when compared to the western counterparts.





D-Rated version

Z-Rated Version

 

[IKSTUGA]

Fucking amazing demo, beat it like 10 times with a buddy. Hopefully they'll do something about the performance though, because it wasn't good on the X.

 

[Aggelos]

Hopefully they'll do something about the performance though, because it wasn't good on the X.

They did a great work on RE7 Xbox One X patch





Regarding RE2Remake, odd frame-rate skips and dips, here and there on the Xbox One X.
Moreover, XBX had some dips at certain points for no particular reason, while PS4Pro didn't.

 

[Lux R7]

loved the demo, and the game looks amazing in 4k

 

[Labolas]

I might be alone in this but I don't find this Nu Jill attractive in fact she's got like an uncanny valley going on. Other than that game is fun

 

[Werewolf Jones]

People complaining about Nemesis.

You can be honest, you never played the original.

Anything else is valid though with the dodge mechanics and shit, since that's also like the original.

 

[Aggelos]

People complaining about Nemesis.

You can be honest, you never played the original.

Anything else is valid though with the dodge mechanics and shit, since that's also like the original.

You can say that again!

Some people expect this to be RE8, you know, a new installment with no stalker-chaser type enemy in it (like Mr. X and Nemesis) conforming to the enjoyment of the mainstream games of the present day (and all the fun that they give to modern playa)

Not only have they not played the original, but they probably never lived the '90s, to see the golden era of survival horror games that spanned from 1996 (starting with RE1 in March of 1996) 'til the end of the that decade.
They don't know what RE2 and RE3 Nemesis were all about. How they upped the standards, and how they pushed the envelope given that they were made on PS1 hardware (with all its limitations) and given that the survival horror genre was something entirely new back then.

Resident Evil 3 demo coming March 19th | Demo & Resistance Open Beta Trailer

This. 4/5 headshot to drop one is retarded, then if you want them to stay down you're looking at 6+ rounds. Looks gorgeous, but I'll pass until I can get it on deep discount with some of the unlimited ammo weapons. Played through 2 that way and found it much more enjoyable. It was completely...

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[Northeastmonk]

Spamming the quick dodge got me past Nemesis. Just running was pointless. I have no idea why. I tried putting a shotgun shell in his chest and that was pointless.

 

[dan76]

Played it a second time trying to nail the slow motion dodge. Works most of the time, way easier than in the original. With Nemesis I unloaded three shotgun shells to him, that downed him briefly, then a grenade which downed him for longer. Plenty of time to escape.

So the demo throws ammo at you and... I think you're supposed to use it all. I killed everything, downed Nemesis twice and still had a load of ammo left over. He could ruin the game, not sure yet, it depends on how often he hangs around. I think it would be better if once downed that was it and he took off until the next scripted sequence - but he just comes back. What's the point. THE ORIGINAL WAS NOT LIKE THIS. Yes, I've played it many times, you had a choice, in this there is no choice.

Zombies seem a bit weaker overall and with the dot sight I was getting a few critical hits. The environments and atmosphere are great, the eerie music, gunshots in the distance, it's amazing. Only found 10 if those heads.

Not going to play it again, I can wait until release.

 

[brian0057]

Enjoyed the demo quite a bit... right up until Nemesis makes his unwanted appearance and I'm reminded of why Resident Evil 3 is one of the weakest games in the series.

 

[SuperGooey]

Glad to see you were there to observe MY gameplay, and came up with a statement you’re 100% confident in, without any doubts, snowflake

I guess me pushing the (right) buttons (I’ve been dodging all night to get better at it, even before getting to Nemesis) on the controller and not seeing Jill react in any way at all is just a pure figment of my imagination

Since I assume you programmed the game based on your statement, please file my complaint under ‘’git gud’’

We played the same demo, so you can't blame the game. Obviously, it can't be your fault... It must have been your controller. Yeah, that's it.

 

[OrionNebula]

We played the same demo, so you can't blame the game. Obviously, it can't be your fault... It must have been your controller. Yeah, that's it.

Obviously every game is played exactly the same way for absolutely everybody, at all time. No exception!
If I get a glitch, it’s absolutely impossible you’re not getting the very same one, correct? No, that’s just impossible, right?

Is that what you are saying?
Because it sure feels like it’s what you are saying

A demo with bugs and glitches in it? Now THAT would be an impossibility I suppose... right... yeah... ok...

 

[Germuso]

Physics ragdolls are gone, and gore is tone down.

The game is cool, but it´s a step back in gameplay.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Explored the Demo and took me 39 minutes to complete. Game feels „strange“ Nemesis too.

RE2 Remake Demo felt more „familar“

Felt the same way. Doesn't feel like RE3 at all. RE2 Remake was exactly how i remembered RE2 to be.

 

[Caffeine]

Physics ragdolls are gone, and gore is tone down.

The game is cool, but it´s a step back in gameplay.

it could be months old demo tbh, we dont know if any of that will be in the final game or not till release. demo def lacks a lot of polish.

 

[Kronos9x]

The reason why RE2 Remake feels more like RE2 is because it's easier to Remake since it's basically only the RPD and the labs.

RE3 is different and that's why they never tried to remake it before. It's the city, not just one location.

 

[Germuso]

it could be months old demo tbh, we dont know if any of that will be in the final game or not till release. demo def lacks a lot of polish.

I think it´s because performacne and it won´t change., re2 demo was exactly like final game.

 

[SuperGooey]

Obviously every game is played exactly the same way for absolutely everybody, at all time. No exception!
If I get a glitch, it’s absolutely impossible you’re not getting the very same one, correct? No, that’s just impossible, right?

Is that what you are saying?
Because it sure feels like it’s what you are saying

A demo with bugs and glitches in it? Now THAT would be an impossibility I suppose... right... yeah... ok...

I'm thinking you're the glitch.

 

[OrionNebula]

I'm thinking you're the glitch.

Ok, little man. You done, now? Or do you want to keep going?

 

[SuperGooey]

Ok, little man. You done, now? Or do you want to keep going?

Let's keep going. I don't want you to leave; I'm lonely.

Anyway, I really think the RE3 will lack the polish of RE2make, but will overall be the better remake for me. Just knowing that all the areas from the original are returning is a huge sigh of relief, and while enemy variation is something I'm still worried about, I think it is possible R3make will surpass RE2make's bestiary.

 

[dilbag]

I can not wait to play Remake 3, im super pumped for it!

 

[SuperGooey]

Possible crafting table for more advanced ammo crafting?

St. Michael statue, possibly located in what looks like a courtyard or park in front of the St. Michael's Clock Tower.

 

[Kenpachii]

K figured out the 100 fps cap was my rivatuner i messed around with lul. anyway 140+ fps at 1080p, 100 fps at 1440p and 55 fps at 4k seems solid.

 

[PcPlasticFuzz]

Aggelos thanks so very much. I never played Resident Evil 3. Nor any game in the 90's your absolutely correct. I started playing games just this last week. RE3 Demo was my first time holding a controller.

The demo and game will be/are perfect. People complaining are wrong. You are right. I'm just thankful your here to make us see the light.

What would the world be without people like you. I salute you.

 

[Javthusiast]

As the title and thread says, its an open beta for everyone. No requirements.

Open to everyone or open to everyone with Plus? My sub ran out a week ago.

 

[ebullientprism]

Even if scary games arent my thing, this looks so good. RE fans are lucky as fuck. Imagine getting 2 ultra high quality remakes of your favorite games.

I would kill for someone to redo some of my favorite games with this much love and care.

 

[SuperGooey]

Open to everyone or open to everyone with Plus? My sub ran out a week ago.

Yeah. Are there any online mutliplayer games you can play without Plus?

 

[molasar]

RE fans are lucky as fuck. Imagine getting 2 ultra high quality remakes of your favorite games.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

The classic RE 1-3 (PS1 versions) are my favorite games but those new RE(R) games are nothing special IMO.

There are just two camps of fans. One which likes the new games and the other which does not.

 

[Aggelos]

Aggelos thanks so very much. I never played Resident Evil 3. Nor any game in the 90's your absolutely correct. I started playing games just this last week. RE3 Demo was my first time holding a controller.

The demo and game will be/are perfect. People complaining are wrong. You are right. I'm just thankful your here to make us see the light.

What would the world be without people like you. I salute you.

Don't mention it. I salute you too,
Be sure to check Alex Aniel's look-back on the making of the original Resident Evil 3 Nemesis back in 1998-1999.

Resident Evil 3 was a spinoff until Capcom changed its mind at the last minute

Look back at the making of Capcom’s 1999 hit

www.polygon.com

 

[Needlecrash]

I enjoyed the demo. I didn't like it as much as 2 remake but it's great nevertheless. I still don't feel adjusted to the movement and the perfect dodges will take some time to get adjusted to. More practice is needed. I kept the Steam pre-order avd cancelled my Xbox One pre-order.

Also, Nemesis is mad fast!

 

[ebullientprism]

Nothing could be further from the truth.

The classic RE 1-3 (PS1 versions) are my favorite games but those new RE(R) games are nothing special IMO.

There are just two camps of fans. One which likes the new games and the other which does not.

I understand that everyone wont like it but I would imagine (just by the success of the game and online impressions) that those people would be in the minority.

And even if you dont, I still think most would agree that a lot of love and care went into the remakes. They arent cash grabs. Look at what Blizzard did as a worst case scenario.

 

[PcPlasticFuzz]

Don't mention it. I salute you too,
Be sure to check Alex Aniel's look-back on the making of the original Resident Evil 3 Nemesis back in 1998-1999.

Resident Evil 3 was a spinoff until Capcom changed its mind at the last minute

Look back at the making of Capcom’s 1999 hit

www.polygon.com

Is it as riveting as your posts? I mean if it is I'll be all over that bad boy!!

 

[brian0057]

REmake > REmake 2 > REmake 3.

 

[SuperGooey]

REmake > REmake 2 > REmake 3.

You've played all of R3make? Nice! What did the Clock Tower look like? Is the Grave Digger in it?

 

[molasar]

I understand that everyone wont like it but I would imagine (just by the success of the game and online impressions) that those people would be in the minority.

And even if you dont, I still think most would agree that a lot of love and care went into the remakes. They arent cash grabs. Look at what Blizzard did as a worst case scenario.

The success and online impressions do not make a game a good game. A good example of it is that the majority on Steam decided that a game like Terminator: Resistance is on the same level like Doom: Eternal or better than Rage 2.

Let's imagine a situation that I did not play in the 90s RE games at all and I am new to the franchise. What could convince me to play the new RE games or choose them over Dead Space series which was the only series to scratch my RE itch after REmake (GCN)? What are their selling aspects?

Also I do not see any love and care that went into those new RE games. You do not do this by alienating a fanbase of originals. And what criteria do you use for assessing if a game is a cash grab or not? Regarding Blizzard. The last game I enjoyed from them was Diablo on PS1 because I prefer a controller over mouse.

 

[brian0057]

You've played all of R3make? Nice! What did the Clock Tower look like? Is the Grave Digger in it?

The demo was alright. Not as good as the demo for REmake 2 nor as the full game.
That slow mo crap Jill does when dodging is annoying and condescending as hell. I spent the first 10 minutes of the demo diving into the settings trying to disable it to no avail.
And then there's Mr. X... I mean, Nemesis. He's an annoyance that turns the game into a chore. He's not menacing nor is he terrifying.
He sucked in the original game and he sucks now. The original Resident Evil 3 ranks pretty low on my personal ranking of the series for that reason.

 

[SuperGooey]

Let's imagine a situation that I did not play in the 90s RE games at all and I am new to the franchise. What could convince me to play the new RE games or choose them over Dead Space series which was the only series to scratch my RE itch after REmake (GCN)? What are their selling aspects?

*looks at post history*

Wait. You don't like the RE2 remake? You think Dead Space is better?!

I'm totally shocked.

The demo was alright. Not as good as the demo for REmake 2 nor as the full game.
That slow mo crap Jill does when dodging is annoying and condescending as hell. I spent the first 10 minutes of the demo diving into the settings trying to disable it to no avail.
And then there's Mr. X... I mean, Nemesis. He's an annoyance that turns the game into a chore. He's not menacing nor is he terrifying.
He sucked in the original game and he sucks now. The original Resident Evil 3 ranks pretty low on my personal ranking of the series for that reason.

You feel that the perfect dodge is condescending to you? Interesting. You are welcome to form an opinion based solely on a 5 minute slice of gameplay, but I don't think your opinion is anywhere near as valid as someone who has played the whole game, learned the mechanics, speak etc. Not sure what your intent of posting your rankings were, but I've probably given it more attention that it deserved.


Anyway, modders are already hard at work! R3make Jill her S.T.A.R.S. outfit. She looks great in it!

source

 

[molasar]

*looks at post history*

Wait. You don't like the RE2 remake? You think Dead Space is better?!

I'm totally shocked.

Yes, IMO Dead Space games are better action shooters with elements of horror than RE2(R) and RE3(R)Demo are.

Even if I try to look at RE2(R) and RE3(R)Demo like the classics do not exist at all, I find their design as games outdated in comparison. That is why I would prefer Capcom to just make a complete reboot built around the best gameplay mechanics and their loops than being stuck with stuff that does not make sense anymore in this new form.

 

[brian0057]

You feel that the perfect dodge is condescending to you? Interesting. You are welcome to form an opinion based solely on a 5 minute slice of gameplay

Unless the mechanic suddenly changes halfway through the game, I'm pretty sure it will remain the same throughout the whole game.

You are welcome to form an opinion based solely on a 5 minute slice of gameplay, but I don't think your opinion is anywhere near as valid as someone who has played the whole game, learned the mechanics, speak etc. Not sure what your intent of posting your rankings were, but I've probably given it more attention that it deserved.

Yeah, it's not like a demo is supposed to sell me on the game.
"Oh, but the full game is totally not like that." Then why release a demo that's nothing like the final product. The REmake 2 demo and the final product are the same.

Anyway, modders are already hard at work! R3make Jill her S.T.A.R.S. outfit. She looks great in it!

source

Looks nice. Though I'm not one to mod games not made by Bethesda.

 

[Vaelka]

Enjoyed the demo quite a bit... right up until Nemesis makes his unwanted appearance and I'm reminded of why Resident Evil 3 is one of the weakest games in the series.

You can just mod him out later anyways.
I did that in RE2 in some of my later playthroughs, I've tried a whole bunch of things like modding out Mr X alone or everything except Zombies etc.
Just playing the game with Zombies alone is pretty fun altho I wish there was a mod to replace all enemies with them instead of just removing them.

 

[SuperGooey]

Unless the mechanic suddenly changes halfway through the game, I'm pretty sure it will remain the same throughout the whole game.

Yeah, it's not like a demo is supposed to sell me on the game.
"Oh, but the full game is totally not like that." Then why release a demo that's nothing like the final product. The REmake 2 demo and the final product were the same.

Let me ask you something:

By simply posting "REmake>RE2make>RE3make", what were you expected? Did you expect not to be called out for only (I can assume) playing 2 of the 3 games? Doesn't seem like a productive post to me.

Demos, heck, even just watching gameplay footage can be enough to form an opinion on whether or not you will enjoy a game based on your personal preferences. That's fine. Just don't think your opinion is as objective or valid as someone who has actually played through that game. And don't expect people to discredit opinions on a final build of a game based on a demo. I think that's fair.

Yes, IMO Dead Space games are better action shooters with elements of horror than RE2(R) and RE3(R)Demo are.

Even if I try to look at RE2(R) and RE3(R)Demo like the classics do not exist at all, I find their design as games outdated in comparison. That is why I would prefer Capcom to just make a complete reboot built around the best gameplay mechanics and their loops than being stuck with stuff that does not make sense anymore in this new form.

What do you think the RE2 and RE3 remakes do well based on what you've played or seen?

 

[OrionNebula]

There’s already speedruns of the demo

Finished in less than 1 minute and 50 sec

 

[molasar]

What do you think the RE2 and RE3 remakes do well based on what you've played or seen?

RE2(R) - damage system of body parts, graphics-high level of details, some scripted dog behaviour (e.g. climbing basketball court fence)

RE3(R) - damage system of body parts (even if worse than in RE2[R]), graphics-high level of details