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Pokémon Sun and Moon Starters Revealed. Releases November 18th 2016.

Salvadora

Member
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I want this now

It's so bad it's good
 

Seil

Member
The sulfur symbol on it's face.

The symbol on its forehead is pretty generically used on tigers. It could be entirely coincidence that taking into account the eyes(which are disconnected from said symbol, by the way) you get something roughly resembling the Leviathan Cross.

Also sulfur in and of itself, not really toxic. Hydrogen Sulfide etc, on the other hand sure.

Edit: I mean, I wouldn't entirely put it past them to be combining the tiger reference and the Leviathan Cross here, but I would be much more likely to suspect it was the case if the red around the eyes and the symbol on the forehead weren't separated.
 

MajorMane

Member
I don't like the idea of Fire/Poison for Litten in its current state because the description of oils in its fur is really only there to explain how its fire works. Lines up with the hairballs as fireballs.
 

Kinsei

Banned
To me, that's just a Ridley in the cloud scenario.

But I do want Poison/Fire

The symbol on its forehead is pretty generically used on tigers. It could be entirely coincidence that taking into account the eyes(which are disconnected from said symbol, by the way) you get something roughly resembling the Leviathan Cross.

Also sulfur in and of itself, not really toxic. Hydrogen Sulfide etc, on the other hand sure.

Edit: I mean, I wouldn't entirely put it past them to be combining the tiger reference and the Leviathan Cross here, but I would be much more likely to suspect it was the case if the red around the eyes and the symbol on the forehead weren't separated.

I was only saying why some people think it could be Fire/Poison, I didn't say I agreed with it. I do want it to be Fire/Poison though since it would be a new typing.
 
Maybe since Litten attack with furballs cover in fire, he could eventually cover them in his vomit (since that is actually what hes doing) and justify a Poison theme.
 

V-Faction

Member
The fake evolution of Popplio is a brilliant compromise in design.

- Popplio is yet another marine mammal. There's already been several with Seel/Dewgong, Spheal/Sealeo/Walreign, and Oshawott/Dewott/Samurott. So right off the bat you need to differentiate it enough from those existing Pokemon. Maybe you don't choose a sea lion or a walrus, but instead something like an elephant seal.

- Popplio is cute and friendly-looking. It isn't exactly neutral or indifferent as designs go, it actually has a some pep. One might see it as a critical elemental to keep throughout evolution stages to keep a happy go-lucky smile.

- Popplio has a small and sleek shape, like a real seal. Compare it with the chubby and dopey looking Oshawott, Popllio has got a closer real-world resemblance. You can't bulk it up too much otherwise it destroys the qualities of the first stage. If you're a fast starter from birth, chances are you'll be a fast starter all grown up.

- The clown motif may or may not have some huge significance, but how much it should be relied upon comes down to the original intent of the designers. It's clear Venusaur wanted to have a giant plant on his back but would you guessed that Charizard would have wings or Blastoise would have cannons? How much style versus how much substance is anyone's guess at this point.

- The clumsy Typing vulnerabilities on the website mean that folks were scoping out a -Fighting look for the evolution. The majority of those Pokemon are bipedal, so how does one get a flippered mammal to resemble a fighter without straying too far from the original concept? The fake probably got the closest. I'd say, if the Types hold true, we'll see something similar in the official reveal.

In other words, that's how you end up with an Insane Clown Posse Strong Man Upright Seal.
 

Metaroo

Member
The Litten final evolution design makes no sense. Unless there is some weird detail thats added when its animated.

I would take Pooplio if he turned into the ICP guys.
 

RagnarokX

Member
Being based on Hawaii, there will probably be a loco moco pokemon. It will look like a hamburger patty topped with a fried egg and brown gravy surfing on Hawaii's traditional native dish: a styrofoam tray.
 

Neiteio

Member
i like the creepy clown.
No joke, the creepy clown is the most convincing thing I've seen so far. I get the same feelings from it that I got when I first saw Serperior, Emboar, Samurott, Chesnaught, Delphox and Greninja — feelings of surprise, but that it's real. Has someone confirmed it's a fake?
 
The fake evolution of Popplio is a brilliant compromise in design.

- Popplio is yet another marine mammal. There's already been several with Seel/Dewgong, Spheal/Sealeo/Walreign, and Oshawott/Dewott/Samurott. So right off the bat you need to differentiate it enough from those existing Pokemon. Maybe you don't choose a sea lion or a walrus, but instead something like an elephant seal.

- Popplio is cute and friendly-looking. It isn't exactly neutral or indifferent as designs go, it actually has a some pep. One might see it as a critical elemental to keep throughout evolution stages to keep a happy go-lucky smile.

- Popplio has a small and sleek shape, like a real seal. Compare it with the chubby and dopey looking Oshawott, Popllio has got a closer real-world resemblance. You can't bulk it up too much otherwise it destroys the qualities of the first stage. If you're a fast starter from birth, chances are you'll be a fast starter all grown up.

- The clown motif may or may not have some huge significance, but how much it should be relied upon comes down to the original intent of the designers. It's clear Venusaur wanted to have a giant plant on his back but would you guessed that Charizard would have wings or Blastoise would have cannons? How much style versus how much substance is anyone's guess at this point.

- The clumsy Typing vulnerabilities on the website mean that folks were scoping out a -Fighting look for the evolution. The majority of those Pokemon are bipedal, so how does one get a flippered mammal to resemble a fighter without straying too far from the original concept? The fake probably got the closest. I'd say, if the Types hold true, we'll see something similar in the official reveal.

In other words, that's how you end up with an Insane Clown Posse Strong Man Upright Seal.

I'm hoping that if this is a fake, the artist behind it will reveal themselves, because I would love to see what kind of other stuff they draw.
 

MajorMane

Member
The fake evolution of Popplio is a brilliant compromise in design.

- Popplio is yet another marine mammal. There's already been several with Seel/Dewgong, Spheal/Sealeo/Walreign, and Oshawott/Dewott/Samurott. So right off the bat you need to differentiate it enough from those existing Pokemon. Maybe you don't choose a sea lion or a walrus, but instead something like an elephant seal.

- Popplio is cute and friendly-looking. It isn't exactly neutral or indifferent as designs go, it actually has a some pep. One might see it as a critical elemental to keep throughout evolution stages to keep a happy go-lucky smile.

- Popplio has a small and sleek shape, like a real seal. Compare it with the chubby and dopey looking Oshawott, Popllio has got a closer real-world resemblance. You can't bulk it up too much otherwise it destroys the qualities of the first stage. If you're a fast starter from birth, chances are you'll be a fast starter all grown up.

- The clown motif may or may not have some huge significance, but how much it should be relied upon comes down to the original intent of the designers. It's clear Venusaur wanted to have a giant plant on his back but would you guessed that Charizard would have wings or Blastoise would have cannons? How much style versus how much substance is anyone's guess at this point.

- The clumsy Typing vulnerabilities on the website mean that folks were scoping out a -Fighting look for the evolution. The majority of those Pokemon are bipedal, so how does one get a flippered mammal to resemble a fighter without straying too far from the original concept? The fake probably got the closest. I'd say, if the Types hold true, we'll see something similar in the official reveal.

In other words, that's how you end up with an Insane Clown Posse Strong Man Upright Seal.

Overall, I really like that design for adding in a "strong-man" aspect to it. It's small feet are also reminiscent of a punching bag clown to me. Like, it'll get it and knocked back, but then pop right back up.

I like Rowlet's too. It's got the strong-looking feet that are supposed to be used for kicking. It sorta transforms into a knife-thrower of a carnival/circus, while still maintaining its almost ring-leader appearance. (Bow-tie, vest, but no top hat.)

And then Litten's is just a panther. Seems less inspired, unless I'm missing something.
 

Neiteio

Member
Overall, I really like that design for adding in a "strong-man" aspect to it. It's small feet are also reminiscent of a punching bag clown to me. Like, it'll get it and knocked back, but then pop right back up.

I like Rowlet's too. It's got the strong-looking feet that are supposed to be used for kicking. It sorta transforms into a knife-thrower of a carnival/circus, while still maintaining its almost ring-leader appearance. (Bow-tie, vest, but no top hat.)

And then Litten's is just a panther. Seems less inspired, unless I'm missing something.
Can you post the Litten and Rowlet ones?
 

Neiteio

Member
Yep, here you go.



And if you don't want to follow links...
Hmm...

When I saw the Popplio evo, I instantly thought, "Wow, this might be real"

But now that I see these Rowlet and Litten evos, they don't strike me as real at all

The Popplio one looks like Sugimori art and design, while the other two don't

If they're from the same source, I guess that increases the chances of being a fake

edit: They are kinda cool, though
 

JazzmanZ

Member
it sure was a big coincidence these final evolves happened to 'leak' just after the starters were recently revealed, and no doubt would of been revealed had they not!
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I wonder how many people will be disappointed with the first evolution.

Also when do we usually see that? Around August?
 

Strimei

Member
My general rule of thumb for supposed "leaks" is if its a photo of a screen, it is fake. Taking a photo of the screen helps cover up any errors and smaller details, making it easier to try and pass it off as legit. (that said, I'm sure there are cases of photos of screens of things that were actually real, but they're outweighed by the fakes)

They're pretty neat, though. But that Popplio evolution scares the beejezus out of me. Rowlet's kinda creeps me out.
 
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