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Will Smith slaps Chris Rock at the Oscars

NecrosaroIII

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Ownage

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Dude needs to get out of that relationship ASAP.

Just goes to show, don’t beat yourself up too much if you end up in a toxic relationship. It can happen to anyone. Can’t stay in it once you realize, though.

“Bad marriage for life.” Nah, Will, that’s where it all goes wrong.
She may have something on him that keeps him in the relationship. As he says, this is all business. The concern of what might come out if he goes against her wishes may be of greater threat than sticking around. What might it be? Probably gay or bi. (Honestly, who cares, if that's the case?)
 
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Zeroing

Banned
Wtf is wrong with her? Will, leave her already!
Both seem to have issues. She actually seems to be passive aggressive, Will seems an emotional wreck.

I don’t understand celebrities! They complain about always being on the spotlight yet there they are… making an amateur reality tv show!

I blame both of them! He could easily get out of that marriage. I guess all of years saying their relationship was the most stable in Hollywood was a show!
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
She may have something on him that keeps him in the relationship. As he says, this is all business. The concern of what might come out if he goes against her wishes may be of greater threat than sticking around. What might it be? Probably gay or bi. (Honestly, who cares, if that's the case?)
I was going to say the same thing.

He's got a lot more to lose than her. Jada's career is zero and her laughable skeletons in the closet having been running loose for years. She has nothing to lose. It cant get more embarrassing than having sleeping with a rapper dude in his 20s, while she was in her 40s. And now she's bald to boot.

I'd guess she has proof he was messing around with other women and Will doesn't want that out in full force.
 
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DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Are you not familiar with what she used to look like? She was fat. It was absolutely part of her standup.

Didn't know who she was til this thread... Never heard of her before. Only looked her up just in case I've seen her before but didn't know her name. Never saw her before, either.
 

Renoir

Member
read that he got in rehab. Man this is all bad all around. You want to not come to conclusion from just all these snipets. But damn.
Hope he does not end up like Bourdain, another man who had everything from the our point of view.
 
Interesting points, especially the grandparents and segregation. It makes me wonder how much of the offence taken is passed down, because it shouldn’t carry the same weight in modern times. There’s no system of second class citizenship behind it, so in and of itself it should mean less by default. It can mean someone wants you to think you still are a second class citizen, but everyone involved knows deep down that it’s not true.

It’s hard to generalise when the whole point is context, so it’s impossible to account for those extremes where people are raised to think someone is lesser and are truly ignorant. And if someone truly means what they’re saying, then it’s the same outcome: what they say provokes a certain reaction. But I think it’s an important distinction, personally. Society has put extra special status on that one particular racial slur, but everyone would be better off if they didn’t pretend it was the end of the world. You’re still an ignorant dickhead if you call someone that, but it feels like I’m the last 5 or so years it’s moved up again, and that forbidden nature only serves to give it more power. I’ve probably repeated myself here. Can’t be bothered to proof read on mobile.

Makes for some good comedy though.

I need to look into the origin of “ofay”.

Wait wait wait....

Chevy Chase AND Richard Pryor... in a skit... nearing the heights of their respective careers!? Well, shit. Thanks for that, Soodanim Soodanim ! :messenger_bicep:

It's a pretty damn good skit, too. Too bad the part played by the white actor would be cancelled immediately if this skit were tried this year. (Well to be fair, it wouldn't even be tried....)
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Wait wait wait....

Chevy Chase AND Richard Pryor... in a skit... nearing the heights of their respective careers!? Well, shit. Thanks for that, Soodanim Soodanim ! :messenger_bicep:

It's a pretty damn good skit, too. Too bad the part played by the white actor would be cancelled immediately if this skit were tried this year. (Well to be fair, it wouldn't even be tried....)
Wow. I was going to say this was 40 years ago. It was in fact 47 years ago done in season 1 1975. Chase was on SNL for only two years (1975-76). I thought he was on much longer than that.

But getting back to the skit, amazing how in the 70s people could see this as dumb humour. But modern day, people would go ballistic.
 



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:messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy: Man, I love Ricky Gervais's comedy. And I'm not saying that because of this video... I'm not even saying that because of his (absolutely legendary) Golden Globes monologue. I'm saying that because, the first time I ever saw the British version of "The Office," I thought, "yeah... this dude's special. He's good."

Two seasons of the British version of "The Office" >>>>>> ALL seasons, combined, of the American version of "The Office."

And I'm saying that as an American.

EDIT: And after "The Office," I saw a short-lived show Ricky Gervais had called "An Idiot Abroad" or something like that. It was absolutely brilliant. Gervais and his main comedy partner, they would send their (British version of "redneck") friend out to exotic locations, and just troll the shit out of this guy on the phone while the guy was acting like, you know... whatever British rednecks are supposed to act like.

Also Gervais had this show called "Extras," a sort of sitcom-type show where he would have real-life celebrity guests. The David Bowie episode in the second series was absolutely brilliant.
 
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///PATRIOT

Banned
Both seem to have issues. She actually seems to be passive aggressive, Will seems an emotional wreck.

I don’t understand celebrities! They complain about always being on the spotlight yet there they are… making an amateur reality tv show!

I blame both of them! He could easily get out of that marriage. I guess all of years saying their relationship was the most stable in Hollywood was a show!
They are just humans, but a lot of them don't have the emotional maturity to deal with a lot of money and attention. Think of the people who suddenly win the lottery, something like that.
 
Damn...
Wow, what an abusive piece of shit. The guy is having a moment and her thinking is to shove a camera in his face and dismiss his feelings with her bitch ass tone. No wonder he finally snapped if this is what he’s always having to put up with.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes

SJRB

Gold Member
Too little, too late. But at least it's something.

For a moment it actually seemed that this motherfucker could walk up stage, assault someone live on international television, receive an award minutes later to a standing ovation and walk away from the whole thing unscathed.

And now I never want to hear anything about Will Smith ever again.
 
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ManaByte

Member
Will Smith won't make a movie for 10 years. Then in 2031 he'll star in some Oscar bait redemption story releasing in November/December, and then old gray Will Smith will win another redemption Oscar with a tearful acceptance speech that his ban has finally been lifted.
 

nbcjr

Member
You are not understanding. During those 10 years he is allowed to be nominated and even win oscars, he just cannot go to the ceremony. Oh, and he keep his oscar too :messenger_grimmacing_
 

Pejo

Member
That's fucking stupid
Imagine if it was a nobody or like a staff member that walked up on stage during the broardcast and slapped the host. Like a cook or an usher or something (not the Usher). They'd be in jail, fired, blacklisted etc. He's getting off with a ban from an awards show, pretty fair.
 

ManaByte

Member
You are not understanding. During those 10 years he is allowed to be nominated and even win oscars, he just cannot go to the ceremony. Oh, and he keep his oscar too :messenger_grimmacing_

So basically the Polanski effect. Can't attend but can win Oscars and standing ovations.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Should not be allowed to be nominated. How do they not remember these sickos giving Polanski a standing ovation. Imagine the optics of that for Will.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
10 years seems excessive.
It's because it is. The optics of them doing this to Will Smith meanwhile they hand out awards to sexual predators is fucking insane.


"Slapping is worse than raping" - The Oscars


At the very least now I hope that this story can go away forever. So tired of hearing about in on social media and elsewhere.
 

Zeroing

Banned
What about woody Allen and Roman Polanski ?
That is the problem, They did not care, now the Oscar's need to pretend they care...

10 years is wow... all that free champagne and fancy food not being eaten by Will Smith, truly heartbreaking... lol
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Wow. This is an era post if I ever saw one. Completely missing my point and then trying to score some social justice points by implying I said something outrageous. Get some help.

Can't gaslight me. You literally equated Will with Polanski with your comment.
 

Punished Miku

Gold Member
Can't gaslight me. You literally equated Will with Polanski with your comment.
I think the circumstances are a little different. I barely know anything about Polanski, or his crime but it occurred off screen and not on prime time TV live in front of millions of viewers. It also occurred prior to the MeToo era, and while I'm the first to criticize the overzealous fanaticism of feminism/SJWs, MeToo completely has changed the culture in Hollywood for the better in some ways. The default attitude was complicitly hiding these things and covering them up, and that's what they did. They don't do that quite as much anymore.

This is about people wondering if it's safe to attend the event itself if assault can't be ruled out. We saw a complete failure to escort him from the event; a catastrophic lapse of security standards which honestly probably made the punishment worse for him. Because now they have to demonstrate that they don't condone violence, after they basically condoned it that night by letting him stay and giving him a trophy and standing ovation in front of the world.

It's not as simple as just putting Smith and Polanski on the scales of judgment and weighing which is worse. It's a totally different time now. One was wildly public and the other wasn't. And one is literally calling into question whether or not they're even capable of functioning as an event with basic security.
 
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DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
When Marlon Brando rejected his Oscar and had Sacheen Littlefeather bring light to the plight of Native Americans ... And Marlon Brando had to be restrained by security from dragging her off the stage.

Security did their job then... But they banned Will because NOW they're afraid of violence.
 

WolfusFh

Member
I think the circumstances are a little different. I barely know anything about Polanski, or his crime but it occurred off screen and not on prime time TV live in front of millions of viewers. It also occurred prior to the MeToo era, and while I'm the first to criticize the overzealous fanaticism of feminism/SJWs, MeToo completely has changed the culture in Hollywood for the better in some ways. The default attitude was complicitly hiding these things and covering them up, and that's what they did. They don't do that quite as much anymore.

This is about people wondering if it's safe to attend the event itself if assault can't be ruled out. We saw a complete failure to escort him from the event; a catastrophic lapse of security standards which honestly probably made the punishment worse for him. Because now they have to demonstrate that they don't condone violence, after they basically condoned it that night by letting him stay and giving him a trophy and standing ovation in front of the world.

It's not as simple as just putting Smith and Polanski on the scales of judgment and weighing which is worse. It's a totally different time now. One was wildly public and the other wasn't. And one is literally calling into question whether or not they're even capable of functioning as an event with basic security.
Why do you people act as if Will sent Chris to the hospital with a brutal beating? Legit question.

Everyone keeps saying that this "violent assault on Chris" is inhumane, but it was just a slap. Even if it is incorrect, it's not even remotely comparable to a violent beating in any way. The consequences to the victim are objectively different, with one being life threatening while the other is barely capable of causing minor injuries. The behaviour is also different, since a slap and a beating would relate to different levels of "lack of control".

And the security aspect isn't comparable either, and it's a massive slippery slope. "Oh man, if a guy can slap another guy and nothing happens, then a guy can brutally beat another guy there as well!". Ffs, prior to Will's public statements, a lot of people thought it was staged. Why wouldn't the security personnel think the same?

A little bit of logic in this topic instead of fallacy after fallacy would make this much more tolerable.
 

WolfusFh

Member
Should not be allowed to be nominated. How do they not remember these sickos giving Polanski a standing ovation. Imagine the optics of that for Will.
How are the situations even remotely comparable? I'd like to see you try to explain why an ovation for a child molester has any relation to an award for a person that slapped another.
 
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