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[VG Tech] Outriders PS5 and Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Test
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DenchDeckard
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I agree they need to get on top of it. I remember the ps4 having the issues early on due to immature sdk so fingers crossed it is just that.
That's definitely looking like the way this gen is headed. Especially of MS keeps getting AAA games to launch on Game Pass every now and then.
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assurdum
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HoofHearted
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Because there isn't that big of a difference when you're running and sprinting around the game.
I just spent an hour playing the game - The last thing you're looking at is the mud and saying to yourself "wow - that's lower texture mud than the PS5 - this game sucks!"
Quite honestly - I wouldn't have known that there was an issue with the mud if I hadn't read this thread prior to playing the game.
But hey - if nitpicking over mud textures to show some form of "superiority" between XSX and PS5 is your thing - go right ahead...
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assurdum
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carloseduardocd
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Always funny to see some damage control, like these text i read today.
"The higher the resolution, the less necessary is the anisotropic filter at high settings. So it makes sense that the anisotropic filter on the PlayStation 5 is set just above the Xbox Series X, as it runs the game at a lower resolution."
"The higher the resolution, the less necessary is the anisotropic filter at high settings. So it makes sense that the anisotropic filter on the PlayStation 5 is set just above the Xbox Series X, as it runs the game at a lower resolution."
Snake29
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Can we agree that some of you xbox fans don't care about quality anymore, "as long as it's free"?
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ethomaz
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Well if you never played the PS5 or PC version I agree with you.
ethomaz
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Where is that? It is actually the opposite the higher the texture resolution you should need higher AF.
assurdum
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So more detailed texture it's just trivial in motion, barely noticeable meanwhile, to the other side, higher dynamic resolution it's an huuuuuge deal, so huge that doesn't counts you need to scrutinize step by step the jaggies in a static shot to spot it but when you win in the big number who cares I guess.
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One of the great things about Game Pass is that you can try a game to determine the quality for yourself. And it turns out that Outriders is a very good game.
carloseduardocd
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Jaysen
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lol you’re taking this way too hard. It’s just games.
ethomaz
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Eu sinto pena quando alguém diz tamanha barbaridade
I feel bad when somebody says suck barbarity
SenjutsuSage
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The PS5 has a texture filtering advantage. That said, I don't expect it to keep it very long because the Series X version will be patched to fix it. There is no technical reason why its so low. So expect it to be patched. Otherwise an excellent Series X release.
HoofHearted
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That's kind of the point isn't it? Especially with this generation. It's not like we're going to experience drastic differences in overall image quality and performance between consoles.
Games are going to be released with bugs and imperfections - that's just the standard today - especially with the pandemic situation. As a result - you're going to see minor nitpicks and differences between the console (and PC) versions. Many of these issues are simply missed config changes, etc.
People complain - devs fix the minor issues - and voila - mud textures (or AF setting) are fixed. We saw this same exact pattern with so many other games earlier when the consoles were released.
End state? Just play the game on your choice of console and enjoy it ...
99.99% of the population could give a rat's ass about the mud texture differences in this (or any) game.
HoofHearted
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Did I say that?
Do you really think developers care about these minutiae and meaningless nitpicks? They're simply developing and configuring the game to run optimally. There's no "win" or "best version" on either console here - developers are more concerned on how well the game runs smoothly...
Iced Arcade
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Congrats both bots and ponies.
assurdum
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SSD IO should allow for more higher textures assets. But this seems more AF relative.
Zeroing
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ahah yes it is mind-blowing what some people write on the internet.
Pretty sure someone on twitter to write that "you cannot tell the difference" unless you are very very close to the tv. That is a deja vu from the PS4/xbox one era.
"wait for the patch" is becoming a very used word.
assurdum
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Of course they care. You think if the same AF doesn't give any perfomance cost, the developers were that stupid to keep it lowered at higher resolution?
Stuart360
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Its not IO or bandwith related lol. If it was, then PC gamers wouldnt be able to use 16xAF with almsot zero effect on performance, when both XSX and PS5 have faster SSD's and memory bandwith than the vast majority of PC users..
Honestly i know IO is the one major advantage PS5 has ovr XSX, but blaming every little difference in these compariosn threads down to IO, well its silly.
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Tickle My Tendies
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Both systems have SSDs that are more than fast enough to stream UHD textures. That has nothing to do with this.
It looks like the PS5 has 8x AF setting, while Series has 4x. Which doesn’t make sense to me. No idea why it wouldn’t be universal.
16x AF has been a thing on PC for at least 21 years.
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HoofHearted
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Considering that this most likely is an AF setting/configuration issue - I think they probably missed a config setting in their testing/delivery. Same as with other games (and subsequent patches) that were released since launch.
assurdum
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Dirt 5 still has worse AF on series X. If I can say series X seems more problematic to keep the same level of AF of ps5 in some games. I guess developers opted to push for more higher res possible on series X than use a similar or a little worse AF of the ps5, with just a minor resolution bump. So they make a choice.
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Shodan09
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Yep it's an incredibly easy decision if you're a multi platform gamer. Add in the vasty superior backwards compatibility program and the knowledge that your digital investments are going to be honoured moving forward and it's really a no brainer.
Julius Ibidus
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those were my exact words on my wedding night...
DeepSpace5D
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The texture advantage on the PS5 version looks like the overall biggest difference between the two.
HoofHearted
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And IIRC - last patch for Dirt 5 also introduced additional performance impacts for PS5.
My point? Devs will tweak and configure different aspects on these games to get optimal performance out of the platform. In addition to this - due to the complexity of developing and delivering a multi-plat game to the masses on multiple target configurations and platforms, there will most likely be additional "missed" configurations and/or tweaks that affect the game.
We've yet to see any game push the limits of either of these consoles.
In playing Outriders earlier - I noticed screen tearing on some of the cutscenes on XSX - but only on a few cutscenes and not during actual gameplay. I'd be interested to see if the same issue occurs across other target platforms as well.
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Jaysen
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The biggest difference is free versus 60.
perform better (basically a draw) with higher res...cmon etho stop it already :*
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assurdum
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Doesn't change the fact they choose such AF on series X and probably because it has an impact in the perfomance. It's not unusual lowered the AF for more stable FPS. If we look to the precedents, series X leans to have a slight worse fps when it's higher res of the ps5. This time is not the case and seeing it's the only game which uses a very notable lower AF, make me think developers make intentionally such choice, just for smoother perfomance at higher res. Just a guess.
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lol
SLB1904
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my man got confused with AAEu sinto pena quando alguém diz tamanha barbaridade
I feel bad when somebody says suck barbarity
RobRSG
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Given the fact they never bothered to enable vsync in the pre-rendered FMVs on the XSX, I wouldn’t expect anything less than bunch of idiots doing the optimization.
...Or perhaps the FMVs are too much for the XSX to handle? Not enough bandwidth?
Going back to the topic, no matter how much people try to spin the weight of AF, it is clear as day that resolution always impacts performance way more.
DeepSpace5D
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If I like a game enough I’ll just buy it to own it permanently.
But I was speaking on someone playing the best-looking console version. The IQ in the PS5 screenshots look superior to me if those texture comparisons are accurate.
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RobRSG
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Game is 70€ where I live.
Zoro7
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I played Dirt. Its a fun arcade racer. Stop hating because it looks like shite on your plastic box.
Topher
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SenjutsuSage
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MasterCornholio
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The resolution difference will go unoticed by many but most will definitely notice the sharper looking textures on PS5.
Didn't something similar happen with Dirt 5?
assurdum
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Not true at all. It's more complicated than you think. And it's not the first time FMV exhibits tearing. Some Ubisoft games has the same issue even in their logo presentation. But it's not relative to the game engine and it's an useless comparison.
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Mr Moose
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It's basically surfaces, not just "the DIRT".
I think with Watch_Dogs Legion, also.