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This is SSX (Trailer) + Uber Mondays
- Thread starter Fantastical
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:lol at us on Merq right now. We're trying to figure out if there's collision detection in the Global Events mode. There is collision in World Tour, apparently.
We don't even know if we've seen Global Events in action because the IGN and GB previews were only Explore and World Tour gameplay.
This is getting so confusing.
We don't even know if we've seen Global Events in action because the IGN and GB previews were only Explore and World Tour gameplay.
This is getting so confusing.
petethepanda
Member
I'll still be getting the game but damn if this isn't dampening my excitement.
Frankenstrat
Member
I live with 7 friends in a dorm at college, so I'll wind up probably using my buddy's gamertag. Will update with the actual tag once I can remember what it is and if I get his ok. Man, I'm considering changing the shipping of my copy to as quick as possible. Just can't wait for this game!
God damnit I was just getting used to your new avatar
I've had this avatar for nearly 5 years, so it should be familiar! I think.
-bakalhau-
Member
It's Merqury City, SSX fan site. The funny thing is we got soultron and gondee replying to each other here, THEN at the merq city forums they're having ANOTHER conversation about the same thing. :lol
http://merqurycity.com/ssx_forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9615&p=274730#p274730
So I haven't been able to follow this very well - but there's no confirmation then that there isn't head to head racing? Is there, there isn't, or is it a 'we don't know yet?'
No head to head racing in the sense of 'here is a single instance event' and someone wins regardless of what time they get.
There is multiplayer racing in that you send an invite to your friends for a custom global event, wait at the start until they all show up (if you don't run out of patience), yell "GO!" then see who reaches the bottom first. But this is all done on the honor system and doesn't keep someone from leaving first. No 'formal' event system per se. And if none of your SSX friends are online, you join established Global Events and just race/trick against a leaderboard, while other riders phase in and out around you.
-bakalhau-
Member
That's not good enough for this day and age. For a sports game specially.
Who needs the honour system when the game tracks your time? Even if you start a split second apart from one another, your time is still recorded accurately with respect to your individual run.
Damn, no split-screen or real multiplayer (from what I'm understanding - as in random lobbies, matchmaking for races, those kinds of things) is dropping this down from a Day 1 for me. I'm still excited to play it, but there's so much coming out in February and March that I can wait if I can't immediately hop online to race some fellow friends - and not their ghosts/times/etc.
It's the difference between time trials and the actual 100-meter dash with other racers. A formal event introduces tension that just going down a slope doesn't, and pride when you win something that other people couldn't. In this time, in this moment, even if everyone has a horrible race that is far from their best game, I still won it. There's a lot to say for the competition aspect of it. Divorce the game too far from this and all you're doing is competing against a leaderboard.
You can still do multiplayer in a sense - but it's not what people are expecting and I'm not sure reviewers are going to see this as a boon once review time comes around.
Guh. The more we talk about this, the more not having concrete information on Global Events hurts. :c
Net_Wrecker
Member
People, it's gotdamn Trackmania: SSX, what's all the fuss about in here? No, it's not traditional boardercross one shot races, but you're still competing against real people in real time. Sure I'd like to see tighter courses with traditional "everyone starts at the same time" type of stuff, but I don't get why this would be a deal breaker. The heart of SSX has always been topping someone else's time or score. All they've done is brought that to the forefront.
It still seems like we're missing certain bits of information. Also, they've not shown Global Events once yet.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I just don't understand the confusion. The course has a timer on it, people drop in and post times/scores, there's probably an option to start from the beginning if you aren't happy with your run, the timer counts down, people are awarded credits based on position on the leaderboard, the tournament starts over. They've also shown custom Global Events for if you want to invite friends to a specific kind of course where the host can mess with the rules and options. No there most likely isn't a "grid" style 3, 2, 1 race, but this game and a lot of the courses don't look to be built for full contact pack racing.
IDK, maybe it's the Trackmania fanboy inside of me getting excited because nailing the "perfect run" and seeing people try to top it, or chasing that top time/score is really fun, but I'm not blowing my top at this yet. I'm willing to give it a chance.
Hale-XF11
Member
For you, perhaps. For others, real-time race events are where it's at, or even some other type of event. It should at the very least be as core to the experience as online racing is to Mario Kart, but with live chat.
Baconsammy
Banned
Well, for me the heart of SSX was always the distinctive tracks and spending a lot of time replaying my runs from numerous different angles.
I also wish they'd steal the communities idea from Nintendo so that we wouldnt have to fill up our friends lists.
I'm completely there with you. AutoLog was a revolution to racing games and I'm happy to see the same form of competition here.
It's just confusing at this point because I'd like to know what to say to the people bemoaning the lack of simultaneous multiplayer, but I really can't say anything because I don't know one thing for sure regarding Global Events. If they had an option to sync a drop between friends (like you keep racing in your current run, but get ripped out of your current run when the last player "readies up," and then are transported to the top of the selected group run) it'd be easy to say, "There's still a way to do head-to-head," but we just don't know either way just yet.
Furthering the confusion is the minor details like collisions. IIRC, there was to be no collisions at all in the game (between PvP and PvAI) but in the GB Quick Look Connor mentions there is collisions between the player and AI riders in World Tour. There is no collision in Explore since friends' ghosts are literally immaterial representations of their racer('s line and tricks) and the "solid" AI riders representing the gold, silver, and bronze lines also fade in/out when you're about to collide with them. It's expected that the same will be true in Global Events, but it's hard to tell.
I played quite a bit of NFS Hot Pursuit, and from what I remember isn't 'AutoLog' just leaderboards? I remember SSX 3 Online had leaderboards per track/event.
It's integration of multiplayer leaderboards and stat-tracking in your single player experience.
Autolog tracks the performance index of your car (the sum of all the points assigned to your particular upgrades; tricked out car = better = higher perf. index value), the model of your car, and whatever time or score you've posted.
Autolog also recommended tracks for you based on what events/tracks you preferred. It told you what your friends had just done and where they were currently racing.
The biggest thing for me, which might be considered minor to some, is that it fed your friends data (split times, your + to their time at that checkpoint/gate on the track) into the game so you could see how you were performing in relation to them while you were racing by yourself. I'd be able to see your times when I passed the 2nd gate in a race and know I was 1.3 seconds ahead of your best time. It constantly reminded you that you were competing against your friends even though they weren't physically with you on that track.
If you utilize all of the data Autolog feeds to you, it either makes sure you have an enjoyable time (because it will recommend similar events or tracks) or makes sure you improve (because you'll always be trying to shave seconds off or earn higher event-specific scores) as you play.
Just sounds like marketing speak now. -__-
I can see that being useful in a game where you have control over your cars internals like Shift 2, none of that in HP though. I think this new SSX has some sort of half-assed RPG and stat boost stuff in it though? 'AutoLog' could base off of those stats/numbers I guess. Of course within days everybody will have the best gear/boards anyways.
I already know what tracks I like, that's why I've done then multiple times to the point where the game realizes I like them and recommends them to me.
I played a good probably 3000+ hours of SSX 3 online, and I'm almost 100% positive that had real time splits between you and the dude you were competing against in trick/point events, and I'm pretty sure it had time splits in the race events, back in 2003.
I should say that all I'm really hoping for out of this 'SSX reboot' is simply 3 and maybe Tricky up-rezzed/HDed with full 8 player online events, this new one seems to have all sorts of little things I either have no interest in or actively dislike that would get in my way of enjoying it for any decent length of time.
M.W.
Member
No head-to-head racing in multiplayer?
This upsets me very much. ლ(ಠ益ಠლ
Yep, I'm not buying it now.
Apples and oranges my friend.
Hmm a medieval dungeon crawler with no coop when fanatasy MMOs and Diablo clones are the craze.
Also, you haven't played oranges to judge, I mean SSX.
Soooo I want this game. And I'm -fine- with no online MP (not really, but I can get over it).
But what Really Really Really annoys me and pushes me away from buying it is the lack of splitscreen?! I at least wanna be able to thrash my family like I have since 2000!
That's fucked up, EA. Fucked. Up.
But what Really Really Really annoys me and pushes me away from buying it is the lack of splitscreen?! I at least wanna be able to thrash my family like I have since 2000!
That's fucked up, EA. Fucked. Up.
M.W.
Member
They are "re-inventing" the way it's played. F*ck that sh*t.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Why do I keep reading this? That and "So we're basically racing against ghosts all the time?" What? No. There is still online multiplayer with real people, it has just become about everyone on the course posting their best runs in real time as opposed to a one off standard boardercross race.
There is a single player mode: World Tour. It's ultimate purpose is to get your acclimated to the game so you can do well online. But you could say the same about most any games these days with both a SP and an MP component.
It does have a light fiction involved (Team SSX has to conquer all 9 of the deadly descents!) and you also play as every character in the game during its chapters.
So I looked back a couple page and noticed this whole thing is because a gaffer decided to "confirm by omission".. I'm thinking maybe we should wait a little bit, for reviews and stuff before going all crazy? Did you actually ask if there was a single player mode.. lol. Seems like you are already uninformed, or are angry and jumping the gun.. Jump jump! hahahah
Sorry just seems like blind leading the blind on here.. :shrugs:
Black Lawn Finale
Banned
Wow, pretty damning news in my eyes. I would probably pass on this if I wasn't getting a free copy already. Now I'll feel obligated to play. :/
AFAIK the game's engine has been built from the ground up. I'm sure its using middleware of some sort and/or tech from other EA studios, however.
The physics engine is definitely unique to the game though. They spent 2+ years working on it.
You know there's still a great game in there, right?
Also, as was just pointed out, we're still unsure as to what the game's real MP will and won't have because it's unclear. Gameplay from Global Events has not been shown yet.
Nizz
Member
Ohh. Thanks for answering. I thought maybe they were using Frostbite 2.
You can set up private events for you and your friends only, yes.
Mr Touchdown
Member
Hasn't been confirmed nor unconfirmed. The current argument is about this.
I reckon there is though.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I don't think my hype can be deflated short of canceling the game at this point.
M.W.
Member
It's ridiculous that this hasn't been shown yet. Stupid, really.
Hey guys. I just wrote up an article about SSX and the Badges that are in the game. I'm not sure if what I received was meant for internals or not - had an Excel sheet attached.
Either way here, it is: http://www.savingcontent.com/2012/02/ssx-earning-badges-without-having-to-join-the-boy-scouts/
At the bottom of the story is a link to a Public Google Doc that you can save where it shows all of the Badges in SSX.
Either way here, it is: http://www.savingcontent.com/2012/02/ssx-earning-badges-without-having-to-join-the-boy-scouts/
At the bottom of the story is a link to a Public Google Doc that you can save where it shows all of the Badges in SSX.
Yeah, well I'm gonna "re-invent" the way I buy games then. Looks like I'll be picking this shit up used instead of Day 1. Sorry, EA. Split-screen and head-to-head racing would have earned you my money, but you're not getting shit if this is just Trackmania on ice.