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Stellar Butt developer axes two angry feminists during Tencent shareholder call
Last Hearth
Member
It's really just whatever they feel like at the moment. If they like it, then it's empowering, if they don't, it's objectifying and misogynist.
This is why you can't reason with them, nor try to appease them. You just have to ignore them, which is what everyone should have done from the very beginning.
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Oddvintagechap
Member
both aren’t accurate. Might make one my self.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Ad hominem isn't any better.
playsaves3
Member
I do want to say what he said in that clip was solid just a lot of other stuff he says is bad seriously watch his interview with David benatar
LegendOfKage
Member
"Sham" is a bad-faith accusation, and I don't really find Peterson to be optimistic or platitudinous. He can be especially pessimistic at times, depending on the topic. He says a lot that I agree with, and especially lately, also a fair bit that I disagree with. Ironically enough, why does it have to be a binary? With him or against him, sham or savior, bad person or good person? People are more nuanced than that.
I think you're using that term wrong, but feminists themselves use it incorrectly all the time as well. The male gaze generally refers to camera angles and movements in movies and television that display women in an especially sexualized way. It's not the clothing, it's the closeups. Same thing absolutely happens to men on screen as well, which makes sense. It seems there's often an ignored double standard to these things, when it comes to one being offensive and the other nobody caring about. But I'll also admit that women are more likely to be displayed with these sort of camera movements, especially in older movies.
As for the story itself, I went looking for the tweets so I could understand both sides of the situation, but apparently she removed her account or something. If it's true, I would think a shareholder meeting is quite literally the last place you'd ever want to criticize the product you're making, so it makes sense that anyone doing that would be immediately fired.
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Raonak
Banned
Let developers make whatever kind of characters they want.
Whether they are hot AF, or just normal looking, or even characters that aren't "attractive".
Stellar = Great
Abby = Great
Elena = Great
Bayonetta = Great
It's tiresome seeing snowflakes getting triggered that a character is "too attractive", or "not attractive enough".
Whether they are hot AF, or just normal looking, or even characters that aren't "attractive".
Stellar = Great
Abby = Great
Elena = Great
Bayonetta = Great
It's tiresome seeing snowflakes getting triggered that a character is "too attractive", or "not attractive enough".
Madflavor
Member
Jesus Christ that's an oldie but goodie.
Buggy Loop
Member
Feminists - "All bodies are beautiful"*
*except fucking hot bodies
*except fucking hot bodies
laynelane
Member
What bothers me is that there's still a lot of issues with how women are treated in the world. I don't want to get political, but it's a gamut of issues -from pay equity to the lives and personal safety of girls and women in different countries of the world. That's also what feminism covers, trying to effect change and help women who are suffering. But now, thanks largely to these insane ideologists calling themselves feminists, the very concept has become tainted for many people.
In reality, the ones that want to police video games and how we look at them, are just another facet of the 'SJW' phenomenon (wasn't really sure how else to put it). People who bludgeon others with their views for their own ego and self-gratitude with no dissent or nuance allowed. And the main issue is that too many in the gaming industry have started to listen.
stn
Member
At the end of the day, to me personally it doesn't matter if a game developer decides to sexualize either a male or female character. Its up to them to make the game they want and its up to me to buy it if I want or avoid buying it because sexualized characters offend me. I have always found it really odd that people get upset over sexualized characters but not over the excessive violence and gore that exists in tons of games. For example, people complained about how NRS sexualizes its female characters, so they changed the artistic approach with Mortal Kombat 1. Fine. But those same people didn't blink an eye at the guts flying, spines being ripped out, heads being decapitated, etc...
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Stellar what now ?!!!
Is this a pornhub exclusive?
Is this a pornhub exclusive?
Kssio_Aug
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Insanely fucking based holy shit
Buying on PS5 and then on PC when it releases there
Buying on PS5 and then on PC when it releases there
ipukespiders
Member
Back in 2014?, during gaf's dark days, I mentioned liking "bikini armor" and I had some angry cunt tell me that they "don't want to take away all your bikini armor games" (paraphasing).
In reality, they do want to take them ALL away.
In reality, they do want to take them ALL away.
Kupfer
Member
LOL feminists in South Korea are not like the western feminists, this is a serious issue. GAF is dreaming up imaginary situations and celebrating a dev getting fired (as you will learn through this post they are essentially blacklisted from the industry since you are now under the watch of a certain forum who will freak out if said dev is involved in anything again).
Incase people are not aware, since they never looked it up.
Korean game devs are known to fire female animators to please a certain forum.
Nexon, Kakao Games accused of using feminist hand gesture in promotional videos
Nexon, Kakao Games and other game companies here were criticized heavily over the weekend, when a hand gesture associated with a defunct radical feminist community was spotted in promotional videos for their games. As the controversy spread online, the companies removed the videos that they said...www.koreatimes.co.kr
Apparently this is offensive to some males because it means "small pp".
Korean Twitch Streamer Takes Her Own Life After Being Pinned "Feminist" By A Far-Right YouTuber And Getting Cyber-Bullied By Male Extremists
On February 5, 2022 KST, popular female Twitch streamer BJ Jammi's alleged uncle shared an unexpected update about her passing on her Twitch community page.www.koreaboo.com
Personally, I don't think streamers should be committing suicide or animators/game devs fired because some forum users think a girl made the "small pp gesture".The said online communities also attacked Jammi over a screenshot from her May 2019 live broadcast—of the streamer holding up her fingers in a pinching motion (which, by 2021, became a trigger in Korean gender wars). While Jammi had been mentioning how small the chatroom font seemed on her mobile device, the online communities circulated the screenshot as the streamer hinting at her radical feminist ideals. Subsequently, Jammi received backlash for the allegedly intentional use of some verbiage associated with radical feminism in her broadcasts as well.
First clip that did not censor hand gestures.
The broadcasting company reuploaded it by censoring them.
In this case, a korean dev fired an employee for "being a feminist". We don't know what she did and already dreaming up situations. If it was something like her animating a "small pp gesture" into the game or having an account and posting in some feminist forums/megalia knock-offs, is it ethical to support this move?
South Korean man attacks shop clerk he thought was a feminist
The man told the shop clerk he was attacking her because she had short hair and must be a feminist.www.bbc.com
Police said he had attacked the woman because she had short hair, and so assumed she was a feminist.
"Since you have short hair, you must be a feminist. I'm a male chauvinist, and I think feminists deserve to be assaulted," he told her, according to the police.
'HR weeds out women' online post sparks furor
An anonymous online post about an allegedly misogynistic hiring process at a company is sparking a furor here, where gender-related issues have repeatedly sparked controversy. The anonymous writer, who posted it on Sunday, claimed to be part of the hiring process at their company, and that their...www.koreaherald.comThe anonymous writer, who posted it on Sunday, claimed to be part of the hiring process at their company, and that their policy is to eliminate all applicants who graduated from women's universities. "It's not like we exclude all women but if (the applicant) is from a women's college, we don't even read the resume," the person wrote.
It was a light-hearted comment with a wink from me.
We do not know the circumstances and have no insight into this case, so the post is formulated in such a way that the content is not presented as fact, just one of 10,000 possibilities and made up in my mind.
Of course, serious social problems should not be swept under the carpet. But this example shows how negatively influenced and oversaturated we have become with this topic, because there are people clamouring for attention who exploit topic X (it doesn't matter which one, the main thing is that the image of the corresponding victim role is currently in vogue) in order to live out their delusions and attention deficit.
The irony here is that the flood of self-proclaimed twitter social justice warriors may mean that those genuinely affected, who urgently need help in difficult life situations, may no longer be taken seriously by outsiders, and that these SJWs may have the opposite effect of what they actually propagate. A further indication that it is not about an issue of conviction, but about external confirmation of one's own self-perception, which one obtains via "social" networks.
Whitecrow
Banned
There's also a gamut of issues on why feminisms is rejected as it is.
Maybe if women want those problems fixed, they should stop attacking men for being men, be conscious and aware of human and society problems, ask for feasible goals, instead of making everyone angry for the existence of hunger in the world, like if it could be fixed in the flip of a switch.
They would get a lot more things done if they acted like civilized people, with common sense, and showed signs of good will against men, and also tolerance against dissenting views, but feminism is now the definition of people who DONT do those basic normal people things, so no wonder why so many people are againts them.
laynelane
Member
Yeah, and it's a problem when all feminists are painted with the same brush. The loudest and most extreme have become the focus for far too long. Targeting all men as the enemy, women who don't agree as the enemy - it's so counter-productive. I don't know whether it's social media amplification that is the problem, but it often seems like the key issues are lost in all the rage.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
Those terms were not in the public conscious outside of fringe college gender studies courses. The feminism push didn't happen until around 2014, with Sarkesian, mattress girl, mee too, etc..
Before that there was no culture war that we see in gaming today.
Also back then the websites like IGN, gamespot etc, weren't all woke either. Hell I remember IGN doing babe of the week and Babeology:
Here is a blast from the past, of course the USA ones are wiped off the net, lol.
IGN Babeology: April Rose on Gaming
We interview the host of Maximum Exposure about her connection to games and her secret video game crush.es.ign.com
That was from 2012... before the Sarkesian cult was started. It was also before the masses all had smart phones.
Bayonetta came out in 2009, way before this even. So you can imagine the difference.
Its what I find so strange as some of the same staff were at these websites and like a switch, or marching orders from on high, changed from promoting stuff like this to calling people misogynists and promoting feminism. Seen it in almost real time the cascade of brainwaves been triggered a different direction. And I felt like the world was going insane. This website went through a similar transition too.
I do remember mattress girl. I remember how crazy she got as time went on. I'm from that city/suburbs. So I remember when that Feminazi virus started to show up
Let's just say I remember when it started too in 2014. I would argue that it was there before but it wasn't as accepted or could be ignored by people who don't believe it
There were a lot less stuff back than that had those feminazi themes in it so it was easier to avoid. Not to mention websites weren't like what they are now. They were fine showing attractive sexy women. And didn't mind fanservice. A good example of this is sites like RPGAMER and RPGFAN. They I noticed started to not only deride fanservice but started to get more and more SJW in certain things too.
I used to listen to both RPGFAN And RPGAMER podcasts but they hire the same feminazi cunt who won't stop running her mouth on things. I stopped listening when on one of the podcasts she started to go off on the main villain of Persona 4 and how much it triggers her. It really rubbed me the wrong way. So yeah, I basically drop anything right away or give a bad grade to it if I see an ounce of Feminazism and SJW shit in it
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MonkeyClaw36
Member
It's like common sense is slowly replacing Woke-ism. Are we going back to normal? Here's hoping!
People shoehorning in private agendas should be sacked on the spot. Piss off with all that Woke/ Cancel/ inclusiveness/ lhbgtibbq shit.
Glad to see it's dying down. Guess screetching for attention is finally starting to backfire.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
exactly. let good looking people be goo looking and we all benefit
It's like common sense is slowly replacing Woke-ism. Are we going back to normal? Here's hoping!
People shoehorning in private agendas should be sacked on the spot. Piss off with all that Woke/ Cancel/ inclusiveness/ lhbgtibbq shit.
Glad to see it's dying down. Guess screetching for attention is finally starting to backfire.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
I'm a fan of both, 2B ass is nicer but we need to go back to more female characters like her. The environments have been a massive leap but most of the time if it's western the characters aren't attractive, with the only exception being the male characters
Than there's The Female Gaze which is seen perfectly as acceptable which is just bullshit
Die Namek Ability
Member
Thats why its best to separate politics and business. Let a game be a game.
And for those (if any) that say its over sexualization of the female body...Porn exists wanna cancel that?
And for those (if any) that say its over sexualization of the female body...Porn exists wanna cancel that?
Kupfer
Member
But porn is not produced for an audience of millions and earns billions - oh wait.
Dammit you beat me to it.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
Radical Dreamer
Member
Her butt is perfect imo.
She?
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
"Less pandering" is an unfortunate word choice when describing a game mostly sold on the basis of ass cheeks.
Roxkis_ii
Member
Shareholders call in action:
Naw this studio is fire!
I might buy two copies of the game and pre-order one just to show support.
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It always going to be pandering, it's just what direction it's aimed at.
Naw this studio is fire!
I might buy two copies of the game and pre-order one just to show support.
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It always going to be pandering, it's just what direction it's aimed at.
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Thats nonsense. Im sure people wouldnt be nearly as excited for this game if it didnt have good interesting gameplay. There just praising the "ass"ets disporportionatly to get a rise out of the slacktivist crowd.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
Funny enough I thought so too which isn't a bad thing though
That 10 min video showed lot of gameplay and it looks like they really added alot of interesting side stuff to do like even I think helping building a town if I remember correctly.
I'll be waiting for this game to come to Steam. I can wait for however long it takes. I'm happy for the PS5 players though
Aenima
Member
Think ShiftUp isent tallented? Otakus that think only japan does good stuff are annoying AF. Thers aLot of talent coming out of China and Korea recently.
Kssio_Aug
Member
It's super unfair what they've done and are still trying to do to him. I have never seen him escalate a discussion, he always acts politely and give good arguments when debating. Then some people get angry against him and try to destroy his credibility and career because they can't debate on the same level. The guy seems a very good person and has suffered tons of serious problems in life, and yet some people go against him with blood in their eyes... just crazy.
I'm not even against feminism, I believe it's an important movement for woman rights. But I hate people, from whichever line of thinking, that lose reason and try to destroy other honest and reasonable people career or life just because they hold a different view and a much stronger argument. The problem relies on extremists.
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Roxkis_ii
Member
Have we been looking at the same tweets? Jp Twitter is unhinged.
Bro what Emo do to deserve that?
Edit: This has been found to be a fake tweet.
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Kssio_Aug
Member
Is this twitter post real? I might end up being wrong, but I really doubt it, because it seems completely out of character from everything I've seen of him.Have we been looking at the same tweets? Jp Twitter is unhinged.
Bro what Emo do to deserve that?
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MonkeyClaw36
Member
Kinda like when Ben Shapiro burnt a Feminazi into the ground when it came to equal rights:
This one is a 9 minute roast of EVERY feminism standpoint. Fun to watch.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
I don't mean this as a commentary on the game's substance, I am just pointing out that it seems to be doing a bit of pandering to a certain audience...
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
And that's a bad thing?
winjer
Gold Member
The game does look good, with a cool combat system, great action and nice graphics.
The pretty girl character is just the icing on the cake.
For most of us, it's just a nice extra. But for the sjw people, it's a crime against humanity.
And that they react so viciously, is just too funny not to enjoy. Schadenfreude.
Roxkis_ii
Member
Not too out of character (I laughed at this one, but I don't think drag queens are predators)
Now I do have to admit that I have been viewing his tweets through posts on reddit, so I did only see his most unhinged tweets, but after actually checking out his tweeter, it's mostly just old man yelling at the clouds type post.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
This game does not have the profile to be a culture war touchstone, but I know how people very much like to imagine people fighting with them in their head. Schadenfreude is a big mover these days.
I don't care either way, I'm just pointing out the irony of phrasing it as "not pandering."
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LegendOfKage
Member
Roxkis_ii
Tweets are tweets. You can find and embed them. They're real, and they're documented. Images can be altered. You should maybe consider not posting tweets that are images designed to make people look bad, and fool people into thinking that they're real. You might also consider deleting the ones you've posted already, unless you can actually verify them. I looked into the first post to see who Peterson actually was writing that reply to, and I couldn't find it. Even the text itself might be made up. Outside of verified images of now deleted tweets, if you're going to post tweets, it's a good idea to post actual tweets.
Mister Wolf
Member
It's like common sense is slowly replacing Woke-ism. Are we going back to normal? Here's hoping!
People shoehorning in private agendas should be sacked on the spot. Piss off with all that Woke/ Cancel/ inclusiveness/ lhbgtibbq shit.
Glad to see it's dying down. Guess screetching for attention is finally starting to backfire.
No. It's here to stay in the West at least for our entire lifetime. The Korean men never let feminism take over like we did. Does anyone believe a company like Sweet Baby Inc would even exist over there, let alone be able to be profitable.