X-Wing
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What the fuck are you talking about?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I have xm3 here too (full size) and I think pulse 3d sounds better
FrankWza
Member
We're heading for VR2-level crazy anti-product threads based on some of these comments. Streamlining remote play into a single device and elevating gaming audio, all for fair to great price points is somehow bad.
FrankWza
Member
Yes. I don't think everyone gets the tech and features included in these audio products.
X-Wing
Member
Dream-Knife
Banned
Surely you're joking.This is not my experience at All and I own the best headsets on the planet.
Just got to see some reviews and seems mostly everyone agrees with me, SONY headsets are the best on the planet.
Sony WH-1000XM5 Wireless Headphones review
Still the best in the business, but the gains for the WH-1000XM5 are more marginal than beforewww.techradar.com
Apple is the only company i would say that might have better options.
Sennheisers are the best sub-1k mass produced headsets generally.
Apples headsets aren't great either. There's a reason they bought out beats. It's just fasion.
FrankWza
Member
Their loss. If I didn't have a wireless planar setup already I would get both. But I'm pre-ordering the Explores as soon as they go up.Yet, they don't hold back on talking shit.
Both of these products will disintegrate with time and will probably have flaws that will make them unusable, I have bought every single PS headset and they're all shit, I've had the Xm3, XM4 and XM5 headphones and they're all amazing, hard to believe the same company is behind both.
you can't connect your XM3 to your PS console, you have to use the headphone jack, no shit the PS headset will sound a bit better. The problem is not sound, is HW quality.
Zathalus
Member
I firmly disagree. Sound is good, but the microphone is terrible, build quality is cheap plastic and it is one of the most uncomfortable headsets I've ever used due to the earcup design and the inability to adjust the fit.
I own over a dozen headsets and this one is by far the worst. If we are rating first party headsets then the Xbox headset the better of the two, but even then you are better off with the many third party headsets on the market.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I know that. I am not connecting xm3 on ps5.
Just some music from phone and on pulse 3d from pc.
I realize powering off or using analog connection disables dps.
xm3 sounds great but it's very bassy. muddy maybe
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Comfort is personal I guess... I don mind it.
Mic is not the best, true but nobody complained when I played some bf5 but I dont play online much anymore if at all, so I dont care.
they are, they've been refining that with each iteration, you also can fine tune with the app.
The XM5s are just lovely, I really wish they'd just let me use those.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
The original Pulse Elites. They have vibration motors that rumbled with bass.The GOAT pulse.
They also cracked in that narrow neck area right above the earcups something fierce.
Sony's best PlayStation headset is still the Platinum, I do wonder if the new Pulse Elites will be better.
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MarkMe2525
Member
Anything with machine learning is branded AI nowadays. I like the Explorers though. Not a fan off the $200 price point, but if these things ever get near $130, I may snatch a pair up.Don't looks like elite to me, more like a redesign of the pulse 3D.
Maybe the tech behind the audio will be different?
edit:
PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch starting Nov 15 at $199.99
Pulse Explore wireless earbuds and new Pulse Elite wireless headset revealed; features lossless, low latency audio using new PlayStation Link technology.blog.playstation.com
Looks like use AI for noise rejection.
Pasta la Vista
Member
They were so fucking uncomfortable though.The GOAT pulse.
MarkMe2525
Member
Thousands? How many controllers and headsets you buying?
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
They're nice until the pleather starts to disintegrate.The GOAT pulse.
Unfortunately the xm5 has garbage auto ANC levels that cannot be adjusted in settings unlike the xm4 (for the headsets). I decided to keep my xm5s regardless as the music quality and microphone performance are great. But for max noise cancelling the xm4 is a far more solid choice.
TrebleShot
Member
I love my XM5s shame there isnt that much use purpose outside of walking or even trains/planes and I drive mostly.
Sounds like they will be licensing the sony link tech and id imagine any XM6 will likely have it built in, well you'd hope so. They will want this on their phones, consoles and via the USB.
For gaming, the Pulse sounds better anyway.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Sennheiser !
Yes allowing for lossless low latency connection in future XMs (headset and earbuds) will be nice. Let's see if PS5s "slim" includes it.
Neofire
Member
my son broke mine
TrebleShot
Member
Id be amazed if it didnt considering this is in the new headsets and devices, would be a real WTF moment.
However this is a company that thought UMD was a good idea, a media for a singular device.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Sony quality for their non playstation NC headphones so guessing these would be similar quality. pretty good.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Not anymore. Senn has sold its Headphone division, its all Asia developed/ produced crap now.
Ozrimandias
Member
lol what?
Audiophile
Gold Member
Aside from some slightly wonky use of negative space on the PS5 itself; I gotta say I'm liking the overall design language of this generation. It may not be everyone's cup of tea but it's distinctive, iconic and recognisable. Everything is very coherent and immediately identifiable from a brand perspective. The console, controllers, headsets/earphones, PSVR2 etc., they all just belong.
I hope with PS6 they take the same approach but perhaps with slick satin black cores and dark grey accents rather than the less agreeable and less practical gloss black cores with white accents.
I hope with PS6 they take the same approach but perhaps with slick satin black cores and dark grey accents rather than the less agreeable and less practical gloss black cores with white accents.
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vivftp
Member
Sony Interactive Entertainment has now acquired Audeze. Considering the timing of this product announcement and the acquisition, it's highly probable that this headset and the earbuds were developed in collaboration with Audeze since they use planar magnetic drivers.
It'll be interesting to see how they stack up.
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Tams
Member
Tams
Member
I'm not sure where it is produced, but they sold it to a Swiss hearing aid company that actually produced their own IEMs over a decade ago that the audiophile community raved over for their neutral sound and balanced armature at an affordable price.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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SenkiDala
Member
Was coming to say this, it's actually a VERY decent price ?
Anyway what's going on with the Bluetooth on PS5/XSX/XSS, it is not compatible right ? I forgot but I think I remember that my Bose headphones and AirPods Pro 2 don't work because those consoles don't accept BT right ? Like the PS4 and One in fact... if I remember correctly.
So in those ones there's some special drivers to reduce BT latency and so it'll be compatible to the PS Portal, the PS5 ? Will it be compatible to PS4 too ? I still use a PS4 Pro in my bedroom.
LoveCake
Member
I have had mine since launch, they are good for the price, no issues at all with build quality with mine.
What is the difference between Pulse 3D and Pulse Elite?
I wonder when the Audeze headset will come out?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Latency or some talk. I don’t care about bt anyway
vivftp
Member
I've got the Inzone H7, so I likely won't look at getting these elites. Might consider the explore for use with PSVR2 though
Now that Sony owns Audeze that puts them on my radar in case they do a considerably higher end headset than the elite. It feels highly likely that they'll have a higher end unit at some point considering the sort of units Audeze produces.
Now that Sony owns Audeze that puts them on my radar in case they do a considerably higher end headset than the elite. It feels highly likely that they'll have a higher end unit at some point considering the sort of units Audeze produces.
StereoVsn
Member
We shall see how it goes. Somehow I think this is going to go more minidisk or betamax route vs becoming a widely adapted standard.
Aaron Olive
Member
Crispy Gamer
Member
How? In concept it's no different than what Series X does it's just Sony's new wireless protocol that'll allow them to get rid of the usb dongle on future hardware so 3rd party would have no reason to not support it
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Holy crap, really? I'm like days late on these, will look into it further......
hououinkyouma00
Member
Planar Magnetic drivers are a pretty big deal in a $150/$199 device which makes me more interested.
I don't really do headsets anymore as they hurt my head. I currently use wired IEMs on console and PC so the explore would be my choice. Will wait for reviews.
I don't really do headsets anymore as they hurt my head. I currently use wired IEMs on console and PC so the explore would be my choice. Will wait for reviews.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Didn't you notice what others are saying here, this is a much bigger upgrade than that for both headsets. Good article here:
PlayStation Pulse Elite and Explore: What We Might Expect
On Aug 23, 2023, Playstation announced the release of their next set of gaming peripherals including the PULSE Elite headset and Explore wireless earbuds. Headphone expert Fc-Construct breaks down what we can expect.
Also the portal is already better than any backbone since it has proper controllers, less lag, and a bigger screen.
StereoVsn
Member
I like the dongle since usually you can get XSX headset that will support all consoles.