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[CuteFaceJay]

Yes. And you can toggle off the sharpening per application. Or better, set the amount you want on a per game basis.
Now this is as used by the user, in Windows.

But on the Switch, a developer would set the amount of sharpening he deems necessary.
No user input would be needed. And games would get a better upscaler.

Testing with FH5 now and I'm not seeing any noticable performance gains just a whole lot of sharpening that's adding in shimmering and jaggy like effects.

Is it just a case of adjusting the % slider or do I need to do something else here?

 

[Kenpachii]

Testing with FH5 now and I'm not seeing any noticable performance gains just a whole lot of sharpening that's adding in shimmering and jaggy like effects.

Is it just a case of adjusting the % slider or do I need to do something else here?

Slider is just sharpening, the other part of actual upscaling i am also trying to figure out still in a game that doesn't have full screen mode, such as fh5.

anyway

there seems to be a hotfix 496.84 gona try it out.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5264

GeForce hotfix display driver version 496.84 is based on our latest Game Ready Driver 496.76.

The hotfix addresses the following issues:

• [NVIDIA Image Scaling]: After performing a clean install or over install over version 496.49, NVIDIA Image Scaling resolutions do not appear in the game. [3434708]

Click here to download the GeForce hotfix display driver for Windows 10 x64/ Windows 11 x64.

 

[winjer]

Testing with FH5 now and I'm not seeing any noticable performance gains just a whole lot of sharpening that's adding in shimmering and jaggy like effects.

Is it just a case of adjusting the % slider or do I need to do something else here?

Enable the NIS overlay indicator. This will tell you if it's working
If it's Blue, then it's just adding sharpening filter. If it's Green, then it's doing the supscaling.

To enable NIS it you have to go to the option menu in the game and set a lower resolution than native.
NIS will automatically create 5 custom resolutions for your system. These are based on a percentage of your native resolution. 85%, 77%, 67%, 59% and 50%
For example, if you play at 1440p, you will find a new resolution of 1224p, that is the 85%.

You also have to be in Fullscreen mode.

 

[mansoor1980]

NIS also upscales the UI unfortunately , looks really bad

 

[winjer]

Just tried using it on FH5, but it doesn't work. It only does the bicubic upscaling of the game itself.
Probably because of the UWP system.

 

[Rudius]

I can't find the option to enable NIS in the GeForce experience, experimental options is enabled.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

I can't find the option to enable NIS in the GeForce experience, experimental options is enabled.

You need to enable experimental features for it thats why. OR GFE can't hook your game?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/news/nvidia-image-scaler-dlss-rtx-november-2021-updates/

 

[Rea]

Source? Sounds very unlikely! I read nowhere about it.

From NVIDIA DLSS 2.3 To NVIDIA Image Scaling: NVIDIA’s Full Stack Of Scaling Solutions For Gamers

NVIDIA DLSS 2.3 further improves image quality, Assetto Corsa Competizione, AWAY: The Survival Series, Battlefield 2042, Bright Memory: Infinite, Farming Simulator 22, Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition, Hot Wheels Unleashed, Jurassic World Evolution 2, Myth of Empires, and...

www.nvidia.com

Don’t take Nvidia’s word for it — try Nvidia’s awesome new image comparison tool instead

Does Nvidia DLSS beat AMD FSR? See for yourself

www.theverge.com

 

[Rea]

Watch battlefield 2042 use dlss 1.0.

I thought BF 2042 uses Dlss 2.3, No?

 

[Kenpachii]

I thought BF 2042 uses Dlss 2.3, No?

As the early access had massive ghosting on objects i doubt its anywhere near 2. we will see tho.

 

[Rudius]

You need to enable experimental features for it thats why. OR GFE can't hook your game?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/news/nvidia-image-scaler-dlss-rtx-november-2021-updates/

I've checked the square that says that, it downloaded, installed and is green now, but the option seems to be unavailable. I have a 1650 and I'm trying to play the Forza Horizon games.

I only see in game overlay, whisper mode and battery boost options.

 

[sertopico]

From NVIDIA DLSS 2.3 To NVIDIA Image Scaling: NVIDIA’s Full Stack Of Scaling Solutions For Gamers

NVIDIA DLSS 2.3 further improves image quality, Assetto Corsa Competizione, AWAY: The Survival Series, Battlefield 2042, Bright Memory: Infinite, Farming Simulator 22, Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition, Hot Wheels Unleashed, Jurassic World Evolution 2, Myth of Empires, and...

www.nvidia.com

Don’t take Nvidia’s word for it — try Nvidia’s awesome new image comparison tool instead

Does Nvidia DLSS beat AMD FSR? See for yourself

www.theverge.com

Thanks! That's interesting I am going to update and see what happens.

 

[Amey]

What happened to the ignore grain slider?

 

[amc]

With my 3060 I'm using 77% of native and 25% sharpen and it's real nice. Games I ran at 1080p or 1440p on my 4K TV are now upscaling to 4K and sticking the landing at 60fps. Definitely a nice improvement in image quality. No G-sync on my bedroom Q9FN but I save the big games for the living room and this NIS is great for pushing less fancy games to 4K60.

For my 2080TI I'm using 85% and 15% sharpen on a game by game basis, most games will run at 4K60 native but for the few that struggle this has helped and the image difference is pretty negligible using those percentages compared to native.

Add in G-sync on my C1, a tasty overclock and DLSS, well, I'm seeing good things for the future performance of my cards. Nice.

It's crazy I never noticed it before, tried sharpen on a couple of titles in the past but never knew about GPU scaling, need to read what heralded nVidia to trumpet it now in the new driver. They've added something right, it's not just a simple re-announce without anything new at all? Whatever the reason I'm glad I caught wind of it now.

 

[Darknssfalls]

Just tried using it on FH5, but it doesn't work. It only does the bicubic upscaling of the game itself.
Probably because of the UWP system.

You need to select the lower resolution you want in Nvidia Panel or Dektop, run FH5 and select there your native res to actívate NIS or then you only gettin' the sharpening effect (Blue colored NIS overlay if you have it enabled.)

 

[alucard0712_rus]

Don't know why we need this. It's simple scaler, you can do it in multiple ways including in-game scaler.
I guess it's here just for simplicity and it's universal. But other than that?

 

[ethomaz]

this video is from dec 10 2020 it has the gpu scaling tick box although it's been around even longer. They seem to have just renamed the option from sharpening to scaling



edit: Seems to be the same thing it seems to work the same way 2 years ago as it does now. Was mentioned is some FSR reviews but no one gave a shit.

I did not know that but reading the nVidia page they say…

“newly updated feature”

It is probably not using the same scaling.

 

[Kenpachii]

Got it working, it doesn't seem to work currently with ultra wide.

 

[ethomaz]

tried it on cyberpunk but why do i have to apply the scaling resolution to desktop?

In non-fullscreen games the full-screen is the desktop.

 

[ethomaz]

Tried everyhing out again i couldn't get it to work. Maybe i did get it to work on horizon at some point, but saw huge haloing around the tires and mirrors so not sure if that was supposed to happen.

I give up for now, will see if the next driver fixes it.

Did you changed your desktop resolution with the newer NIS resolution created after activate it?

Depending if your monitor it should at least have created a 1080p options or lower there.

Edit - Late… seems like you manage to make it work

 

[HermitSperg691]

It doesn't work with DSR but you can disable DSR and make custom resolutions(the same resolutions DSR gave you) and the sharpening will work.

 

[MightySquirrel]

You need to select the lower resolution you want in Nvidia Panel or Dektop, run FH5 and select there your native res to actívate NIS or then you only gettin' the sharpening effect (Blue colored NIS overlay if you have it enabled.)

Well now it works in every game. Basically set your desktop resolution to one you want to have game scaled to. [because in game rez setting won't do anything]

 

[sertopico]

From NVIDIA DLSS 2.3 To NVIDIA Image Scaling: NVIDIA’s Full Stack Of Scaling Solutions For Gamers

NVIDIA DLSS 2.3 further improves image quality, Assetto Corsa Competizione, AWAY: The Survival Series, Battlefield 2042, Bright Memory: Infinite, Farming Simulator 22, Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition, Hot Wheels Unleashed, Jurassic World Evolution 2, Myth of Empires, and...

www.nvidia.com

Don’t take Nvidia’s word for it — try Nvidia’s awesome new image comparison tool instead

Does Nvidia DLSS beat AMD FSR? See for yourself

www.theverge.com

^Small update: it didn't upgrade automatically to dlss 2.3.

 

[ethomaz]

Testing with FH5 now and I'm not seeing any noticable performance gains just a whole lot of sharpening that's adding in shimmering and jaggy like effects.

Is it just a case of adjusting the % slider or do I need to do something else here?

After activate the NIS you need to change your desktop resolution to one of the new ones generated by the driver for games that doesn’t work in fullscreen.

 

[Kenpachii]

must say finer detail goes down the shitter something dlss fixes so its like playing without AA. tried out 2560x1440 and got the render resoluiton on 1920x1080. its solid tho for more performance in fast paced games if you need too.

 

[ethomaz]

Just tried using it on FH5, but it doesn't work. It only does the bicubic upscaling of the game itself.
Probably because of the UWP system.

It works… it is a non full-screen game… you need to change your desktop resolution for the new ones created by NIS.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

must say finer detail goes down the shitter something dlss fixes so its like playing without AA. tried out 2560x1440 and got the render resoluiton on 1920x1080. its solid tho for more performance in fast paced games if you need too.

Will for sure be good for older Nvidia GPUs trying to get 1080p 120

 

[winjer]

It works… it is a non full-screen game… you need to change your desktop resolution for the new ones created by NIS.

That's a bit of a hassle to make it work.
The game does have an option saying Fullscreen. But I guess it's just borderless windowed.

 

[nightmare-slain]

should i enable this globally or per game? i don't know what i'm meant to be doing with this... help pls

edit: nvm i think i know now

 

[mansoor1980]

In non-fullscreen games the full-screen is the desktop.

i run cyberpunk in fullscrreen mode

 

[ethomaz]

That's a bit of a hassle to make it work.
The game does have an option saying Fullscreen. But I guess it's just borderless windowed.

FH5 has no fullscreen mode (neither Halo Infinite but in that case seems like the dev will implement in a future patch)... the option you see is just the Windows DX12 borderless window.

 

[ethomaz]

i run cyberpunk in fullscrreen mode

You don't need to change the desktop resolution just the ingame resolution to that one of up to five created by NIS.
You only apply NIS to the desktop in game that doesn't run in fullscreen mode.

 

[sertopico]

I reverted back to the older drivers, this new sharpening does not fully convince me. Besides, the option "ignore film grain" disappeared. I tested on CP 2077 and the IQ was worse, using native res + 0.50% sharpening and DLSS Quality, as I was doing before. Many surfaces got lots of flickering due to the sharpening. Maybe this new one is more aggressive than the old one and you need a lower percentage?

 

[Rea]

^Small update: it didn't upgrade automatically to dlss 2.3.

Ok, then it needs manually install to the game folder.

 

[xPikYx]

Honestly I used to do this with internal game rendering, setting a resolution and then scaling down the internal render through the game to improve performance. I did this on Metro Exodus and Assassin's Creed Odissey, for example: I set the resolution to 4k and then I set the internal rendering to 80/70 % and the quality loss was negligible. Now what this new NIS does is exactly the same but is the GPU itself that applies this at driver level. From my understanding you must find into the game 3d settings new resolution values with various percentages (85/77/63/50%) so then the actual rendering resolution is lower than 4k but the GPU applies the upscaling to chosen desktop resolution, am I correct?

 

[sertopico]

Honestly I used to do this with internal game rendering, setting a resolution and then scaling down the internal render through the game to improve performance. I did this on Metro Exodus and Assassin's Creed Odissey, for example: I set the resolution to 4k and then I set the internal rendering to 80/70 % and the quality loss was negligible. Now what this new NIS does is exactly the same but is the GPU itself that applies this at driver level. From my understanding you must find into the game 3d settings new resolution values with various percentages (85/77/63/50%) so then the actual rendering resolution is lower than 4k but the GPU applies the upscaling to chosen desktop resolution, am I correct?

Yes it is correct. As soon as you activate NIS a bunch of custom resolutions based on your native res will be automatically created and you will able to choose them ingame. On top of that you can add some sharpening, which in my opinion is worse than the older one.

 

[ethomaz]

I reverted back to the older drivers, this new sharpening does not fully convince me. Besides, the option "ignore film grain" disappeared. I tested on CP 2077 and the IQ was worse, using native res + 0.50% sharpening and DLSS Quality, as I was doing before. Many surfaces got lots of flickering due to the sharpening. Maybe this new one is more aggressive than the old one and you need a lower percentage?

The IQ should be worst than native or anything DLSS related.
I'm not sure what were you expecting?
The performance should be a bit better... it is a trade off to gain performance.

 

[sertopico]

The IQ should be worst than native or anything DLSS related.
I'm not sure what were you expecting?
The performance should be a bit better.

Nope. I wasn't using any of the customized resolutions, only the sharpening slider (which I set at 0.5%) and DLSS quality. Compared to the older sharpening slider and set value I got a worse final image.

 

[MadViking]

I tried it in Shadow of the Tomb Raider and it didn't look very good. UI destroyed too by the sharpening. The built-in resolution scaling with CAS for me is much better, at the same performance.

 

[ethomaz]

Nope. I wasn't using any of the customized resolutions, only the sharpening slider (which I set at 0.5%) and DLSS quality.

Are you saying the sharpening filter makes the IQ worst? If that so then it is really interesting.
BTW DLSS already has sharpening filter. in the pipeline.. maybe that is why it is giving you bad results?

 

[sertopico]

Are you saying the sharpening filter makes the IQ worst? If that so then it is really interesting.
BTW DLSS already has sharpening filter. in the pipeline.. maybe that is why it is giving you bad results?

Sorry I edited my previous post. Yes, this newer iteration of the sharpening filter gives me worse results than the old one. DLSS does have some sharpening, but sometimes it's not enough, like in Cyberpunk for instance.

 

[Wunray]

This thing is very confusing but I got it to work on rdr2 it really helps with the taa in that game.

 

[xPikYx]

For sharpening reshade is the way

 

[WitchHunter]

Fuck, more acronyms. The acronym perverts surely have a hard on.

 

[WitchHunter]

KitGuruTech already has a fantastic NIS vs FSR vs DLSS comparison video up:

Timestamped to 4K NIS vs 4K FSR:

So... drumroll. No visible difference. More acronyms to fight with. When will they release a card game? So NV and AMD enhusiasts could settle the score once and for all.

 

[sertopico]

Fuck, more acronyms. The acronym perverts surely have a hard on.

DYLA?

ILA!!

 

[Stitch]

Now available in VR

Releases · fholger/openvr_fsr

Add Image Upscaling via AMD FidelityFX SuperResolution or NVIDIA Image Scaling to SteamVR games - fholger/openvr_fsr

github.com

 

[Xdrive05]

Bumping for a PSA on NIS and Cyberpunk 2077:

Because Cyberpunk doesn't run in exclusive full screen mode, you have to do one extra step to get NIS to actually work with it. In addition to turning on NIS in the control panel, you also have to set your desktop resolution to match the lower-than-native resolution that you set the game to:

If you have the NIS overlay turned on, then you will see it in the game now, and it will be green indicating that it is working.

CP2077 looks WAY better with NIS than with the internal scaler in the game. And at 85% my fps went from high 30s to low 50s using the Digital Foundry optimized non-RT settings.

I would highly, highly recommend this if you're on a GTX 1650 / GTX 1060 / GTX 980 tier card and trying 1080p. Also, try 20% sharpening or less. Any more than that gets a little too halo-y at 1080p.