ManaByte
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Yes but progression is nerfed in it and you can’t access the endgame legends content.
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Jeff Grubb: 'Sea of Thieves might be coming to Switch and PlayStation'
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Astray
Gold Member
It's no longer just Grubb reporting on this.. Totilo (and Warren) are on this too.
Heisenberg007
What exactly is the "new Xbox strategy"? Did Warren ever report anything similar?
Heisenberg007
What exactly is the "new Xbox strategy"? Did Warren ever report anything similar?
Horseganador
Member
All these have happened on the payroll of M$ and Xbox from denying everything to gladly admitting the "new strategy" of becoming third just after Christmas and that is the correct path to follow xDD
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
None. At least I haven't seen any original report by Tom Warren.It's no longer just Grubb reporting on this.. Totilo (and Warren) are on this too.
I think it is just now that multiple credible sources have reported it, and it's pretty much certain that this is what's happening, shills (like Tom) will start saying, "yeah, makes sense. This is Xbox's strategy."
Otherwise, this is the "spin" and cope I'm seeing.
Historicaly speaking, Sony is the one who contained SEGAs market, back in ps1 launch, devs have moved away from Peter Moore to Ken Kutaragi.
This felt appropriate too since Microsoft seems to be in the middle of their Dreamcast moment with the Xbox brand.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
ManaByte
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Sleepwalker
Member
They could keep their platform and also release their games in other platforms, they already do this with steam on PC despite having their own store.
Gamepass would most likely remain exclusive to Xbox platforms/PC regardless, so any extra revenue from people who didn't want to go into their ecosystem in the first place would be extra.
Gamepass would most likely remain exclusive to Xbox platforms/PC regardless, so any extra revenue from people who didn't want to go into their ecosystem in the first place would be extra.
Heisenberg007
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DForce
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None. At least I haven't seen any original report by Tom Warren.
I think it is just now that multiple credible sources have reported it, and it's pretty much certain that this is what's happening, shills (like Tom) will start saying, "yeah, makes sense. This is Xbox's strategy."
Otherwise, this is the "spin" and cope I'm seeing.
Spinning this as "console sales don't matter." lol
If this were the case, then they wouldn't try hard to make games exclusive after they acquired ZeniMax. If they put big games on PlayStation, then this proves that their strategy failed and they're looking at alternate ways to generate more revenue.
HeisenbergFX4
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That strategy will not work though. PC releases had an impact, but it wasn't big enough because PC and consoles are separate market with a smaller overlap.
PS and Xbox share 95% of the same game library and are in the same price range. As soon as they release their games on PlayStation, single-console owners would just start buying PS5 over Xbox because that console -- at the same price point -- would give them the best of both worlds.
There won't be a platform to keep. And I think Microsoft, at long last, has finally understood that it's okay to let their console hardware go.
Heisenberg007
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HeWhoWalks
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Badlucktroll
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Gambit2483
Member
Well at least the narrative is no longer "Should Nintendo Go 3rd party"?
I had to listen to that shit for half a decade.
Sleepwalker
Member
I honestly truly don't care for their console or their games, but it's better to just keep supporting what they already have out that just cutting off the cord, they still are and will keep making money from existing xbox owners even if the platform is going the way of the dodo so no need to pull the plug right away.
Proelite
Member
If one of them is living it means the other has to die. Zero-sum game!
In all honesty, you'll see a lot more Xbox stuff on Nintendo platforms, and some older MP games like Grounded, SOT on PS5. The ones going to PS platforms will be driven by metrics looking into how much of a system/game pass seller the IP is. SOT IP is likely not moving consoles/subs ever again so it makes sense.
People should be ready for a future where Sony and MS are more collaborative than combative. That doesn't mean they'll not have exclusives, They absolutely will.
Some of the 360 / PS3 era competition were a race to the bottom and that was unsustainable. It should be clear by now that Xbox and PS are both here to stay, so the goal of both companies should be to maximize profits instead of taking market share at the expense of the other. i.e. Sony has a vastly larger market share and yet their profit margins are abysmal.
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Heisenberg007
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Oh of course they won't pull the plug per se. It is just that they won't release another console.
Rumors are that they have already canceled the 2024 Xbox Series X refresh -- which makes sense if they have opted to become a third-party publisher instead. So Series X and S would be the last Xbox consoles in that case.
lughnasadh123
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Xbox: How do we fix things so we stop being in third
Fans: Release more games!
Xbox: *releases more games on other platforms*
Fans: Release more games!
Xbox: *releases more games on other platforms*
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Now if they release Ori 1 and 2 on PlayStation, I'll double dip and platinum the games on my PS5.
I don't think I'm interested in any other game they have. Maybe Grounded? But not sure.
I don't think I'm interested in any other game they have. Maybe Grounded? But not sure.
Mibu no ookami
Member
None. At least I haven't seen any original report by Tom Warren.
I think it is just now that multiple credible sources have reported it, and it's pretty much certain that this is what's happening, shills (like Tom) will start saying, "yeah, makes sense. This is Xbox's strategy."
Otherwise, this is the "spin" and cope I'm seeing.
Paul Tassi is so hurt.
dem
Member
Sony isn't going to reject a game...
Proelite
Member
None. At least I haven't seen any original report by Tom Warren.
I think it is just now that multiple credible sources have reported it, and it's pretty much certain that this is what's happening, shills (like Tom) will start saying, "yeah, makes sense. This is Xbox's strategy."
Otherwise, this is the "spin" and cope I'm seeing.
David is absolutely right. SOT is not driving console / gamepass sales and will never do so again as an IP.
Deerock71
Member
Why is this fucker so funny?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Anytime they release a popular game 60% of what you'll read on here is rationalizations for why it's fine to pirate it on PC and how the games deserve better and should be 3rd party. It never stopped really.Well at least the narrative is no longer "Should Nintendo Go 3rd party"?
I had to listen to that shit for half a decade.
Astray
Gold Member
Exactly. I follow Warren's reporting pretty closely, and I never saw him reporting any new Xbox strategy.
Unless he means Tim Stuart's comments? I think he did report on it?
He has more misery to come, this has been accelerating very quickly. Seems like a decision to pivot to some form of 3P was handed down by Satya.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Enjoyed it on Xbox but found it hard to get into.
Proelite
Member
Yeah, SOT as an IP is what it will ever be on Xbox and PC. The only way to get more value from the IP is to bring it to other platforms. Halo, Gears, Forza, etc will have sequels. SOT will not.
In addition, unlike SP games, it's not additive to the Gamepass / Xbox portfolio, akin to something like Hifi Rush / Pentiment would.
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Heisenberg007
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Even if he did report on Tim's comments, I bet he brushed it off after Phil's statement.
But everybody stupidly ignored Tim's comments, when they should have ignored Phil's. Tim was talking to investors, while Phil was trying to put off fires on Twitter.
Proelite
Member
Halo will have sequels so the IP itself will be capable of moving Gamepass / consoles. Not to mention the metrics will show that Halo, Gears, Forza has higher attach rate for new Xbox customers than SOT.
Astray
Gold Member
Even Judge is saying that Stuart basically gave the game away. It's utterly insane to think that the Division's CFO doesn't know every tiny bit about their plans for ports and new games! He's the one who has to make sure those plans make money! They're not gonna hide the existence of projects from him!
[Game Mess Morning] Grubb: "Sea of Thieves could come to Switch and PlayStation" Rumor - Microsoft
Honestly said it pretty clearly and people were convinced the CFO OF XBOX had no idea what they were talking about. Pretty funny to look back at lol
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dem
Member
I'd also support that
No matter how good Halo multiplayer is... it can't
Or.. just go 3rd party. But I'd hate for it to come to that, because I actually like the Xbox ecosystem.
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
They should port over their good games instead . . . once I can think of one.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Sea of Thieves Is an amazing game. Won’t fire up my Xbox much IF the PS5 port is cross progression.
DenchDeckard
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Sea of thieves will make a shit load of money on Switch and playstation tbh.
Just like a Minecraft type vibe.
Just like a Minecraft type vibe.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
More.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Is the kraken still lackin? I only tried it some when it first came out. I know it's a lot better now.