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Hideo Kojima announces Death Stranding Director's Cut for PS5

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So Kojima is working on a DS expansion for ps5 and that all new horror game for Xbox GP.
 
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Well well, I might buy this a third time if the haptics and trigger support are good.


Hard to beat the PC version with DLSS on an ultrawide 200hz panel with HDR1000 and gsync.

That said dual sense features would be worth it. Wish the could patch it haptics and trigger support on PC.
 
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You forgot the most important one: spend the most time removing all the useless clutter left by other players that only cares about getting the useless like.
I never removed anything lol
It was not a issue at all.
 
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Depending on how much new story content is added I may go through it again.

The key to enjoying this game to max is not do side quests or not go past 3 star rank earned for each side quest giver. This minimizes the grindy annoying bits big time and gives the game great pacing.

I also recommend people go slow with this one in general. It's meant to be a game where you're out in this big empty vista and an amazing song comes on so you stop to soak in the atmosphere.
 

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Aside from the MGS tease, nobody noticed the PlayStation Studios logo at the start of the video? Why is it there?
Because Sony is the owner of the Death Stranding IP and the publisher of Death Stranding and Death Stranding Director's Cut (even if they allowed Kojima to port it to PC with another publisher).

No this is not the case. Square Enix timed exclusive games doesn’t have PlayStation Studios logo in their trailers (as far as I remember).
This game has PlayStation Studios logo because it's a PlayStation Studios game. Square Enix don't have PlayStation Studios logo because they are Square Enix games and not PlayStation Studios games.

it might be coming to playstation as timed or full exclusive
Outside MLB, PlayStation Studios logo means full console exclusive. Outside MLB, that isn't a Sony IP, no Sony game has been released for other consoles. Death Stranding Director's Cut won't be released in other consoles.
 
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I wouldn't expect this update on PC for a while unless KojiPro says otherwise. DS isn't published by Sony on PC, so there's all kinds of weird hoops they have to jump through on this one.
Sony is the one who owns the IP and the publisher of this game, not Kojipro.

So Sony will be who will decide if they release this on PC or not. And in the case they decide to release it on PC, Sony will decide if they publish these version or if they allow to publish it on PC with another publisher, and when.

This trailer tells me 2 things:
1. Stealth reveal of Kojima Productions Sony acquisition (PS studios logo)
2. “I’m done with MGS, but it is in good hands” (fragile, handled with love all over the box)
PS Studios logo means PS Studios publishes this game. In the same way they published Death Stranding, Bloodborne or Returnal. It has nothing to do with acquisitons.

Weren't there rumors that Sony cut the budget drastically?
Very likely fake because the game is long as hell and Kojima always praised Sony.

So Kojima is working on a DS expansion for ps5 and that all new horror game for Xbox GP.
Kojima said covid really afected them so very likely this time they only did this and the PC port. This 'Kojima is doing a MS game' rumor seems to be fake, like the 'Sony rejected Kojima's next game', 'Kojima is making a game for Stadia', 'Kojima is working on Silent Hill', or 'Starfield being a 2021 game' rumors.
 
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The rumors I heard were that Sony said it was too dark, scary and made them change some things.
FUD and lies, all devs praised the creative freedom Sony gives them. And Sony published many dark and scary games in several ways like TLOU2, Bloodborne or Until Dawn.

Might be that Sony owns the IP? Not sure really. I think any game made for them as an exclusive has that logo now.
The logo means Sony is the publisher of the game, they use it in all the games published by Sony. None of the exclusives not published by Sony use it. And yes, in addition to this Sony also owns the Death Stranding IP.
 

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Kojima said covid really afected them so very likely this time they only did this and the PC port. This 'Kojima is doing a MS game' rumor seems to be fake, like the 'Sony rejected Kojima's next game', 'Kojima is making a game for Stadia', 'Kojima is working on Silent Hill', or 'Starfield being a 2021 game' rumors.

Nah Kojima new game on Gamepass is very likely real. Phil's shelf already prepared all of us.
 
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urgh. I was just gonna start it on PS4. already have it on pc too. now I need to hope it comes to pc so I can buy it again just to get the full version? fuck off kojima.

I guess I’ll hold off playing until I see what exactly has changed and if it’s worth buying.
 
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Nah Kojima new game on Gamepass is very likely real. Phil's shelf already prepared all of us.
Prepare yourself to be dissapointed, the most similar thing I see possible is to see the vanilla Death Stranding maybe going to Game Pass PC somewhere in the future.

They aren't a huge team, I think since DS release most of them were busy with the porting and this expansion, plus maybe working on the early preproduction of their next game that would be released several years in the future. And seeing DS was profitable, its PC port too, and now they release this together, I don't see why Sony or Kojipro wouldn't want to work together again. In fact, now Sony would be able to publish the PC port too.
 
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What a troll move that trailer, he perfectly knows what he is doing.

People wanted more metal gear you say?
 
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Depending on how much new story content is added I may go through it again.

The key to enjoying this game to max is not do side quests or not go past 3 star rank earned for each side quest giver. This minimizes the grindy annoying bits big time and gives the game great pacing.

I also recommend people go slow with this one in general. It's meant to be a game where you're out in this big empty vista and an amazing song comes on so you stop to soak in the atmosphere.
I personally enjoyed grinding the 5 stars of every base, it is a bit quite much tho, i went way past the 100 hours but surprisingly enough, most of the porters i encountered have similar playtimes and traveled distance, quite peculiar.
 
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Prepare yourself to be dissapointed, the most similar thing I see possible is to see the vanilla Death Stranding maybe going to Game Pass PC somewhere in the future.

They aren't a huge team, I think since DS release most of them were busy with the porting and this expansion, plus maybe working on the early preproduction of their next game that would be released several years in the future. And seeing DS was profitable, its PC port too, and now they release this together, I don't see why Sony or Kojipro wouldn't want to work together again. In fact, now Sony would be able to publish the PC port too.

Kojima clearly hinting at that 'episodic' horror game on Gamepass imo.

Interestingly, Geoff Keighley also tried to get some information about what might be next from Kojima Productions, and ol’ Hideo was his usual evasive self, but he did drop a few potential hints…

I can't really say specifically. It won't be like the past, it won't be one step at a time. [The pandemic] is a drastic change, just like after 9/11: we have to adapt and think about new ways of creating as entertainment can't fall behind. I have to think about what's going to happen in the future. If it was something like an alien coming into my game, it wouldn't matter much about the current state of the world. We could just make up any concept or ideas.
But I always want to put some societal elements into the game as a base into the game to introduce the players to what's happening and maybe they'll think about it. Of course, all the while be entertaining. With this speed of change I need to really consider which predication I make and which ways I introduce ideas to the player.
 
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I have zero hype for this …the original made clever use of placing objectives in far locations which had you walking from x to z and back to y for little pay off and the combat itself was just horrible
 

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The title of Kojima Productions is well and truly one of the productions benefiting from the brushstroke offered by the PlayStation 5, and this announcement comes in a typically "Kojimesque" video.
Death Stranding Director's Cut is therefore an improved version of the base game and seems to bring 60 fps as well as new content. This version will arrive soon on PlayStation 5.




More details in the coming weeks
this is my new favourite teaser OAT, or at least damn close
 

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I suppose the odds of the "new content" getting updated into the PS4 version are pretty slim?

I really want more Death Stranding, for sure, but I do not necessarily want to re-buy and replay Death Stranding to get to more of it (or buy a new console for it, for that matter).

So little of the game took place indoors so I am definitely intrigued at the sight of Sam traversing in an enclosed environment.
 
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I suppose the odds of the "new content" getting updated into the PS4 version are pretty slim?

I really want more Death Stranding, for sure, but I do not necessarily want to re-buy and replay Death Stranding to get to more of it (or buy a new console for it, for that matter).

So little of the game took place indoors so I am definitely intrigued at the sight of Sam traversing in an enclosed environment.
The great outdoors is what gave the game its vibe tho. For me at least.

Not sold on indoor locales, just the 60fps and the haptics.
 
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Sony is the one who owns the IP and the publisher of this game, not Kojipro.

So Sony will be who will decide if they release this on PC or not. And in the case they decide to release it on PC, Sony will decide if they publish these version or if they allow to publish it on PC with another publisher, and when.
Sony does not publish Death Stranding on PC. 505 Games does.
 

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Sony does not publish Death Stranding on PC. 505 Games does.
Yes, it's what I said.

As the owner of the IP, Sony decides in which platforms their game gets released, or if it gets a sequel, a spinoff, a dlc or a movie. They may hire someone to port and publish it somewhere else, or to do whatever they want with that IP because it's their brand.

Kojima clearly hinting at that 'episodic' horror game on Gamepass imo.
There are exactly zero hints to an episodic game, to a horror game, or to Gamepass. He literally announced a game for Sony instead that won't be released on Xbox. Just an expanded and updated version of the previous released not too far ago. Nothing too big because as he said they have been pretty fucked with covid and ported the game to PC.

And for what he says he's still figuring out what is going to be his next game. If it's a game.
 
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Yes, it's what I said.

As the owner of the IP, Sony decides in which platforms their game gets released, or if it gets a sequel, a spinoff, a dlc or a movie. They may hire someone to port and publish it somewhere else, or to do whatever they want with that IP because it's their brand.
Not really the case here. Kojima made the deal with Sony in 2015 for a PC release, which was before they were interested in publishing on PC themselves. The PC version has a few extra bits of content that the PS4 version still doesn't have (Half-Life stuff). I don't think Sony would sign off on giving things exclusively to PC if all the decisions were fully in their hands.
 

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Not really the case here. Kojima made the deal with Sony in 2015 for a PC release, which was before they were interested in publishing on PC themselves. The PC version has a few extra bits of content that the PS4 version still doesn't have (Half-Life stuff). I don't think Sony would sign off on giving things exclusively to PC if all the decisions were fully in their hands.
Nobody can't touch an IP without the greenlight of the IP owner. Sony greenlighted the PC port and the extra PC bits. In the same way Sega had to greenlight Bayonetta 2 being exclusive and getting Nintendo outfits.

Back then Sony wasn't interested to publish on PC but where interested on publishing the next Kojima game and to keep the IP for Sony. As part of the deal, they allowed them to release it on PC with another publisher to allow the dev to get extra money (and pretty likely Sony also gets a part of that money). That's all. Same goes with other 2nd party games, Sony also allowed other studios to release their games on PC with another publishers or by themselves (Flower, Journey, the Quantic Dreams games...), and they are still Sony IPs.

Sony didn't care if they included a few Valve items, in the same way Sega didn't care about Platinum including a Mario outfit on Bayonetta.
 
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Loved this game and lost a 150 hour save working towards plat, so will happily do this again with 60fps and a few extras.

DELIVER IT INTO MY VEINS HIDEO
 

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For them to resell this there must be a significant amount of additional content.
 

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I just bought the game on PS4 (dirt cheap) but I'll have to wait and see if it's a free upgrade like the FFVIIR.
 
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Cool game I'd like to try it on PS5 but whenever I remember the walk in this game I just can't repeat it tbh.

For me it's a one time play
 

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One of the worst gameplay I ever had the displeasure of playing and finishing. Story was a mumble nonsense typical of Kojima but it was pretty good. I will never touch this pos gameplay ever again not even if you pay me.
 

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Because Sony is the owner of the Death Stranding IP and the publisher of Death Stranding and Death Stranding Director's Cut (even if they allowed Kojima to port it to PC with another publisher).


This game has PlayStation Studios logo because it's a PlayStation Studios game. Square Enix don't have PlayStation Studios logo because they are Square Enix games and not PlayStation Studios games.


Outside MLB, PlayStation Studios logo means full console exclusive. Outside MLB, that isn't a Sony IP, no Sony game has been released for other consoles. Death Stranding Director's Cut won't be released in other consoles.
So is Kojima part of their PlayStation studios?
 

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This trailer was such an obvious love letter to MGS that I'm actually wondering if he's working on his own version of MGS..
 

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Yes, it's what I said.

As the owner of the IP, Sony decides in which platforms their game gets released, or if it gets a sequel, a spinoff, a dlc or a movie. They may hire someone to port and publish it somewhere else, or to do whatever they want with that IP because it's their brand.


There are exactly zero hints to an episodic game, to a horror game, or to Gamepass. He literally announced a game for Sony instead that won't be released on Xbox. Just an expanded and updated version of the previous released not too far ago. Nothing too big because as he said they have been pretty fucked with covid and ported the game to PC.

And for what he says he's still figuring out what is going to be his next game. If it's a game.

Idk, from the read, Kojima hinted that 'traditional' games are off his menu.

'no more like the past, no more one step a time' - sounds like he is going episodic.
 
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I think thats right

Kojima is just responding to rumours he is going back to MGS

The trailer is like saying "we've thought about jumping back in the box (MGS), but its not right any more"

That's exactly what I got from this video as well. Also see the 'Handle With Love' on the box. Probably means whoever takes up the MGS IP needs to take proper care of it.

Really nice touches by Kojima.

I also think he's teasing new gameplay that they added to Death Stranding. Some sorta extra game mode. Maybe to add some replay value.
 
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someone please remind him he is making a video game not a movie as much as he wishes and dream he could do that. this "director's cut" is nothing but delusional and ostentatious.
 

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Idk, from the read, Kojima hinted that 'traditional' games are off his menu.

'no more like the past, no more one step a time' - sounds like he is going episodic.
no more one step a time -this clearly means he want to do something brand new... not a bit new.
 

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I think it's gonna be like FF7 Integrade. New DLC for those who have the game already + free update for PS5 graphics buff.
 

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The great outdoors is what gave the game its vibe tho. For me at least.

Not sold on indoor locales, just the 60fps and the haptics.
A guy named Bridges with a Sam avatar gave me a thumbs up. Yo yo, you know it!
 

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Oranges in The Godfather represent Death or impending tragedy or danger. 👀
Then again could just be a box of Oranges. 😛
 
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Superb game but it's one of the most replay-unfriendly big budget games from a prominent developer ever.

If they bump up the difficulty and implement some truly game-changing features though I might be tempted to come back for another grind.