SoloKingRobert
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DigitalTrends is right. When I purchase a Microsoft game I can play it on PC and Xbox consoles via Play Anywhere, unlike other competitor consoles.
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Digital Trends: While the PlayStation 5 had immediate appeal, the Xbox Series X feels more and more like the best long-term choice this generation.
Fuck the internet in 2021
Here you go:
"Xbox Series X might not be the hot commodity as the perpetually sold-out PS5 is right now, but those scrambling to get Sony’s new console might want to consider jumping to Xbox. It doesn’t have the DualSense’s immediate toy factor, but it’s quickly making up for that with a long-term strategy that’s paying off more over time. If these consoles are going to be the focal point of our lives for the next decade, the Series X feels like the one that’s most prepared to keep up with the times."
x@3f*oo_e!
Member
Gotta say I agree on this one - reads like an advertorial.VALUE
That's how you know this was purchased. The buzzword got in. I'm not reading that shit, but does it say "pro-consumer" somewhere in it as well?
Also talks about Xbox being a "more social experience" which has been a red flag for MS astoturfers since way back.. Ticked that box for the paycheck.
I hate being this cynical
jezhumphrey75
Banned
how on earth is forza horizon not a system seller but another scripted 3rd person by the book games are.
x@3f*oo_e!
Member
That specific site didn't detect adblock on opera .. just saying
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Why does everyone here has a boner for Japanese games? Are you all weebs or something?
Krisprolls
Banned
No they won't either lol. Games run a bit better on PS5 due to better hardware optimizations, it's unlikely to change.
It's true Sony has far superior exclusives though, on that everybody agrees.
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Barakov
Member
Krisprolls
Banned
Yes, you can play all the shitty 60-rated MS games like Crackdown 3 or Bright Memory on your PC, but most people prefer Sony 90-rated games like God of War, go figure. It's almost like people prefer playing better games.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
One is a Spiderman game (kinda big IP!) that's universally praised, one is an arcade racing game, which has a much smaller mass appeal.
Krisprolls
Banned
It's not at all a coat of paint, Demon's Souls was remade from scratch and it's the most next gen game there is right now, something Series X can only dream of.
pasterpl
Member
forza, forza horizon, ori, flight sim, hivebuster, wastelands, gears tactics ...
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Krisprolls
Banned
... aren't on the same level as Sony 1st party, I know, that's the problem.
pasterpl
Member
agree, I spent so much more time playing forza horizon and I keep coming back to it and struggled to force myself to complete most of Sony 1st party games (uncharted 4 and gow are the only ones that kept me playing for longer than 30 minutes) but they all feel so similar that if I want any other experience I have to turn off my PS4.
Btw. even sea of thieves with low metacritic is killing it now across pc and Xbox
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Krisprolls
Banned
Sales, awards and ratings say most people agree with me and you're the minority though.
Otherwise Xbox wouldn't be so far behind in last place since like for ever. My 2 cents.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Silly game to play.
All of the below Xbox One games got a higher Metacritic score than Ghost of Tsushima (83). Yes, list wars are fun.
Ori and the Blind Forest, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Forza Motorsport 7, Forza Horizon 4, Gears of War 5, Rare Replay, Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Halo 5, Killer Instinct Definitive Edition.
I’ve not even included earlier games in the franchises listed above like Gears 4, Forza Horizon 3 and Forza Motorsport 6.
There’s also some very good games that just fell shy of an 83 rating like Gears Tactics, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Halo Wars Definitive Edition and Halo Wars 2.
Death Stranding only got an 82. Gran Turismo Sport a 75. Knack GOTY Edition 54 and Knack 2 69 (giggitty). Killzone SF a 73. DriveClub a 71. Dayz Gone 71. We can all list the misses.
The truth is, Sony had about 5 monster tent pole games this gen; Uncharted 4, TLoU 2, Spider-Man, Horizon and God of War. Bloodborne the best of the lot, but let’s be fair, it’s a Miyazaki developed From game. And the rest was okay. Dreams is extraordinarily critically reviewed but how many people even know about it, never mind play it?
What upsets me, is that the PS3 had a much better variety of genres and they were still pumping out high quality narrative driven games like Uncharted 1-3 and TLoU. Moving forward I can only see Microsoft having a massive variety of game genres which is what I used to associate with Sony.
SantaC
Member
They make good games? Imagine if the industry was only ubisoft, EA and Actvision.
Krisprolls
Banned
I won't play list wars with you, everybody knows PS4 had better games, including multiple games of the year like God of War, The Last of Us 2, Uncharted 4, Persona 5, Bloodborne... All those games were 90+. I don't know why you'd take Ghost of Tsushima as a reference unless you try to distort reality.
It's not close at all... But hey MS has Forza and Halo. The same series since original Xbox.
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Banjo64
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Ori and Flight Sim are 2 games from this year alone that have a 90+ metacritic. As I said in my post, 5 tent pole games.
As to your edit, Ghost is the reference because it’s the latest Sony exclusive and many people are putting it in their GOTY lists.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Well sure, that’s a truism.
The point is, GamePass’s game selection is finite and limited. The service doesn’t include every released third party indie and AAA game. So any assessment of the service’s value will be fundamentally predicated first and foremost on the perceived value of the current service’s game selection.
If you only listen to posters on the forums and articles like the OP, you’d think the fact that it’s cheap is the be all and end all of the value equation. The fact is, there’s much more to it than the simple monetary cost of the monthly subscription.
Krisprolls
Banned
Flight Sim is a simulator, not even a game, it's not even playable on Xbox, you need a keyboard... Ori is ok as a platformer.
But that certainly doesn't make up for the tons of superior AAA games we got on PS4.
If people thought like you and not like me, sales wouldn't go 3:1 worldwide to Sony... Just saying.
thelastword
Banned
Liking XBOX more is fine, however the reasons given does not resonate well with long term success for XBOX. We cannot obsfucate reality. Long-Term and XBOX are basically antonymous going by history....OG XBOX severed in 4 years, 360 was done in late 2009 as far as exclusives, Series X was severed in under 2 years......So long term has not been good for them and usually the fruit runs dry way before the expiry date.
Gamepass did not make XBOX ONE a more long term or appealing console, if anything it diminishes the appeal of the console because everyone can pay $1 and play a much superior version of each MS exclusive on PC, besides the quality of XBOX first party has been severely lacking. The long term appeal to keep purchasing the system is just not there with it's current push for gamepass, the exclusives are severely diminished in value just by being on gamepass.....
Never forget, consoles were made by these manufacturers to be successful, they publish games to sell millions of copies. MS's current gamepass bandwagon is not sustainable, people usually pay a higher price for what they prefer and what they deem a higher quality product...I am subscribed to gamepass and Ill be honest, I have not checked what's new on there since Gears 5. I should probably try Hivebusters to see what all the fuss is about...,but trying something mostly because it's cheap is so different than paying $60 for a high quality goty caliber game you've been waiting for......
What's their output? What are the Meta's....What quality games have they put out so far this gen....This is how a band of Studios' should be judged....Out of all these studios, what launch game from them has made the XBOX Series X look mighty powerful with it's 12TF, what game has made people rush to buy an XBOX?"Power Your Hate"
Sony is irrelevant and always has been.
Xbox just never had the full backing of Microsoft from Nadella but Phil changed all that.
Sony could not go into a bidding war with Microsoft to get Bethesda. Like Phil said, they are not our competition. Microsoft started last gen with like 8 studios and now look at how they ended the gen. Xbox generating more revenue in history, 23 studios, Game Pass Digital Gaming Service and X Cloud Streaming. Xbox is now the largest gaming company in the world. Microsoft killed it last gen and still have not really gotten serious yet, alot more is coming. Sony did good too, they sold PS4s.
This is what real power looks like.
jezhumphrey75
Banned
Gt ps1 before xbox, God of war ps2 so going back as there have been xboxs, what's your point.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Sony have sold 150million PS4s? Wow, impressive stuff.
Have you even played either Ori game?
You don’t know what you’re talking about, you can play Flight Simulator using a controller on PC and it works very well, which many reviewers spoke about in their reviews.
Jethalal
Banned
Why would you even do that bro?
jezhumphrey75
Banned
flight SIM is coming to series consoles, no keyboard needed, ori is just ok? Ye t if it was on PlayStation it would be AAA....agenda much
Gudji
Member
Don't bother with delusional people. PS4 has one of the best libraries ever, the rest is fanboy talk.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Indeed. If they for example launched XboxSX with Banjo Kazooie 3 and Halo 6, both being excellent, things would look drastically different right now. But for some reason MS can't make it happen.
SkylineRKR
Member
I used the PS5 a fuck ton when I got it but now that the novelty worse off its collecting dust. I get much more mileage out of the Series S because of GP and the games I never got around to play.
Krisprolls
Banned
Except it's only the name, the older games have nothing in common with God of War 2018.
I'm sure you don't want to play list wars. This generation is going to be a lot different as Microsoft is investing heavily into content (games) because of Gamepass.
I'm willing to bet that games like Avowed, Fable, Hellblade 2, Starfield, Horizon 5, TES6, etc, won't score in the 60s and that microsoft will publish plenty of games in the 80s and 90s.
Krisprolls
Banned
Nah, I got it on PC, you can't fly an airbus just with a controller, that's dumb. There are like a thousand buttons. Lol
This is a simulator, not a game, and it's made for keyboards...
HeresJohnny
Member
That’s what I’m kinda banking on. If it’s gonna take them a year or eighteen months to get both systems with healthy support, then why not wait an adddition year to buy the inevitable Pro versions when they come? And even if the Pro versions don’t come you’re certain to see a price drop in that timeframe, maybe two if one of them gets desperate.
Banjo64
cumsessed
You literally can.
Krisprolls
Banned
I didn't use the Series X at all when I didn't get it because it had zero exclusive, but now that the novelty wore off it's collecting dust in the store. I get much more mileage out of the PS5 because of PS+ collection and the games I never got around to play.
Plus it has real next gen games like Demon's Souls or Miles Morales
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Mista
Banned
I have no PC.. but do have a Series X and switch ..
I know , right , maybe different strokes for different people .. just a guess.
Mista
Banned
You do you as long as you're happy
lepermessiah
Member
Microsoft has no problem with this as long as you are using a Windows based PC which everybody does anyway. Also dont forget to check out PC Game Pass.
Lmao steam all the way sir.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Spider-Man Remastered, and Demon's Souls. I myself have bought Miles Morales but am playing through The Last of Us Part II again before I get into it.
SkylineRKR
Member
Well I'm a Playstation guy but someones apparently butthurt for liking GP. The Series S is my first Xbox since 2007, when I sold my 360. Which means I missed out on a ton of Halo's, Forza, Gears games as well as KI, Sea of thieves, NG2 etc. GP is simply a great deal.
For PS5 Plus Collection, I only didn't play Days Gone. I think a lot of gamers who had a PS4 for 7 years have played all of them. I bought DMCV and Demon's for it, finished both. Alongside Astrobot. No plans to buy another game until Rift Apart or Kena is out. For Series S I just don't buy shit (well, bought Yakuza at launch tbh, since its a better version than Pro), and yet its getting lots of play time. Some friends have GP on PC and we play Sea of Thieves together. Its really good value. I think no one can deny that.
I don't like paying full whack for a game I play for like a week anymore. I stopped doing this with movies about 10 years ago, and I don't mind if games follow suit.
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Krisprolls
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And here is the other problem with MS strategy : on PC it won't be easy to make people pay for Game Pass, even if it stays 10 dollars per month, because there are tons of cheap alternatives like Steam or Epic Store or Humble Bundles.
You get tons of great games nearly for free on PC. I don't think even a 10 dollars Game Pass subscription is good value on PC. You get tons of great games on PC for 120 dollars per year. Games you can choose and keep for ever, and play when you want. Unlike on GP.
But if they don't get that many PC subscribers, it means they rely mostly on Xbox installed base, which isn't much. I don't think Game Pass may ever be deemed profitable enough by MS if it doesn't catch a great number of PC players.
Basically GP will fail and ultimately close shop if they don't catch PC gamers, and I'm not sure they'll succeed on that market.
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