I only just found out Tesco stopped doing their petrol voucher scheme. I have some in my drawer, went to use them, and got told they no longer do it. So pissed off.$7,625.88 CDN.....
That's about 200 Tesco Clubcard points.
I only just found out Tesco stopped doing their petrol voucher scheme. I have some in my drawer, went to use them, and got told they no longer do it. So pissed off.$7,625.88 CDN.....
That's about 200 Tesco Clubcard points.
40% of smartphones users in Germany are 45 and older. And that's a number from 2012. Don't know what it's now.
http://de.statista.com/statistik/da...teilung-der-smartphone-nutzer-in-deutschland/
You're correct, but the want to conquer it, and the requirement of money, is still present in both.
It's that same kind of itch in your head that pushes you to keep going, often until you are completely out of money.
To take that info and then extrapolate that therefore most parents will understand how PSN/XBL/AAA games/MTs work and how some games are designed to encourage you to spend is disingenuous at best
PSN,XBL, AppStore, GooglePlay. Candycrush, AAA ... You can expect people to understand similar concepts of things they already know. Sure it's not 90% of the parents, but this is not some arcane knowledge in the year 2016. But if people prefer to be stupid and give out their credit card without any limits then it's their problem.
My dad is in his mid 50s and he has no idea about MTs, he doesn't even have a modern phone, so he has no exposure to them at all.
It's not bullshit to assume most people are not as tech savvy as those who are under 30
So your dad would just hand over his creditcard/bank card details to you? You don't have to be tech savvy to realise that's a damn stupid thing to do (yes even for 'emergencies' - lol).
I'm 42 btw, And over my dead body would my son ever get anywhere near my bank/card details.
Lol"There will never be another Xbox system or any gaming system in my home."
RIP in peace.
So your dad would just hand over his creditcard/bank card details to you? You don't have to be tech savvy to realise that's a damn stupid thing to do (yes even for 'emergencies' - lol).
I'm 42 btw, And over my dead body would my son ever get anywhere near my bank/card details.
So your dad would just hand over his creditcard/bank card details to you? You don't have to be tech savvy to realise that's a damn stupid thing to do (yes even for 'emergencies' - lol).
I'm 42 btw, And over my dead body would my son ever get anywhere near my bank/card details.
If he steals it I'd want my money back off my kid, or punish him, I wouldn't want it back off the company. Why would the company have to pay out for an idiot kid?Ok, sure, you don't let your kid near your account info, card number, whatever. What if he steals it, finds the information out somehow and spends all your money on some MT BS. Wouldn't you want your money back? You wouldn't be upset that a game let the kid spend that much in the first place?
At least he has the sickest MUT team in the world......
Ok, sure, you don't let your kid near your account info, card number, whatever. What if he steals it, finds the information out somehow and spends all your money on some MT BS. Wouldn't you want your money back? You wouldn't be upset that a game let the kid spend that much in the first place? It's not like these are physical, finite goods, it's an infinite amount of digital stats. What would EA have to lose from refunding you over an obviously dumb mistake on your kids part?
If he steals it I'd want my money back off my kid, or punish him, I wouldn't want it back off the company. Why would the company have to pay out for an idiot kid?
If he steals it I'd want my money back off my kid, or punish him, I wouldn't want it back off the company. Why would the company have to pay out for an idiot kid?
If you or a minor you are responsible for buys something you don't want, you normally want a refund
and if the store you purchase from doesn't offer refunds then you have to accept it. I can't go put a bar bill on my dads card and ask for a refund once I've drunk it all.
"There will never be another Xbox system or any gaming system in my home."
and if the store you purchase from doesn't offer refunds then you have to accept it. I can't go put a bar bill on my dads card and ask for a refund once I've drunk it all.
The real tragedy in this story
this is more like you going to a strip bar somewhere in eastern europe and buying 4 beers then later on finding out that you were charged $8k for them. But hey, prices were listed on the menu!
You can fight this with credit card company if you are part of western world. Only problem is that then MS or Sony will ban you from their store.
Yet another case where a reasonable spending limit should be implemented.
Honestly I wish these "rare item chance" or "consumable" purchases were made illegal. It's all a load of shit.
Also the guy doesn't have to file police charges to claim fraud. Whatever credit company said that is full of it. He may need to contact the Canadian version of the FTC or an attorney but he shouldn't pay that bill.
Absurd that Xbox refused to reverse the charges too.
The real tragedy in this story
I didn't know having to pay more to have more is bad.Another proof that microtransaction is the best business model ever, can't blame the companies for using it, kinda easy extra money.
But from the customers point of view this is the worst thing ever. And this thing is evolving, I would not be surprised if the movie industry would jump on it as well. Sitting in the movie theater and at some point they pause the movie and pay if you want to continue or on the blu-ray release they can put in microtransactions for extra scenes. "if you want to see the after credits stringer then pay more" etc
But in this case it's just stupidity from the father and the monkey
Charge the kid with fraud
Tough love
Reminds me of the time I cost my parents a $350 phone bill when phone bills were usually $25/mo, back when the "internet" was just a long distance modem call away.
Kids and parents both suck. Confirmed.
It's not that stupid. I had my parents credit card when I turned 16 to use for gas. But I learned about personal responsibility and how money works. The few times I did use it for personal purchases, I would A) tell my parents beforehand, and B) pay them back.
Ok, sure, you don't let your kid near your account info, card number, whatever. What if he steals it, finds the information out somehow and spends all your money on some MT BS. Wouldn't you want your money back? You wouldn't be upset that a game let the kid spend that much in the first place? It's not like these are physical, finite goods, it's an infinite amount of digital stats. What would EA have to lose from refunding you over an obviously dumb mistake on your kids part?
Back in the day, the arcades near my house used to fill to the brim on the weekends with children pumping their allowance into arcade machines, quarter by quarter.
We could easily spend $10 a day on games like Willow, The Simpsons, TMNT, X-Men... not because we'd never played them before, but because that's about how much it took sometimes to finish the game and get some satisfaction out of it. Some of those old games were rigged to be unfairly difficult at times, so no matter how good we were, eventually we would get the dreaded Game Over / Insert Coin screen. Then we would put in another quarter and keep going, hoping for the best.
I implore you to explain to us how that kind of mentality is so different than someone sitting in front of a slot machine for hours upon hours, endlessly pouring their money in for a chance to win the jackpot.
This is half accurate. It isn't just the stamina system that gets removed but also content unlocking is a thing. You are describing Pokemon Rumble World (which has a retail release now) and Pokemon Picross (which is play free for a year to earn enough points to buy all content or spend £30+ to unlock all content which is far less content that the Picross-e series has to offer for the same price).While this story could've ended less absurdly if common sense was used by either of the two stupid sods in question, it does remind me of how well Nintendos been treating f2p. In the Pokemon f2p games, which have the classic energy/crystal mechanic, there's a hard spend limit at I think £30. So the most you can spend before they remove all the energy nonsense is the price of a regular game. It's pretty clever and if similar price limits were the law across all f2p these stories could finally stop popping up.
For a few of those f2p games it is actually those games being structured in such a way that there is a limited amount of content to buy which is one way of limiting spending. Of course something like Fifa Ultimate Whale is not designed to have limited purchases.Just no.
What if people HAVE the money to spend so much on a game? Then let them.
The stupid decisions made by some people should not have an impact on everyone else.
There are already many precautions in place to prevent wild spending. Some people just can't be bothered and when it happens, find someone/something else to blame.
like, he had to keep buying fifa points over and over again to buy packs. what a little shithead, especially for someone who's under a year away from being a fucking legal adult
he's 17. not 5. he's entirely to blame - by the time you're 17, you should have a basic understanding of this kind of shit
Hear hear. Couldn't have said it better myself.How are people blaming EA for this? Boggles my mind. My 8 year old understands what micro transactions are for goodness sake. A 17 year old with a credit card has no excuse whatsoever.
And why should there be imposed spending limits? Forget kids for a second, if you wanted to drop 1,000 on a game you should be allowed to. Are there spending limits at casinos? At bars? At restaurants? All places you can rack up a huge bill with non-refundable purchases. Heck, most bars don't even list drink prices on the menu. Let alone have three different confirmation screens before purchasing.
Every time I read one of these stories people come out of the woodwork claiming predatory practices and our children and ignorant parents are at risk of spending too much money on a game because reasons. All I ever see is a mistake on the parents part. They either didn't set parental controls, let the kid have their password, let the kid have their credit card, etc etc. I'm sorry. There's no do over if your kid breaks a neighbors window or drives your car into a tree. You have to be educated about what your kids are doing and potential pitfalls. Don't just hand them an expensive device with your credit card tied to it and expect them to be responsible.
I feel bad for the parent. Truly I do. The kid took advantage of him. But I stop feeling bad watching him cry to the media that this is all so unfair and the company took advantage of him somehow. It's ridiculous. My only hope is that more people read these stories and take steps to prevent their own kids from doing something like that.
How are people blaming EA for this? Boggles my mind. My 8 year old understands what micro transactions are for goodness sake. A 17 year old with a credit card has no excuse whatsoever.
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You think a casino in Vegas would give a person their money back after they max'ed out all of their credit cards and emptied their bank account because they didn't know when to stop? They could try telling them that it's not their fault because the casino allowed it to happen, but I'm pretty sure they would get laughed off of the premises.
Give an **** your credit card... wait for the bill
Does his 17 year old have learning disorder or disability?