ShadyAcshuns
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I usually play as an elf in these kinds of games.
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Shut0wen
Member
So true, only news im disappointed by is the game is made up of zones instead of being freeroam which is no biggie but it sucked ass in outerworlds so hopefully they have learnt something from that game
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
It’s not Skyrim. Honestly I don’t care
Die Namek Ability
Member
Cool. Then i hope they're happy with me also shaving off some of the compensation so I can focus my money elsewhere.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They themselves distanced from Skyrim comparisons a while ago by name, so if anyone was still doing that, it's on them
Hero of Spielberg
Member
There go my role playing dreams of being a polyamorous dwarf bard 
Die Namek Ability
Member
Is the game not coming to PC? Or being concerned about that automatically makes you an xbox concern troll?
Google the word "Projection"
Zannegan
Member
I guess, but I don't necessarily mind an intentionally limited scope, especially if it gets the game out faster. Been waiting for a new Elder Scrolls forever, and I bet when it does come out it will have all the races and romance options that are missing from Avowed, but it will all be so generalized and safe that they'll basically feel the same anyway.
With that said, not having classes was a bold choice, and one I'm not best pleased with. Worst of both worlds--limited in scope but also general in execution.
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Topher
Gold Member
Nah....Obsidian has some responsibility here as this game has been all over the place from the start.
JusticeForAll
Gold Member
With every new trailer or info, my disappointment grows.
I don’t see how they do. Things change during development and they communicated that change nearly a year ago.
I mean, this just seems like the good planning/management people keep demanding from XGS. They’re playing to their strengths. And it’s not a new concept that scope gets finalized during pre-production.
Everybody is perfectly fine if you don’t buy or play the game, tbh.
Die Namek Ability
Member
Keep eating shit and your overlord will keep serving it.
Their last game landed at 87 MC and nothing I’ve seen from Avowed has me worried or concerned.
You can try posting the review you read from the future where it was judged as ‘shit’
Good thing I own every gaming platform known to man, so I curate on quality. But you tried
Die Namek Ability
Member
Oh look at me i have black friends so i cant be racist.Their last game landed at 87 MC and nothing I’ve seen from Avowed has me worried or concerned.
You can try posting the review you read from the future where it was judged as ‘shit’
Good thing I own every gaming platform known to man, so I curate on quality. But you tried
You do you man. Ill vote with my wallet, sorry that bothers you.
Everybody votes with their wallets when review scores show up. Take Redfall, for example.
Hey
demigod
Topher
Gold Member
Well, I do. This is a game that I'm not sure the folks leading the way have ever had a coherent vision of what this was going to be. If you disagree then that's fine. Hopefully it is a great game either way, but my expectations are pretty low at this point.
Pejo
Member
I feel like this game is poised to disappoint a ton of people at little fault of the devs. They aren't trying to make something on the level as BG3 or Elder Scrolls and seem to have been pretty clear about that, but people are still setting themselves up to get really angry about it.
I don't personally think it looks very good, but for a AA western RPG release, I've seen worse. Seems like one of those games to go in with low expectations and you might actually enjoy it. I felt the same way about Gotham Knights, coincidentally.
I don't personally think it looks very good, but for a AA western RPG release, I've seen worse. Seems like one of those games to go in with low expectations and you might actually enjoy it. I felt the same way about Gotham Knights, coincidentally.
Die Namek Ability
Member
So whats your issue then? If you agree with my stance why are you so defensive that i stated that?Everybody votes with their wallets when review scores show up. Take Redfall, for example.
Hey
They keep cutting or not including content that is expected and you think it will review well off the hot releases of games like BG3?
Answer these simple questions.
Everything else being equal, would it be better if the game had 2 races or would it be better if it had 6?
Why?
Can a game with a good MC score still be shit?
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the maddening thing there is that there’s nothing we know that’s being ‘cut’.
They’re making an RPG game without classes (not unheard of, not strange), they’re not designing romance in (design decision, not unheard of) and they plan only two races in the game. These are design decisions.
It would be better if Avowed had more than 2 races. It’s also probably not really that significant to most people, doesn’t break the lore, and will be a smart move if designing with only two races allows them to focus on making a great game.
I guess this was what many devs were saying last year about forced comparisons to BG3.
Phase
Member
I've been pretty negative about this game so far, but mainly because I haven't seen anything that distinguishes it from other RPGs or action adventures. Other games I can think of do those things better. Mechanics and combat are most important for me, and it looks duct taped together. They've got ideas but doesn't seem like there is any clear vision. It's just loads of stuff to mix and match.
Not sure how long it's been in development, but it would be disappointing if it's indeed being rushed out.
Not sure how long it's been in development, but it would be disappointing if it's indeed being rushed out.
DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
Who cares its FP only. Just crouch and voilà you're a Dwarf.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The game concept started more closer to Skyrim but Obsidian didn't want that and changed the scope of the game some ways after announcement.
Avowed - Is not Skyrim | News @ RPGWatch
Feargus Urquhart tells PC Gamer what type of game Avowed is:
rpgwatch.com
darrylgorn
Member
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Okay, but can I play as a gay elf? or does that take too much dev work?
IFireflyl
Gold Member
Holy shit. Did ResetERA buy NeoGAF and nobody told me?? What's next? Complaining that we don't have enough trannies in the game?
Final Fantasy XVI said they weren't putting a bunch of black people in their FANTASY GAME because that time period and area in REAL LIFE didn't have a bunch of black people, and a ton of NeoGAF members defended that with their lives. "The vast majority of the population in this area is one of two races, so we restricted character creation to these two races." That's a legitimate reason. This is supported by the wiki for Pillars of Eternity:
RACE(S)
- 40% Meadow folk
- 30% Wood elves
- 10% Coastal aumauas
- 5% Ocean folk
- 15% Other
Edit: Apparently this was sarcasm. Nothing makes sense on the Internet anymore.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
This was always going to happen. People can ruin another game for themselves if they want. I'll most likely end up enjoying it. Their loss. Nothing can really stop people from ruining a game for themselves if they really want to.
Pedro Motta
Member
Oh, I thought only low standards and delusion mattered here.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
I wanna know the connections between the elves and the Nazis.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Well, if people created a thread for every single thing a game does not feature for every game, and not just Avowed, there would be no space for discussion for anything else.
It's just silly to see all these made up rules of what Avowed "should" have, just to say it doesn't.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Pedro Motta
Member
Phase
Member
bender
What time is it?
Raven77
Member
I'm telling you right now, again, read the tea leaves.
Avowed will be a very small scale game. Small game world, small number of choices, races, character classes, enemy variety, the list goes on.
So will Indiana Jones, so will Senuas
Sacrifice.
The reason is that Microsoft is in panic mode because they have no games. So the games that they do have in development are being scaled back to release sooner.
I have no clue what their future strategy is. I don't really understand many of the decisions they have made. As a lifelong fan, it hurts.
Avowed will be a very small scale game. Small game world, small number of choices, races, character classes, enemy variety, the list goes on.
So will Indiana Jones, so will Senuas
Sacrifice.
The reason is that Microsoft is in panic mode because they have no games. So the games that they do have in development are being scaled back to release sooner.
I have no clue what their future strategy is. I don't really understand many of the decisions they have made. As a lifelong fan, it hurts.
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Stuart360
Member
I think thats a little harsh and conveniant thing to say as we already know Hellblade will be a shorter game like the orig game, the devs themselves said it.
Indiana Jones isnt an open world game or anyhting like that, and will probably be similar length to Wolfenstein 2 and Machine Gmes other games, so like 10-15 hours or so, but it would of always been that length.
Avowed is hsrd to say, its been in development for so long now, and i see no reason why it wont be as big and as long as The Outer Worlds, a game they funded themselves, with i believe a shorter dev time than Avowed.
People will try and twist into being what you said but i dont agree.
_Idea_of_Evil_
Member
My biggest concern is that they may have fully backpedaled on magic casting with your hands as was shown in the teaser reveal. The wand combat doesn't look good imo.
That aside, I don't see an issue with the race selection if it makes sense story/lore-wise to play as a human or elf.
That aside, I don't see an issue with the race selection if it makes sense story/lore-wise to play as a human or elf.
gtabro
Member
Because 99% of people form their opinion of the product on the version released on Day 1 (or week 1 at most).
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