Craig of War
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Ok we will see
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All-new PlayStation Plus launches in June with three flexible membership options
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ManaByte
Member
PS5 can’t read CDs.
TheGodfather07
Member
Yeah and Sony exactly how to do that. Which is why they have been so successful. Why you think they going after live service games? They are changing and shifting to match the trends. We can have our opinions but ultimately they mean nothing. Sony are in the business and know much more than any of us possibly can.
Swift_Star
Banned
Way to low the bar of the conversation, buddy, don't project your feelings and problems on me with deranged assertions. Disgusting.
"It's welcome and long overdue": Analysts on PlayStation's new subscription service
The news that PlayStation is reconfiguring and merging its subscription services is long overdue, and should result in …
www.gamesindustry.biz
Goodman says there is huge growth opportunity for PlayStation. PS Now's current audience is around 5% of Sony's console install base, he says, whereas Game Pass has appealed to over 40% of the Xbox fanbase.
"40% of their install base is the benchmark [for PS Plus Extra or Premium]," he explains. "But even if they get up to 20%, or even 15%, I would make the argument that that would be really successful. Maybe not by comparison, but certainly from a revenue perspective."
Trying to do the ARPU/Revenue change.
Hitchyhero
Banned
From someone who's gaming on xbox atm with Gamepass.... The mid tier seems somewhat worth it.... But that high end tier is terrible. Paying extra to steam PS3games.... What were they thinking.
shoplifter
Member
Does not apply to digital purchases, which many of us made in good faith, but fair point about the CDs themselves.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
cool
Thirty7ven
Banned
Just so dumb.
You announce this shit two months early? Really? No catalog announced? Fuck of Sony, I'm this close to taking my money elsewhere. Ok so you're telling me I will be able to spend more money, COOL
You announce this shit two months early? Really? No catalog announced? Fuck of Sony, I'm this close to taking my money elsewhere. Ok so you're telling me I will be able to spend more money, COOL
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SteelCurtain 59
Member
That's definitely my only real gripe with Game Pass, no discount for buying in 3 month or 12 month quantities like most subscription services offer
graywolf323
Member
Sony probably saw how successful Nintendo has been getting people to pay more to stream N64 & Genesis games
Aguero9320
Member
Nothing to see here. Didn’t want PS Now, don’t want this. It’s actually got me thinking do I even need PS+ as I don’t play online…
Sony is in a rut IMO. They’re doing well now, but if they are too scared or feel too comfortable to change and innovate and just rely on their current popularity it won’t be too long before they find out the market is value driven and most people are fickle.
This isn’t “concern” btw which seems to be the fanboys attack of choice on anything that doesn’t love everything.
Even the biggest Sony fans are having to fight to sound excited about this crap. It’s not offensively bad or anything, just boring and predictable. I was hoping for competition, to drive Microsoft to fight even harder - this shit isn’t that. It’s bog standard and not very good generic sales and marketing.
Sony is in a rut IMO. They’re doing well now, but if they are too scared or feel too comfortable to change and innovate and just rely on their current popularity it won’t be too long before they find out the market is value driven and most people are fickle.
This isn’t “concern” btw which seems to be the fanboys attack of choice on anything that doesn’t love everything.
Even the biggest Sony fans are having to fight to sound excited about this crap. It’s not offensively bad or anything, just boring and predictable. I was hoping for competition, to drive Microsoft to fight even harder - this shit isn’t that. It’s bog standard and not very good generic sales and marketing.
Belthazar
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Gamepass Ultimate, the one that also includes Gold, is $180 yearly tho, as it doesn't offer a yearly option on their store. It's literally $60 cheaper than Gamepass Ultimate.
Also, why would you pay it monthly when it offers you an annual option? Microsoft should follow suit and offer a discounted yearly option tbh.
ethomaz
Banned
I my opinion MS is pushing for market share.... they are spending a lot of money for that... if it will work or not we will only see on future.
But when they stop that marketing push we will see how day one, or the price of their services, or quality of titles, etc will stabilize.
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Inviusx
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Pretty sure PS1/PS2 software emulation works fine, local PS3 emulation seems impossible on these machines which is why it's only offered via streaming.
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RoadHazard
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Sure, but the question was about using your original discs. But yeah, letting you play your digital purchases of those games would be nice.
Roman Empire
Member
Will stick with tier 1 until I see the catalog. Still... I feel it's a bad move to make the ps classics being locked on the last tier. Show me your damn games Jimbo.
begotten
Member
Doubt it. They will handpick and mostly select what people know and want with the initial 340. You really trying to play up the "2% of library" point.
You think it's a bad thing we can't stream American Idol or MTV Celebrity Deathmatch, and bad that they're being left out of that 2%?
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Erm, ok.
Companies in business do sometimes make errors. And not even deliberately!
Unknown?
Member
If you're wanting niche games, yeah. All the big titles will likely be there.
If Microsoft had called Xbox Live Gold ‘Gamepass Lite’, you warriors would have been screaming blue murder about MS padding the subscriber count
Anyone with brains will compare the two upper tiers of PS Plus with Gamepass.
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Umbasaborne
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Bummer, i dont get why their bc offerings cant be as robust as microsofts. Hopefully the selection of ps1 and 2 games will be vast to make up for the lack of ps3 downloads
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
This is about as lame as I expected it to be
Still have my PSX, PS2, 2X PS3's, Had PS4 but sold it for lack of interest, PSP and Vita
Zero Interest unless I can stream from PC without a console never got to play that FOTNS Lost Paradise game (which never came to PC for some stupid reason)
Still have my PSX, PS2, 2X PS3's, Had PS4 but sold it for lack of interest, PSP and Vita
Zero Interest unless I can stream from PC without a console never got to play that FOTNS Lost Paradise game (which never came to PC for some stupid reason)
ethomaz
Banned
That is what I said... the exceptions.
Look at PS+ and PSNow releases and list the day one launches.
You will probably count in one hand.
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Haha fuck off you bellend.
arealhumanbean
Banned
How could you know it's disappointing if there isn't a list of games released yet? People are truly childish here. I'm waiting for the list - then I will judge if it's worth it. I hope that they will offer some great price for gamers updating from essential tier.
Chukhopops
Member
So pretty much what was expected, is there any details about the splashy line-up or will that come later?
Swift_Star
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TrebleShot
Member
That is not their current operating model and as I posted previously in the thread they are moving to include more third party games, this is simply showing the proof they are making moves to do this.
Topher
Gold Member
Because consoles only have two modes:
- Excitement mode: pure adulation and joy in full 4k
- Disappointment mode: disgust and disdain in 1080p
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the cheapest way to get GPU (ignoring the upgrade) is to get the 3month cards from retailers
Topher
Gold Member
Death Stranding
God Of War
Marvel's Spider-Man (+ Miles Morales)
Mortal Kombat 11
Returnal
Some of these game were in the PS Plus collection. Most have already been played by PlayStation fans.
You don’t expect them to change their stance on day one launches for their major AAA titles, but I'm surprised Sony couldn’t be arsed to launch MLB into this service…especially when it’s heavily monetized with MTX.
God Of War
Marvel's Spider-Man (+ Miles Morales)
Mortal Kombat 11
Returnal
Some of these game were in the PS Plus collection. Most have already been played by PlayStation fans.
You don’t expect them to change their stance on day one launches for their major AAA titles, but I'm surprised Sony couldn’t be arsed to launch MLB into this service…especially when it’s heavily monetized with MTX.
Filthy Casual
Member
Seems reasonable.
Anybody expecting first party games day 1 was deluding themselves, it was never on the table.
Anybody expecting first party games day 1 was deluding themselves, it was never on the table.
Loxus
Member
Well Jim is right, PS1-2 games look bad. Especially when compared to PS4-5 games.Straight out of jimbo's mouth.
"Why would anybody play this?" says Sony's Jim Ryan about backwards compatibility
Backwards compatibility support on PlayStation 4 is a feature many want, but only a few will actually use, according to…www.vg247.com
And I agree with him.
BC for PS1-3 is highly requested, but is actually not going to be used much when people start playing them and realize how bad they look.
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ethomaz
Banned
Moving? What proof? One game? They already did that with others games in the past but it was never a moving trend... it was about an indie they wanted to promote/help just like well that link you posted.
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DenchDeckard
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I guess they will be selling the ps1, ps2 and psp games separately though right? That would be pretty awesome.
graywolf323
Member
sure at Black Friday when retailers put them on sale, but otherwise those cards are just paying for 3 months at full price up front
Calverz
Member
Yes. Through retroarch and duckstation.
Calverz
Member
Lol no. Why you think that? It’s subscription only.
graywolf323
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only God of War was, MKX was but not MK11 and someone can correct me if I'm wrong but Spider-Man & Death Stranding definitely weren't