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[ZehDon]

They also helped Bethesda with Fallout 4's gunplay, which was actually not too bad.

This seems pretty darn likely to me, given the history id have of helping other Zenimax studios.

 

[oldergamer]

4CHAN RUMOR

IT'S NOT REAL

This!

 

[Laptop1991]

They also helped Bethesda with Fallout 4's gunplay, which was actually not too bad.

This seems pretty darn likely to me, given the history id have of helping other Zenimax studios.

This as well ^, while Fallout 4 wasn't a good RPG, the gunplay was one of the best thing's about the game, and better than New Vegas and Fallout 3's gunplay.

 

[Akuji]

id Software has the single best shooter gameplay for single player content. They could help push Starfield onto the next level. Really hope this is real. Probably not gonna play Starfield but i want a extremly good game for Team Green to show Phil that big games ARE what the NEED.
We need competition for high caliber games.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[XXL]

Did you check the link ?

The one single animator being referenced there helped with 'additional animations'. Not combat mechanics.

Additional Animation - Redfall (2023) - PC, XB SeriesX

I read it, I'm just stating what was said. Nothing more.

 

[Captain Toad]

That sounds promising. The exploration looked great, but that combat looked.... well, it looked like Bethesda RPG combat.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Do the other changs have anything to say about? I'm talking 1chang, 2change, 3change, and 5chang.

 

[VN1X]

Delay to 2024? Taking all bets.

100%

 

[Varteras]

Considering I found myself not liking Doom Eternal, if this is true, not sure how I feel about that.

doom eternal movement in a nutshell

www.youtube.com

 

[phant0m]

Bethsoft world with iD combat? hooooooooooo daddy I might cum

 

[Solidus_T]

Believing a 4chan rumor is just setting yourself up for disappointment. I would have been playing the Elden Ring DLC if 4chan was legit

 

[Juza]

Nothing really new, id Software has been working on improving shooting experience in Bethesda games since Fallout 4.

 

[yurinka]

Sounds as a good idea. But seems that in Redfall didn't help.

 

[Arsic]

If it’s delayed it’ll be to end of this year . Microsoft has all hope lying on this game at this point, and they have the starfield direct incoming.

Honestly what they showed back a year ago was good. Just needed 60 fps.

It’s my most anticipated game.

 

[lem0n]

Any sort of "overhaul" this late in the development cycle isn't my favorite thing ever but I'm sure the game will benefit from it. I have a high tolerance for Bethesda jank but I still worry about this. Really Starfield and GTA VI are the only games I really give a shit about right now.

 

[March Climber]

4chan should be straight up a banned source. It's a message board with anonymous posters. Why the fuck do we care what they say?

They claimed the Elden Ring DLC would he announced way before it did and got the name wrong calling it Bane of Disputant. They claimed a Bloodborne port was coming and that was bullshit. Almost everything that comes out of that place is a bunch of horseshit so why do we even bother posting crap from there?

4CHAN RUMOR

IT'S NOT REAL

Rumor [4chan]​

a /v/tard is not a real source

Such strong stances. This thread will either age amazingly or terribly. Even with 4chan it’s usually a 50/50 chance.

Remember, all those rumors of Sega projects leaked there too. So if you want them to always be wrong, that means no new Crazy Taxi or Jet Set Radio projects

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Well the game is not made with iD tech 6 or whatever they call it so uh...

 

[Lasha]

Such strong stances. This thread will either age amazingly or terribly. Even with 4chan it’s usually a 50/50 chance.

Remember, all those rumors of Sega projects leaked there too. So if you want them to always be wrong, that means no new Crazy Taxi or Jet Set Radio projects

The validity of 4chan on gaf is directly proportional to how much the news benefits Sony.

 

[CGNoire]

Would certainly be a good idea if true

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Chainsaw baby!

 

[The Infectious Paradox]

Hope so. Combat in that trailer looked rough and plummeted my hype. We'll see.

 

[In Cold Blood]

Meh. Bethesda already has good combat and shooting mechanics with their previous games.
I'm sure they wouldn't be adverse to getting it even better from one of the best in the buisness, but that's about it.

 

[Pelao]

I always trust my favorite system administrator, 4chan.

 

[HawarMiran]

Please delay it if it needs it

no need. The modding community always has Bethesda's back

 

[SF Kosmo]

…

If you weren’t aware:

id Software did assist with the combat in Redfall.

http://[URL][URL][URL]https://wccft...pment-since-prey-shipped-id-software-helping/

[/URL][/URL][/URL]

At least one guy from id worked on "additional animations." That's a long walk to what you said.

id has helped on most of Arkane's stuff since Bethesda bought them, and most of their games are based on id Tech.

 

[The Pleasure]

Delay to 2024? Taking all bets.

2024? Remember how long it took from doom 3? Bethesda X id Means 2032

 

[Hawking Radiation]

 

[Ansphn]

…

If you weren’t aware:

id Software did assist with the combat in Redfall.

Redfall Began Development Shortly After Prey Shipped, Id Software is Helping With the Game

The announcement of Redfall kind of came out of nowhere, but apparently, the game's already been in development for some time.

wccftech.com

Damn you just destroyed my hope

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

pardox indeed.

The conversation around this game is going to be rough and somewhat unfair.

we all know bethesda has never made a polished game nor excel in smooth gameplay, in fact; jank and Behtesda go hand in hand.

So, i hope the redfall situation dosen't scare Xbox/Bethesda and push them into a forced error trying to fix something "unfixable".

 

[Mokus]

Could have been worse, imagine 343i helping them.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Well, shit! What the fuck happened there then......

They sent over their interns. You know the kind that only brings them coffee in the morning.

 

[SneakersSO]

Firstly, wasnt this the exact same thing that happened for RedFall? How did that pan out.

2nd - I did some work on Starfield since August. Can confirm this is not true. You also wouldn't be able to completely overhaul a combat system in a game like that in a year.

 

[3liteDragon]

Firstly, wasnt this the exact same thing that happened for RedFall? How did that pan out.

2nd - I did some work on Starfield since August. Can confirm this is not true. You also wouldn't be able to completely overhaul a combat system in a game like that in a year.

Wait are you a dev on the game or am I somehow reading this wrong?

 

[Johnny Concrete]

Tango Gameworks helped them with the scary creatures and there’s this one planet with Nazi’s on it, luckily Machinegames was available to give them a hand with that…

 

[Fredrik]

Did you check the link ?

The one single animator being referenced there helped with 'additional animations'. Not combat mechanics.

Additional Animation - Redfall (2023) - PC, XB SeriesX

If id is truly helping out with the actual combat in Starfield, and not just additional animation, then…

But we’ll see. The COD with astronauts part is one of the low points of the previous showcase.

 

[Riky]

Good news if true, obviously being helped by the best in the business can only be a good thing.

 

[Barakov]

4CHAN RUMOR

IT'S NOT REAL

Here what I'm going to do : I'm going pretend ID helped Todd Coward and co. and Starfield's gunplay is going to be nice like Doom 2016/Eternal.

 

[ChiefDada]

overhaul the whole engine while you're at it

They already have. Starfield is the first game developed on Creation Engine 2.0

 

[DragonNCM]

 

[Fredrik]

okay now I want that everytime I find a new astronaut helmet

 

[Corndog]

…

If you weren’t aware:

id Software did assist with the combat in Redfall.

http://[URL]https://wccftech.com/redfall-in-development-since-prey-shipped-id-software-helping/

[/URL]

Where does it say Id helped with the combat?

 

[Corndog]

They sent over their interns. You know the kind that only brings them coffee in the morning.

No trolling on neogaf I see.

 

[ZehDon]

Considering I found myself not liking Doom Eternal, if this is true, not sure how I feel about that.

http://[URL][URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fIrzx82rNao

[/URL][/URL]

I'm not the biggest DOOM Eternal fan either, but that's mostly for the overcomplexity it forced into the combat loop (weapon hot swapping, at-speed verticality, ammo economy, litany of activatables) as opposed to the nuts-and-bolts gunplay. In terms of weapon feedback, gun handling, model positioning and sizing, and so on, DOOM Eternal is pretty solid, mostly because DOOM 2016 nailed these aspects already. Even RAGE, which is my least favourite id game by far, still has pretty solid gunplay.

 

[Fart Knight]

Rip and fart

 

[Varteras]

No trolling on neogaf I see.

No whining either

 

[Fabieter]

Boom!

Pray this is real and this is what ms/Bethesda should be doing. Lean on those studios to help each other.

This should have happened with redfall, too.

Like they did?

 

[GymWolf]

This as well ^, while Fallout 4 wasn't a good RPG, the gunplay was one of the best thing's about the game, and better than New Vegas and Fallout 3's gunplay.

Really not hard to achieve tbh, those games were an extremely low bar gunplay wise.

 

[cireza]

Sounds like a good idea.

 

[L*][*N*K]

Bungie helped with Fallout 4, I don't think it is a very meaningful contribution and personally I don't expect a Bethesda game to have amazing combat, I am here for the world and the exploration anyway.