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[staticneuron]

Americans stop projecting your culture on the rest of the world.

This is a case of the rest of the world using elements from our culture. Everyone's culture has been shared with others in the world because of how information moves and is accessed. But blackface is simply offensive because of how OTT it is. Blackface in america is offensive because of more than just how OTT the makeup is but because the imagery is normally associated with a large number of negative stereotypes back in the day.

The problem stems from it being included in hollywood production and various media, which has then since been transmitted across the globe and most likely influenced others in different countries without realizing the source of it. Blackface isn't really racist. It doesn't embody hate, it embodies ignorance. And sometimes ignorance is just as bad as hate.

 

[Slayven]

This is a case of the rest of the world using elements from our culture. Everyone's culture has been shared with others in the world because of how information moves and is accessed. But blackface is simply offensive because of how OTT it is. Blackface in america is offensive because of more than just how OTT the makeup is but because the imagery is normally associated with a large number of negative stereotypes back in the day.

The problem stems from it being included in hollywood production and various media, which has then since been transmitted across the globe and most likely influenced others in different countries without realizing the source of it. Blackface isn't really racist. It doesn't embody hate, it embodies ignorance. And sometimes ignorance is just as bad as hate.

I was doing a call back to the Jackson jive thread.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Just saw it on Kulturnyheterna.

It was disturbing more than anything else IMO.

And now I will eat this Swedish pastry.

Can you guess what this is called?

It kinda looks like this pastry I saw in a middle eastern market that translates to "nigger kiss" iirc. Don't know if that is the same thing.

 

[Tacitus_]

It kinda looks like this middle eastern pastry that translates to "nigger kiss".

No the negro kiss is a different sweet. Although it hasn't been called that since late 90's.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

No the negro kiss is a different sweet. Although it hasn't been called that since late 90's.

Well that's what I saw on the label and it was like 2-3 years ago. I don't think it was covered in nuts though.

 

[IceCold]

edit: oops wrong thread

 

[Tacitus_]

Well that's what I saw on the label and it was like 2-3 years ago. I don't think it was covered in nuts though.

Looked like this?

 

[Hari Seldon]

I definitely like white cake much better than double chocolate. I can see why people are bitching.

 

[Zabka]

Americans stop projecting your culture on the rest of the world.

Blackface is a part of that culture we projected out there. We're taking it back! USA! USA!.

 

[Vagabundo]

I definitely like white cake much better than double chocolate. I can see why people are bitching.

Not a chance. The more chocolate on the cake the better IMO.

My sister in law makes a coconut cakes covering chocolate syrup that I call cocaine cake because it is so damn addictive.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Not a chance. The more chocolate on the cake the better IMO.

My sister in law makes a coconut cakes covering chocolate syrup that I call cocaine cake because it is so damn addictive.

Your like my wife, loves the chocolate. I prefer white almond cake with coconut icing.

 

[Devolution]

You both should try mocha cream cake. So good.

 

[Vagabundo]

mm looks nice.

There is a great cake café place in Dublin called Queen of Tarts. Always makes me lol. We need a Cake OT.

 

[D_prOdigy]

I can't help but read the thread title in a Chris Morris on The Day Today voice.

"TEENAGE BOY ROASTS HIMSELF IN SACRIFICE TO CHRIS KELLY"
"MINISTER IN RACIST CIRCUMCISION OUTAGE"
"AND HEADMASTER SUSPENDED FOR USING BIG-FACED CHILD AS SATELLITE DISH"

 

[The Faceless Master]

So, uhh.. the artist is black.

E: Here he is posing with some of his pieces:

skin that light? he's obviously mixed. not pure black, and by the looks of his 'art', he must hate the black side of himself.

 

[MasLegio]

It's seriously a freaky-ass picture. Ugh. Makes it worse that there is a plethora of clueless white people gleefully smiling at the grotesque cake.

it is this that is the core of the art installation. The white people of various cultural importance laughing and photographing the screaming blackface girl being eaten alive.

 

[dojokun]

I do wonder what the thread would look like if the title was "Black Artist Makes Black Person Cake to Protest Female Circumcision," and had a picture of the artist (without makeup) in the OP in addition to the pic already there.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

skin that light? he's obviously mixed. not pure black, and by the looks of his 'art', he must hate the black side of himself.

He's less of a black man than you are huh.

 

[mattiewheels]

It's weird to hear that blackface is a purely American boogeyman...but without that context in their culture I suppose I could see why Europeans have no clue. I mean, the Dutch have a pretty well-meaning holiday tradition of it. I guess because it's not black people they're referencing?

 

[Onemic]

It's weird to hear that blackface is a purely American boogeyman...but without that context in their culture I suppose I could see why Europeans have no clue. I mean, the Dutch have a pretty well-meaning holiday tradition of it. I guess because it's not black people they're referencing?

Zwerte Pete is black

 

[mattiewheels]

Zwerte Pete is black

Oh, didn't know, thought is was referencing chimney soot or something. Hmm

 

[Stitch]

Looked like this?
http://i.imgur.com/eaLs2.jpg

it's delicious when you put it in a bun

 

[Alucrid]

Oh, didn't know, thought is was referencing chimney soot or something. Hmm

no no no. they got covered in soot. and then ate a bunch of red popsicles. and got some perms

 

[v1oz]

Focus people.

This is about cutting out pieces of vagina's. This happens in Africa as part of tradition.

They made a cake to symbolize this and give attention to these inhumane habits.

The story goes beyond what you see. It is ignorant to call racism just based on the picture.

What about cutting pieces of penis? How come no one made a cake about that to highlight the issue, since its a part of tradition in some places?



And slight correction they don't out pieces of vagina, they cut out the labia and the clitoris. Vagina is left intact.

 

[Jenov]

The video is disturbing in so many ways...

 

[PdotMichael]

What about cutting pieces of penis? How come no one made a cake about that to highlight the issue, since its a part of tradition in some places?

I hope this is just ignorance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation#Immediate_and_late_complications

 

[LuCkymoON]

So, uhh.. the artist is black.

E: Here he is posing with some of his pieces:

Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husbands.

 

[Kayo-kun]

Well we do have icecream called Nogger Black and 88 in Sweden. We also have chocolate coconut balls which are often called... yeah I think you can figure it out.

I am personally disturbed by all this, but most people in this country don't seem to be able to realize how offensive this is.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Looked like this?
http://i.imgur.com/eaLs2.jpg[/QUOTE]

Yes that's it, it tasted good actually. I don't know if it was negro kiss or nigger kiss because the name was written in Arabic letters, and they usually don't write out the vowels so it was written as "ngr" kiss.

 

[Supermanisdead]

What about cutting pieces of penis? How come no one made a cake about that to highlight the issue, since its a part of tradition in some places?

Are you kidding me?

 

[Onemic]

Are you kidding me?

had to come out eventually

it is this that is the core of the art installation. The white people of various cultural importance laughing and photographing the screaming blackface girl being eaten alive.

Maybe in some fucked up way this was actually his message. That the entire event and the people involved was his "art" and the people laughing while eating the crotch of a screaming female blackface cake was all apart of the overall message he was trying to convey. That the west doesn't give a fuck about female circumcision in Africa. That's all I got for why he decided to go through with this.

 

[Parallax]

Maybe in some fucked up way this was actually his message. That the entire event and the people involved was his "art" and the people laughing while eating the crotch of a screaming female blackface cake was all apart of the overall message he was trying to convey. That the west doesn't give a fuck about female circumcision in Africa. That's all I got for why he decided to go through with this.

if thats true, then as fucked up as it is, its pretty genius.

 

[Bossun]

if thats true, then as fucked up as it is, its pretty genius.

Actually, I think it's pretty good. Watching the video is disturbing, and it makes you think of mutilation. He did a good job in transcribing the horror of the thing.

He might have made a mistake in how he depicted black people but that comes after the message to me.

And if the white people laughing were part of the exposition then yes it is genius.

 

[CrocMother]

It's weird to hear that blackface is a purely American boogeyman...but without that context in their culture I suppose I could see why Europeans have no clue. I mean, the Dutch have a pretty well-meaning holiday tradition of it. I guess because it's not black people they're referencing?

This requires more explanation...

 

[kame-sennin]

Let me give you some facts that will help you in life.

Blackface is racist. Period. The percentage of situations in which blackface would be appropriate is so small as to be statistically negligible. The fact that Sweden just happens to have fewer black people around to make their voices heard about it does not make it less racist.

People who supposedly need to have this explained to them are feigning ignorance. Blackface is not only offensive because of its history. Blackface is offensive because it clearly caricatures black ethnicity, distorting African features to portray blacks as ugly and subhuman. Everyone knows this, but some people will resort to intellectual dishonesty in order to defend racist practices.

I do wonder what the thread would look like if the title was "Black Artist Makes Black Person Cake to Protest Female Circumcision," and had a picture of the artist (without makeup) in the OP in addition to the pic already there.

The minister can't be racist, she has a black friend! The artist is an idiot looking for publicity, and he is hijacking an important cause - female circumcision - for his own benefit.

 

[el retorno]

This requires more explanation...

There´s a yearly thread on this.

 

[The Faceless Master]

He's less of a black man than you are huh.

he's looks more white than black, look at his complexion. why is he being labelled as black?

 

[PdotMichael]

he's looks more white than black, look at his complexion. why is he being labelled as black?

That's some bizzaro world racism... He is not black enough

 

[Log4Girlz]

The second they 'blackfaced' that cake (well, the head at the end of it), all other dialogue disappeared into a hole from which light cannot escape.

A black hole?

 

[Mechazawa]

A black hole?

You son of a bitch.

 

[CLEEK]

skin that light? he's obviously mixed. not pure black

So he's not black, because his skin is literally not pitch black? Got it.

I guess by that rationale, I'm not white then, either.

 

[CLEEK]

Well we do have icecream called Nogger Black and 88 in Sweden. We also have chocolate coconut balls which are often called... yeah I think you can figure it out.

When I first moved to Australia, I briefly shared a house with a Swedish couple who were also recent arrivals. On our first trip to a cafe together, the guy went up to the counter to see what they had, then innocently asked 'are those nigger balls?'.

I know Australians have a reputation for being racist, but man, that did not go down well with anyone.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

What is an example of non-racist blackface?

tropic thunder?

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

That's some bizzaro world racism... He is not black enough

Yeah, I'm confused.

 

[Onemic]

When I first moved to Australia, I briefly shared a house with a Swedish couple who were also recent arrivals. On our first trip to a cafe together, the guy went up to the counter to see what they had, then innocently asked 'are those nigger balls?'.

I know Australians have a reputation for being racist, but man, that did not go down well with anyone.

Really? I always hear Australians talk about how people usually view others based on where they're from(ie US, UK, Canada) rather than their race. But then again they did have all those fucked up immigration laws back in the day....

 

[CLEEK]

What is an example of non-racist blackface?

Pappa Lazarou.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2F4ZWTjwTU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_Lazarou

His face really is black and white like a minstrel, and he has to paint over it with make up to appear normal. Papa learned the makeup skills to cover his minstrel face from his various wives.

 

[jaxword]

Honestly, the fact that it was the minister of culture doing this is what made me assume it's probably not meant as racism, it's just extremely clueless and stupid.

Basically what I was saying, yeah.

 

[Bgamer90]

This is the sickest thing I've seen in a while.

I understand the "art" point of it I guess but it's still sick and the people laughing while cutting is just really disgusting to me.

 

[Zeppelin]

When I first moved to Australia, I briefly shared a house with a Swedish couple who were also recent arrivals. On our first trip to a cafe together, the guy went up to the counter to see what they had, then innocently asked 'are those nigger balls?'.

I know Australians have a reputation for being racist, but man, that did not go down well with anyone.

They guy was obviously didn't know the correct translation. 'Nigger balls' wouldn't be the correct translation. The Swedish word is (was, until it became politically incorrect) 'negerboll', where 'neger' does not translate into 'nigger'. Although now often considered a derogatory term it traditionally pretty much just meant a black man.

As for the ice cream stuff you gotta be fucking delusional to think the intention there is even remotely racist.

 

[MasLegio]

They guy was obviously didn't know the correct translation. 'Nigger balls' wouldn't be the correct translation. The Swedish word is (was, until it became politically incorrect) 'negerboll', where 'neger' does not translate into 'nigger'. Although now often considered a derogatory term it traditionally pretty much just meant a black man.

As for the ice cream stuff you gotta be fucking delusional to think the intention there is even remotely racist.

88 is my favourite Ice Cream
although there is no connection with Nazism and the icecream I think I would take the Gary Whitta approach if there were