Thabass
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If its' truly CMA, then I can understand it, but isn't DF in the UK? Why are they getting special treatment? Something doesn't add up.
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Eurogamer why our Starfield: review will be late (DF unaffected and will be on time)
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AtomicStarving
Member
Personally, don't give a damn about game reviews, but it's kinda sus huh 
Killer8
Member
Edge are still harsh ("they use the whole scale!"), but the prestige of them being one of the few truth tellers in gaming evaporates once you look behind the anonymous nature of the articles. Their staff have all done a ton of freelance work for other shitty rags like The Guardian, Vice, Kotaku and Polygon. So there's nothing actually unique about them or Eurogamer. It's just the other cheek of the same journalistic arse.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
But Jizz got the code, blasphemy.
DF are the most popular tech analysis site at the moment, Todd likes to watch it and It would look like a massive red flag if they weren’t given access to a game made by a developer with a history of bugs.
solidus12
Member
The amount of slurping he does might have contributed to this.
Crispy Gamer
Member
I mean it was a bad look they shared a code with DF with instructions that even Rich said was unprecedented so they had to give Eurogamer a code after the blowback, this was a sad thread to read Bethesda/MS was obviously wrong in this situation regardless if you agree with a review. I wonder how some would've felt if Sony gave a code to NXgamer for his Ign graphics breakdown with explicit instructions that no other part of ign would be provided a review code 
..lol it's just a strange situation that should've been avoided before a big release
..lol it's just a strange situation that should've been avoided before a big release
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
And you’ve seen the report that an hour after Eurogamer published the report that they hadn’t received a review copy, Bethesda magically sent them one. Nothing about it adds up, just Bethesda pulling shenanigans and causing problems for no reason. Either share the codes or don’t, why make this situation where outlets feel the need to go public because Bethesda makes an unnecessary situation where there are inexplicable Haves and Have Nots and no one knows what the hell is going on. PR blunder for sure.
Harsh = “they’ve published reviews I disagreed with”
You just have to do these little bits of translation quite a lot, because people won’t use writing to convey what they actually mean.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Without even digging up the rest, just the last point you made being answered with anything but something that sounds like “ok, well the flip flopping over Pro consoles + the scaling is simple / engines scale yadayada stuff they peddled when XSS launches contradicts what concern they are raising about Pro consoles now that only one console manufacturer is rumoured to be launching one does make it reek of bias” would be very odd.
Which is why I guess you will just be ignored and a new goalpost will be erected when it is difficult to find this post anymore
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Thabass
Member
That's irrelevant if it's a CMA issue. If it's truly a CMA issue, it wouldn't matter if Todd Bethesda likes them or not, they wouldn't be able to get a code. Why are Eurogamer shunned and DF isn't?
Take out the feelings that Todd Howard or even Phil Spencer has for EG/DF if CMA is an issue, because those opinions aren't part of the equation if it's a regulatory issue.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Todd loves DF and respects them greatly. I doubt it was ever a question they’d be provided codes.
Thabass
Member
That's one hell of a PR blunder. Almost makes it seem like they just "forgot" about Eurogamer.
They didn't just forget
Banjo64
cumsessed
Are you an alt? I notice you stopped posting for 3 years and only resumed recently, and you are now mainly posting in Microsoft threads (mass posting at that). Has your other account been banned recently?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Makes you wonder just a little.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Oh it was deliberate for sure. They had a list of people to send codes to, and clearly a list of who not to. I’m still curious to know the Why, behind-closed-doors “fly on the wall” reason that only higher-ups like Hines or Howard know. I could guess, but I’d love to know the unbridled truth.
Maybe Phil and Matt Booty saw Eurogamer’s story about being withheld despite DF and called Hines and were like WTF dude, we don’t need bad press like this.
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Isn’t it obvious to you that it isn’t a CMA issue?
I have to question the sanity of anyone thinking that’s the reason. The game is going on sale in the Uk anyway. How does it strike a blow at the CMA to deny certain UK outlets codes?
Jeez
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Thabass
Member
Yeah, hence my questioning on it. They have a clear reason, I'm assuming that Eurogamer has been a thorn in their side for a while or something. Either that, or the CMA is a real sticking point. Either way, I think Microsoft is big mad about the CMA holding up a certain sale.
It probably isn't, but I'm still questioning it regardless. Especially since we have no answers. I don't just assume something is true until I get actual facts.
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Looks like you’ve already woven a convenient, preemptive narrative for the review thread
Cyberpunkd
Member
At the end of the day:
Tens of outlets will still review the game on time. Euro gamer has nothing of substance to add than rehashing bullet points in the press kit.
Tens of outlets will still review the game on time. Euro gamer has nothing of substance to add than rehashing bullet points in the press kit.
Ginzeen
Banned
Of course Xbox content creators got a review code. More news at 10....People who are currently playing and reviewing the game: Jez, Rand, Nick Spheshal. Even Colt Eastwood got a copy, but Edge and SkillUp didn't. Yep, makes sense
Jesus...imagine putting so much emphasis on ethnicity in a fictional world in a damn game review. The game creator can make the whole cast blue lizardmen for all I care its his game and its not like they purposely put in offensive or bigoted content. Normally eurogamer was a great review site from my past recollection, Im hoping this is a rare instance from a single reviewer?
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Whose fault is it? Not MS, nope… no way… how could they?
solidus12
Member
anything less than universal acclaim would be considered a low blow for Xbox, considering the amount of hype that game has generated.
Did microsoft just throw a hissy fit and say screw you to all uk outlets?I dont think even they can be so petty, but only giving reviewcopies to select outlets that are partial to bethesda games does not look too good. It seems like they are trying to get that metacritic score up on launch by hook or crook..I would have hoped they would be very confident in their game instead of this.
?I dont think even they can be so petty, but only giving reviewcopies to select outlets that are partial to bethesda games does not look too good. It seems like they are trying to get that metacritic score up on launch by hook or crook..I would have hoped they would be very confident in their game instead of this.
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Killer8
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Harsh in the context of Edge = they have a consistent, documented pattern of scoring games lower than the Metacritic average.
It's not my personal take, it just is what it is. And it's mostly because of the way their scoring methodology works (a 5 from Edge = average in the truest sense of the word).
But their practice of low-balling the average also shouldn't elevate them to a status of somehow being more truthful or honest than other publications. Once you see past their scoring as being part of their brand, they are basically other publications in terms of their staff makeup behind-the-scenes.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
If Colteastwood got a key then my dog should have gotten one, he's a undeniable douchebag who will literally deepthroat Phil live on stream without hesitation just to boost his gamerscore.
Majormaxxx
Member
Boo hoo
Ginzeen
Banned
Many outlets and people gotten a code. Only some outlets didn't get one. Euro gamer and edge lmao. It's easy to see why they didn't get one. Nothing burger.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Expect more of this in the coming days.
At least we're seemingly moving on from the "but Bethesda is not really Xbox" narrative now.
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Hero of Spielberg
Member
Good to see the NeoGAF moral cavalry riding to the defence of …. Eurogamer??
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Expect more of this in the coming days.
At least we're seemingly moving on from the "but Bethesda is not really Xbox" narrative now.
DeepEnigma
see, ignore, spin a new narrative, rinse and repeat .Well, in the game of Game Publishers and early product reviews there aren't really good actors, so if you pit them against each-other like that all choices are pretty equal.
graywolf323
Member
might have something to do with as to why Xbox Era gets a code for Starfield and Pure Xbox doesn’t
Lucifers Beard
Member
Oh fuck off you whiny cunts. These kinds of articles make me cringe on a primal level.
‘Wah we didn’t get a game to play for free, Wah’.
‘Wah we didn’t get a game to play for free, Wah’.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
Last time I checked there were a couple of other outlets capable of reviewing games than Eurogamer
Bethesda not giving some outlets keys is driving you to insist that all other outlets around the world are paid reviewers?
Nah. That’s on you.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Exactly
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What will these crazy kids think of next.
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