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God of War Ragnarök | New Trailer - State of Play | PS4, PS5

EDMIX

Member
God of War is a long going serie, TLOU was just one successful game when they did the big thing. I don’t see how the IPs are comparable at all.

Well thats the thing, 20 million plus units sold wasn't even enough for them to keep a character as the face a IP for many, many sequels going forward, why would they care about a character in a IP that has already had their time to shine and move units?

Its even more likely cause the world of God Of War doesn't even view death the same way, so i don't see that Sony gives a shit, they allow their teams to have lots of freedom and that means allowing for a new character to take over and move on. The fact that it was even rebooted like this shows how much creative freedom Sony gives, so I don't buy that anyone is safe under this publisher to move units or something.

So its a long running series alright, with MORE then enough titles to cement the character, those games will always be there and he will be in Valhalla ready to give guidance to his son. Understand I'm not comparing the IP, I'm showing the publisher is the same, they allow freedom and if the story is that he gets it in this title, then so be it. We've seen many IP under Sony where a new character shows up or something, I don't buy they care that much about any of that considering the level of freedom they allow.

A Jak 4 was 100% allowed to be stopped in favor of a new IP, if Sony really, really..REALLY cared about selling a character more then the world, they wouldn't allow for Uncharted to exist, they would just have them make Jak by force, have them keep The Last Of Us 2 the same as 1 or something. Its why I even stated that Ghost 2 may not even be about Jin, it may not even be on Tsushima, that shit might be called Ghost Of Osaka lol Ghost Of Sendai lol They are more open to allowing the team to move on, in a IP like God Of War, we've seen dead ass 3 generations of this almost 4, him going wouldn't even be a shock at this point, its like "oh shit again?" lol
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
The trailer is fucking beast.


They were correct to hold off on showing it lol

Day 1. Not many day 1s for me this year, but this one deserves it.

"Have you ever had people worship you? Pray to you?” damnnnnnn, I love that they are questioning his title of "GOD" of war, as if him killing gods didn't mean he took their place in regards to worship, respect etc. So far I'm loving this story, lore that questions Kratos as a person, a man and a god.

This is how you do reboots and maybe before this it was unknown if such a reboot was even feasible so deep in a IPs life, this shit has legit become the standard of God Of War lol I've never seen something like that happen with any IP thus far. Like reboot after a decade plus, sales top the whole fucking series to become the default lol

@ParaSeoul Different IP, different tone etc. I felt it was handled really well in The Last Of Us 2 as the world is raw, unforgiving and cruel, it has no exceptions just cause you like someone, thats real life, its not a Saturday morning cartoon show lol It allowed you to feel what Ellie felt, feel like you didn't have enough time to say goodbye etc, it was fucking brilliant as all that was able to be channeled to tell a wild story about revenge, but also about selfishness and being honest with ones self. Joel lied to Ellie to protect her, Ellie lied to Jesse and Dina to Protect Joel's honor, she knew why they came from him and knew their reason where just and that her seeking revenge was not for a person that was a good person, but a person that likely had it coming as she her self is upset and angry at him for lying prior to his death, as in she knows why they came to kill Joel and her plight is selfish one, just like Joel's was... the mirroring, parallels. It was a brilliant story told in a brutal way. Abby's plight is just as selfish dragging everyone else in too, to then mirror Tommy at the end saying "I have a lead" is just amazing story telling as he is now become Abby and Ellie has become Owen.

They can do Kratoes in and have his son seek revenge and I'd still love that shit lol If its a great story, I don't care. I don't fucking cry over pixels. they are not real, with revenge, no one is owed a peaceful death and the best a studio can do is respect the world they created, not sugar coat a death like a fucking cartoon for you feelings man.

The world comes before any one character, even the main character. How can even care about the IP if we have such self serving deaths? lol So I'm ok with how they do him in, so long as its true to the world and lore that they built and with a IP like God Of War, him dying at this point is a fucking staple of the IP, you'll just play him in the credits killing them valkryie bitches in Valhalla lol

Have a good one, conversation for another night I suppose.
Too many day 1s for you this year ?!
In a year with no games? You could've said that in 2011... 2007... maybe 2015... but now? Barren desert
I don't get this. People are happy with this shit state of the industry.

All that said - GOW Ragnarok is the bright star this year
 
Too many day 1s for you this year ?!
In a year with no games? You could've said that in 2011... 2007... maybe 2015... but now? Barren desert
I don't get this. People are happy with this shit state of the industry.

All that said - GOW Ragnarok is the bright star this year
He literally said "Day 1. Not many day 1s for me this year, but this one deserves it."

But saying "year with no games"...maybe you're playing in the wrong platform?
 

EDMIX

Member
Too many day 1s for you this year ?!
In a year with no games? You could've said that in 2011... 2007... maybe 2015... but now? Barren desert
I don't get this. People are happy with this shit state of the industry.

All that said - GOW Ragnarok is the bright star this year

Not really. Many games that came out this year I will actually buy and want to play, I simply don't' have the time, but will make the time for God Of War.

Still need to play Horizon, Elden Ring, GT7, Dying Light 2, Warhammer 3 (waiting on dat sale lol) Stray, might also check out Tunic, Little Devil Inside (if it keeps the date) etc.

Lots and lots of games came out that I plan to play, simply later on. Been a busy year, I could never say its a desert lol

God Of War is merely one of those IPs that is not only a massive title, but will be out right when the semester is ending for me to enjoy freely. Its just a timing thing I guess. Nothing against the rest of the titles either.

Tiago Rodrigues Tiago Rodrigues Thank you! Its a me thing, many amazing titles came out this year. If I had the time, I'd have like at least 10 day 1s lol, but I have school and business to take care of before I celebrate. I made the goal of 1 new game this year, I'll keep it and enjoy the rest used next year or something. They'll still be there for me.
 
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GymWolf

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The writing in the trailer felt like amateur hour.

I'm also not sold on the voice actor for Tyr.
I was expecting a way more deep, manly voice for tyr, yeah, it sounded a bit too young-ish, especially compared to kratos and thor who impregnate women with their voice in a 20 mt radius.

I need to watch the trailer again with higher volume because it was 2am in italy when i watched it the first time.
 
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Loxus

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He was loved by all the soldiers at the beginning of gow2 i think.

That line is a bit stupid because what people adore the fucking god of war? Normal people should hate him to begin with, odin is the father of all gods, of course he gets love from normal people even if literally every character we met in gow2018 hate his guts...

I think he was at least loved and respected by soldiers and men of war when he was the actual god of war doing god of war things (even if it was a brief time period)
The army and normal people are two different things. Did the army really loved him or were their following him because their just like him. Kill and murder without a cause.

Not to mention, they probably had no choice and had to join his army like how it used to happen here with WW1&2.
 

Loxus

Member
As if Odin, Thor or Baldur ever cared about the norse people. All gods on this franchise only cared about themselves.

The difference is that Kratos doesnt want to be worshiped or loved. He doesnt have the need to have his ego stroked like every other god does.

That's the reason why he wanted to hide Atreus nature. He doesnt want Artreus being an asshole due to his power (like he almost did during the first game)
We don't know who it was that was talking.

Tyr is supposed to be the God of War of the Norse Mythology, yet he was loved and even tried to help the Giants.
 

GymWolf

Member
The army and normal people are two different things. Did the army really loved him or were their following him because their just like him. Kill and murder without a cause.

Not to mention, they probably had no choice and had to join his army like how it used to happen here with WW1&2.
I think they had respect for his power and for the fact that he was a normal warrior like them before the god thing.


When you are a soldier you respect strong people, and during those ancient times, war and combat was not like in modern times, it was also a matter of pride not only because you are forced or for money, i think soldiers genuinely liked kratos leadership, even just because you know you have a badass god covering your ass.
 
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GymWolf

Member
The Last Of Us moved more units and they had no issue doing that lol

They won't end God Of War, his son merely will be the next "God Of War" and they'd just reference Kratoes or he'd speak thru him as a spirt or something. I mean, consider the IP, consider how many times he has died. Him dying is more of a given at this point and he wouldn't really even be "dead" how we know death to be. He'd be in Valhalla giving his son advice thru statues on being a God. So I say, let the story arc complete, they had a great run with Kratoes and i'd like to see the story continue with his son as the new god of war for a bit. The character just can't be bigger then the whole world, the IP can't just live and die with Kratoes, the world is so amazing, it can live on without him being the main chararacter as its called God Of War, not "Kratoes", he killed a God Of War, as in one existed before him, let it continue that way imho

I love the structure too as the metroidvana, Zelda like world format works well with this.
Ellie was WAY more beloved than little shit and kratos has way more history\games than joel.

Not the same thing in the slightest.

And even if tlou2 was successful, you can't deny the gigantic backlash from joel golf tournament adventure...
 
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Loxus

Member
I think they had respect for his power and for the fact that he was a normal warrior like them before the god thing.


When you are a soldier you respect strong people, and during those ancient times, war and combat was not like in modern times, it was also a matter of pride not only because you are forced or for money, i think soldiers genuinely liked kratos leadership, even just because you know you have a badass god covering your ass.
True, but none of them worshipped or prayed to him.
 

GymWolf

Member
True, but none of them worshipped or prayed to him.
We don't know this, i'm pretty sure that before going to battle to risk their life, they probably chanted some prayers for him, even if just silent ones in their heads.

I'm sure real life soldiers pray in their head before a battle, imagine having a specific god of war to pray that can actually help you.

Maybe not your classic prayer, but something like chanting his name out loud or shit like that, gods accept any type of prayer.
 
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EDMIX

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Ellie was WAY more beloved than little shit and kratos has way more history\games than joel.

Not the same thing in the slightest.

And even if tlou2 was successful, you can't deny the gigantic backlash from joel golf tournament adventure...

Thats nice.

Sony doesn't fucking care man lol

They allow that freedom in their teams and I don't see this as an exception. If they wanted to exploit some character for sales, they literally had a 20 plus million seller to do so, as in Kratoes has more history then Joel, because he was in more games then Joel.

Sony giveth and Sony taketh away lol I don't think you get what is being stated btw.

No one gives a shit about "backlash" from folks who cry over anything. If Sony is ok with that, they don't care about ending this IP with Kratoes as a main character, I see no evidence that they've ever forced some team to make a game or keep a character for sales or something. Shit, they wouldn't even have new IP if they really, REALLY cared about that.

If Sony cared about selling a face to a IP, after those 20 million units, no way they ok Part 2 the way it is if they really, really wanted that type of thing to move units, I just don't see that they care all that much like many are crying over lol We've had games literally in the middle of 3 titles them just change the main character, Infamous 3 they did that. So Sony is ok with new IPs, new characters in existing IPs, killing off characters.

All that doesn't sound like some publisher that will make some hard rule to only have the character live and never die, change etc. Nahhh, I see nothing to support any of that and I like both fucking IP.
 

Loxus

Member
We don't know this, i'm pretty sure that before going to battle to risk their life, they probably chanted some prayers for him, even if just silent ones in their heads.

I'm sure real life soldiers pray in their head before a battle, imagine having a specific god of war to pray that can actually help you.

Maybe not your classic prayer, but something like chanting his name out loud or shit like that, gods accept any type of prayer.
It's not same as normal people worshipping and praying to you.

Kratos Army was literally killing the people the was supposed to pray to him.
 
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GymWolf

Member
It's not same as normal people worshipping and praying to you.
Soldier are normal people dude...just because they fight doesn't mean they don't have feeling or their prayer are less powerfull.

Not sure why you think differently.

They literally had different gods to have any type of human with something to pray.
 

MikeM

Member
Kratos died and came back,Kratos actually dying and having no reason to come back or being unable to would be a good twist
Athena seems to be a higher being now. If Kratos dies, I wonder if he will become that higher being then go after Athena.
 

GymWolf

Member
Thats nice.

Sony doesn't fucking care man lol

They allow that freedom in their teams and I don't see this as an exception. If they wanted to exploit some character for sales, they literally had a 20 plus million seller to do so, as in Kratoes has more history then Joel, because he was in more games then Joel.

Sony giveth and Sony taketh away lol I don't think you get what is being stated btw.

No one gives a shit about "backlash" from folks who cry over anything. If Sony is ok with that, they don't care about ending this IP with Kratoes as a main character, I see no evidence that they've ever forced some team to make a game or keep a character for sales or something. Shit, they wouldn't even have new IP if they really, REALLY cared about that.

If Sony cared about selling a face to a IP, after those 20 million units, no way they ok Part 2 the way it is if they really, really wanted that type of thing to move units, I just don't see that they care all that much like many are crying over lol We've had games literally in the middle of 3 titles them just change the main character, Infamous 3 they did that. So Sony is ok with new IPs, new characters in existing IPs, killing off characters.

All that doesn't sound like some publisher that will make some hard rule to only have the character live and never die, change etc. Nahhh, I see nothing to support any of that and I like both fucking IP.
I don't care if sony is tone deaf and doesn't understand shit about how to handle their more beloved characters, i was just explaining why the ellie and joel situation is not similar to kratos and atreus situation.

Kratos has way more history and games than joel and little shit is not nearly as beloved as ellie was, these are undeniable facts.
 

Loxus

Member
Soldier are normal people dude...just because they fight doesn't mean they don't have feeling or their prayer are less powerfull.

Not sure why you think differently.

They literally had different gods to have any type of human with something to pray.
Well let me put it this way.
If they ever prayed or worshipped him, they did it out of fear not love.

Kratos murdered without cause.
No one is going to love that kind of God.
 

Pelta88

Member
Please don't bring that shit in here 🙄. TLOU2 raised the bar significantly in this medium.

And I guarantee you every single one of Sony's studios (ESPECIALLY Santa Monica, Insomniac) saw that game and said, "this is the new bar".

Cory Barlog said in a tweet that game changed his life quite literally. Neil and TLOU 2 are respected in the industry.

Sometimes you gotta let certain folk be. We are feasting! And some despise this level of gluttony.
 
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GymWolf

Member
It's not same as normal people worshipping and praying to you.

Kratos Army was literally killing the people the was supposed to pray to him.
Agree to disagree, soldiers and men of war are why a god of war exist, normal people have other gods to pray for and soldiers are not aliens, they are literally humans with a different job\skills.

You think normal people was praying for kratos when his soldiers were about to fuck up their city? Think again...

Even in different forms of media, the god of war is always worshipped by soldiers and not normal people because normal people DOESN'T want a war, it is such an elementary concept to me.
 
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GymWolf

Member
Well let me put it this way.
If they ever prayed or worshipped him, they did it out of fear not love.

Kratos murdered without cause.
No one is going to love that kind of God.

That's a conclusion based on nothing dude, soldiers by logic are gonna love and respect the god of war, not fearing him because it is a fucking ally not an enemy.

How can you fear something that helps you winning a battle?? You are gonna pray with joy for an entity like that, the enemies are the one that are scared, not the army that is supported by the god of war, again, simple logic.

At best we can say that not all the soldiers loved him, but many did.

P.s. we really are discussing about nothing here dude, kratos is not the god of war anymore so all this discussion is mute, i don't even think that odin word's are gonna disturb kratos at all since he never cared about being loved and worshipped.
 
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Assaulty

Member
What an amazing trailer, absolutely loved it.

that said, I've recently started "the first" GOW on pc and I have to say: I can't really get into it yet. the setpieces are amazing. Graphics are incredible and the story is enticing, but I am not feeling the structure of the game yet. I've played maybe 5-6 hours, but everything boils down to "liniair level, splits off with boat to places with chests that have non interesting loot and generic enemies". Am I missing something? Does this get better? I am struggling to find enjoyment yet can clearly see the quality of the title.

Genuine question, not trying to hate.
 

Loxus

Member
That's a conclusion based on nothing dude, soldiers by logic are gonna love and respect the god of war, not fearing him because it is a fucking ally not an enemy.

How can you fear something that helps you winning a battle?? You are gonna pray with joy for an entity like that, the enemies are the one that are scared, not the army that is supported by the god of war, again, simple logic.

At best we can say that not all the soldiers loved him, but many did.
Forget it, cause clearly you didn't played God of War. That Army treated him like a General not a God.
 

EDMIX

Member
these are undeniable facts.

no Gym, merely your opinion....

i was just explaining why the ellie and joel situation is not similar to kratos and atreus situation.

lol I don't see any exception to Sony's creative freedom they allow to their teams in regards to deaths man. I get you like it and shit, that doesn't mean he won't be killed off or something. God Of War's foreshadowing to this is even more straight forwards then The Last Of Us part 1, they literally have the kid READ that he will kill Kratoes lol The most hardcore fanboys went on screaming that Joel wasn't going to eat it and ignored all the foreshadowing in the first game, his comments that you can't run from your past, Bills comments about Ellie getting him killed, being unable to stop the scene with the doctor (ohhhh wow I wonder why that MUST play out like that /s) even how Marlene dies, he literally states she'll just come after them, as in he is waiting for someone to come and kill him , might be one of the fucking easiest tells a character would die and the same fucking argument you are making, was made prior to Part 2, now those same users are just crying over it vs "day beloved doe" argument lol It went from it won't happen, da sales, da LOVE to "how could Sony allow this" lol

Sir...Sony will allow it.

I'd move that goal post now to save you some time lol I'm sure you love Kratoes with all your love bud, I see no evidence that suddenly he won't eat it cause that or something. The factor here is not the 2 games, its who publishes it and how much freedom they allow those teams to control those characters fates.

Loxus Loxus Agreed, that is probably why the comment is made about no one worshiping him or praying to him etc. Its likely just saying he killed that in which he could never become, that killing a god didn't mean you'd be loved like one. It will probably tie into him not wanting his son to go down such a road of revenge of killing gods with this belief you can be viewed like how they are viewed.

Be like "be a compassionate person, a god is remembered for his love and how he helped, not merely who he killed" and or "I never wanted this for you" lol

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GymWolf

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Forget it, cause clearly you didn't played God of War. That Army treated him like a General not a God.
Or we can agree that it is your opinion and since you are not inside the head of the soldiers you have no idea how they see kratos.

I still think that a soldier is gonna respect and worship the strenght of a dude that was previous a soldier like them and just became a god because he was so good at fighting, especially a god that helps you winning battles.
 
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GymWolf

Member
no Gym, merely your opinion....



lol I don't see any exception to Sony's creative freedom they allow to their teams in regards to deaths man. I get you like it and shit, that doesn't mean he won't be killed off or something. God Of War's foreshadowing to this is even more straight forwards then The Last Of Us part 1, they literally have the kid READ that he will kill Kratoes lol The most hardcore fanboys went on screaming that Joel wasn't going to eat it and ignored all the foreshadowing in the first game, his comments that you can't run from your past, Bills comments about Ellie getting him killed, being unable to stop the scene with the doctor (ohhhh wow I wonder why that MUST play out like that /s) even how Marlene dies, he literally states she'll just come after them, as in he is waiting for someone to come and kill him , might be one of the fucking easiest tells a character would die and the same fucking argument you are making, was made prior to Part 2, now those same users are just crying over it vs "day beloved doe" argument lol It went from it won't happen, da sales, da LOVE to "how could Sony allow this" lol

Sir...Sony will allow it.

I'd move that goal post now to save you some time lol I'm sure you love Kratoes with all your love bud, I see no evidence that suddenly he won't eat it cause that or something. The factor here is not the 2 games, its who publishes it and how much freedom they allow those teams to control those characters fates.
It is an opinion that ellie was way more beloved than atreus or that kratos has more history and games than joel??

Lmao ok dude.

I don't even like kratos that much, but sure as hell he is more beloved and charismatic than a fucking brat.
 
What an amazing trailer, absolutely loved it.

that said, I've recently started "the first" GOW on pc and I have to say: I can't really get into it yet. the setpieces are amazing. Graphics are incredible and the story is enticing, but I am not feeling the structure of the game yet. I've played maybe 5-6 hours, but everything boils down to "liniair level, splits off with boat to places with chests that have non interesting loot and generic enemies". Am I missing something? Does this get better? I am struggling to find enjoyment yet can clearly see the quality of the title.

Genuine question, not trying to hate.

It's a Sony game.

You need to approach it differently.

Get hyped by music, beeline to main quest for first 10 hrs. After that if you feel like it, branch out to side quests to get some more playtime out of it.

Don't get too critical of level design or mechanics cause you will be visiting a lot of locations and lots of new mechanics will be introduced for mundane tasks. So don't expect perfection.
 

Fredrik

Member
"one successful game" when the 2nd one is still outselling the 1st entry launch aligned. Okay...lmao
Lmao doing big changes after one game, no matter how big the game is, isn’t the same thing as doing it with a game serie. I just don’t see them doing it here. And who would take over after Kratos? It’s not happening. 100% sure about this.
 
What an amazing trailer, absolutely loved it.

that said, I've recently started "the first" GOW on pc and I have to say: I can't really get into it yet. the setpieces are amazing. Graphics are incredible and the story is enticing, but I am not feeling the structure of the game yet. I've played maybe 5-6 hours, but everything boils down to "liniair level, splits off with boat to places with chests that have non interesting loot and generic enemies". Am I missing something? Does this get better? I am struggling to find enjoyment yet can clearly see the quality of the title.

Genuine question, not trying to hate.
You need to approach it as if you were playing an action movie. Then you're guaranteed to have a good time.
 
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Lmao doing big changes after one game, no matter how big the game is, isn’t the same thing as doing it with a game serie. I just don’t see them doing it here. And who would take over after Kratos? It’s not happening. 100% sure about this.
But they already did the big changes with the 2018 reboot. That's literally why it was a reboot in the first place. And that was after 4 main games and 2 portable ones.
 

EDMIX

Member
It is an opinion that ellie was way more beloved than atreus or that kratos has more history and games than joel??

Lmao ok dude.

I don't even like kratos that much, but sure as hell he is more beloved and charismatic than a fucking brat.
ok....all of that is an opinion. That isn't a factual statement. Like, beloved, love etc, all of that is subjective.

You telling me you didn't know that? You thought your opinion was fact or something? lol


Relax Gym.
 

GymWolf

Member
ok....all of that is an opinion. That isn't a factual statement. Like, beloved, love etc, all of that is subjective.

You telling me you didn't know that? You thought your opinion was fact or something? lol


Relax Gym.
I'm super relaxed but if we have to use scifi narratives to prove a point then i'm out because it is a waste of time.

There is no alternative universe where joel has more games and history that kratos or little shit is as beloeved as was ellie after the first game.
 
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EDMIX

Member
I'm super relaxed but if we have to use scifi narratives to prove a point then i'm out because it is a waste of time.

There is no alternative universe where joel has more games and history that kratos or little shit is as beloeved as was ellie after the first game.

ok...but sir "as beloved" is a subjective opinion.

You have to get over that man lol

Sony might not give a fuck about any of that as history has shown already, they side with the artist and allow the game to be what they wrote and the fate of what they want them to be. I see nothing to argue Sony is keeping any character alive for sales or something. So I'd start that goal post now man lol

The fact that Joel doesn't have the same number of games and it moved 20 plus million units, yet they still went thru with part 2 directly shows Sony has no interest in pimping out and milking a fucking character into the ground. If they wanted to do that, The Last Of Us moving the most units in PlayStation history and the most awards in PS history was the one to do it with.

That point doesn't help you, it directly shows that isn't an interest to them to keep any character alive to milk. If they had some fucking PS agenda to keep a character alive for 12 games to make them "beloved" ,clearly they would have continued the series with no changes. They care, but don't care too? lol

You need to get over that shit man lol
 
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Finally a meaty trailer. I like most of what was shown. Just hope Atreus isn't going to get all angsty and whiny the whole game.

The short fight scene with Thor is exactly what the trailer needed to finish with a bang. But I hope we actually get to meet and confront Odin, and hopefully visit the places where these Nordic Gods live. Would be a nice change from the usual beautiful but barren locales. I want to visit an actual city with people in it, though I doubt this will be in the game.

Hope that the giant bird in Helheim finally becomes a boss in this sequel.
 

SLB1904

Banned
Man people should just stop with tlous in every thread. Yes Joel death sucked but getting scared that every studio will kill their protagonist because naughty dog did is insane. And if people were paying attention Ellie is the main character not joel
 

Fredrik

Member
But they already did the big changes with the 2018 reboot. That's literally why it was a reboot in the first place. And that was after 4 main games and 2 portable ones.
Are we even talking about the same thing here? I’m talking about wiping out Kratos, not changing the game mechanics. Kratos is still around and I think he’ll be around as long as God of War is the name of the IP.
 

EDMIX

Member
Finally a meaty trailer. I like most of what was shown. Just hope Atreus isn't going to get all angsty and whiny the whole game.

The short fight scene with Thor is exactly what the trailer needed to finish with a bang. But I hope we actually get to meet and confront Odin, and hopefully visit the places where these Nordic Gods live. Would be a nice change from the usual beautiful but barren locales. I want to visit an actual city with people in it, though I doubt this will be in the game.

Hope that the giant bird in Helheim finally becomes a boss in this sequel.

Facts, but I'm putting a media blackout on this one. I feel I got some of those comments in the trailer and I have an idea of what the plot is and want to ignore all the media on it going forward lol Will be a celebrated day 1
Man people should just stop with tlous in every thread. Yes Joel death sucked but getting scared that every studio will kill their protagonist because naughty dog did is insane. And if people were paying attention Ellie is the main character not joel

lol I think if they do, it was already set in stone. Several things in God Of War 2018 show its part of some storyline, maybe it plays out, maybe not. If it does, it wouldn't be shocking as this man dies in every damn game lol

He is going to enter Valhalla and they'll have a whole V.I.P section for him and brochures talking about the difference between Hell, Hades and Valhalla, be like "here at Valhalla, no GMOs are found in our food compared to the nasty sulfur in Hades" lol This man has a fucking Disney pass to the underworld at this point.

Fredrik Fredrik nahhh I don't know about all that. Even the title God Of War was given to him from someone he killed......hint, hint lol Thats like saying we won't have a Splinter Cell that isn't Sam Fisher (ignores the agents are interchangeable and if he dies, another one takes his place)

Sony has not really had much issue getting new characters in existing IP.

The Getaway had a main character change in part 2
Infamous in part 3
.....The Last Of Us part 2 lol
Don't act shocked when they have Ghost Of Hokkaido 400 years in the future, Fred be like "ok, now where jin at?" lol

its not an unusual thing for Sony to allow this level of freedom and they said it themselves in the reboot, nothing is safe, nothing is sacred to them. For all we know, this arc is done for him and his moves will be with his son or something and Atreus will be the God Of War talking to statues and regretting their past. Who knows.
 
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GHG

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I could jump in day 1, but then why am I subbing to PS+ Premium? Just to play third party games? or to play games I never would’ve bought anyway? Makes the service lose it’s appeal for me.
Why can’t they put all 1st party releases into the Premium sub?

The solution is simple. Stop subscribing and use that money to buy the games you want.

I don't understand what you're moaning about, nobody is forcing you to subscribe to all this crap, especially if you're not getting what you want out of it. Buy what you want and enjoy your hobby ffs.
 
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GymWolf

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ok...but sir "as beloved" is a subjective opinion.

You have to get over that man lol

Sony might not give a fuck about any of that as history has shown already, they side with the artist and allow the game to be what they wrote and the fate of what they want them to be. I see nothing to argue Sony is keeping any character alive for sales or something. So I'd start that goal post now man lol

The fact that Joel doesn't have the same number of games and it moved 20 plus million units, yet they still went thru with part 2 directly shows Sony has no interest in pimping out and milking a fucking character into the ground. If they wanted to do that, The Last Of Us moving the most units in PlayStation history and the most awards in PS history was the one to do it with.

That point doesn't help you, it directly shows that isn't an interest to them to keep any character alive to milk. If they had some fucking PS agenda to keep a character alive for 12 games to make them "beloved" ,clearly they would have continued the series with no changes. They care, but don't care too? lol

You need to get over that shit man lol
I need to get over what shit? i already said that i don't care about sony thought process or how they are gonna waste their best characters, i'm ready for the worst man.

And no, being beloved in not a subjective opinion, ellie was one of the most beloved videogame character in the past 10 years, no doubt about it.

But little shit? you enter any gow related topic and half the people were annoyed by him or just tolerated him, the jump in logic to think that he is as beloved as ellie is gigantic dude, sure the loki reveal was cool and there are some endearing moments but yeah...

Do you know what is a narrative that i can get behind? Joel being as loved or even more loved than kratos after only 1 game, but ellie vs atreus is a silly comparison no matter how you spin it.

Millions of people think the earth is flat, still an opinion, but a shitty one.
 
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Based on his post history the guy needs to find a new hobby. That and maybe get laid.

Hard to get laid when you've got a hate boner for a game.

Fine to say the story looks bland or the trailer was not that great but to say there's 0 gameplay...bruh :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Fredrik

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The solution is simple. Stop subscribing and use that money to buy the games you want.

I don't understand what you're moaning about, nobody is forcing to to subscribe to all this crap, especially if you're not getting what you want out of it. Buy what you want and enjoy your hobby ffs.
The service is awesome, and I’ve prepaid so can’t cancel it. But with every delayed game-catalogue release I can’t handle waiting for it’ll lower the value of the service, feels like buying Disney movies day 1 when you have Disney+ just because waiting sucks.
If you’re a LTTP gamer it’s still awesome though, I was there when I started the sub, been feasting and catching up on 2020 and 2021 releases.
 
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