Bernd Lauert
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Haven't tried it yet, but looks good on video. One of my favorite games on PS2.
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Unofficial Jak and Daxter native PC port just dropped
- Thread starter Bernd Lauert
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Haven't tried it yet, but looks good on video. One of my favorite games on PS2.
Elder Legend
Banned
Get over this form of vitriol that does not but derail threads around identity politics exhaustion.
Too bad Niel Cuckmann is too busy sucking SJW dick for more TLOU milking. Instead of remaking games that actually deserve it.
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This is more of a Mario 64/ocarina of time PC port situation. Not an official release.
Rykan
Member
Jak and Daxter is what Banjo Kazooie would be if Banjo kazooie was good.
Midn1ght
Member
Kokoloko85
Member
I think Sony own the IP and get another team to remake the trilogy or make a new one. Same as Sly Cooper
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I was thinking that this was an official PC release. So you made a thread about a game being not emulated, but still being emulated since it requires a ROM.
This game has been playable for YEARS on PS2 emulation.
Thanks for nothing.
This game has been playable for YEARS on PS2 emulation.
Thanks for nothing.
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graywolf323
Member
I was thinking that this was an official PC release. So you made a thread about a game being not emulated, but still being emulated since it requires a ROM.
Thanks for nothing.
yeah I came in here thinking wow what a random stealth drop from Sony, should have known based on who the OP was that it wouldn’t have been that simple
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A Most Virtuous Cat
Banned
Disagree with the word choice but 100% agree with the statement and sentiment.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
No shit. This has been playable for ages on PS2 emulation.
Deft Beck
Member
To play devil's advocate, Sony probably doesn't see the value in remaking the series when the remaster sales didn't prove interest in the series.
TLOU, even if it's not to my taste, is a franchise more scalable to the current market. There are other companies that make games like this which you can play right now on Steam and elsewhere.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Semantics. This is definitely an achievement, since this team essentially reverse-engineered the game's compiler. There's no emulation layer at work here (no PS2 code, or more specifically no code trying to convert the PS2 game to be playable on a modern PC). The ROM is required because they can't legally distribute that.
But you're absolutely correct, this is essentially a nothingburger for anyone that's interested in playing this game on their computer, because that's been possible for a long time now.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
J&D1 was the poor man’s Banjo.
Topher
Gold Member
It's not a nothing burger at all. Mario 64 PC runs circles over the emulated version.
Hugare
Member
Yeah, put one of the most talented team of devs in the industry to remake fucking Jak and Daxter
That's like asking Rockstar to drop GTA VI to remake Table Tennis
Jak and Daxter wouldnt sell 1/5 of the copies that TLOU/Uncharted or a new cinematic IP from them would sell
Glad that you aren the one making decisions at Sony
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Tbh fuck Sony. They should take the bull by the horns and port their ñegacy games. They are not exactly a mom and pop store with no bandwidth to do it.
But modern California based Playstation does not care much about it's pre ps4 legacy.
II_JumPeR_I
Member
How was that done?
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Good point, I guess I just meant it's a nothing burger if you don't mind playing it exactly like the PS2 game played back in the day. With a native port it opens up the possibility for things like ultrawide resolution, texture remapping (though this is also possible in the newest emulators), etc.
This is an even safer bet than what you're thinking. They've only released a decompiler / compiler that can convert the existing PS2 ISO into a native Windows (or Linux) version of the game. So, they're not distributing anything copyrighted. Enterprising individuals can use this to make their own native port of the game and run it themselves.
Inevitably someone will release a pre-compiled native version using this code / method, but the authors won't be liable for that.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
He can keep on sucking that SJW dick then, because Jak and Daxter sucked.
begotten
Member
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
If this was happening with PS3 games, then I'd be excited since those games, despite SIGNIFICANT achievements, are still difficult to emulate.
The problem is they have HD ports of Jak 1-3, X, Ratchet and Clank 1-3, Deadlocked, and Sly Cooper 1-3.
All of them were released for the PS3, then they turned around and released Jak 1-3,X as PS2 emulated versions on the PS4.
But I am enjoying all of these engine ports for older games. PC has had it for some popular games for decades.
All of them were released for the PS3, then they turned around and released Jak 1-3,X as PS2 emulated versions on the PS4.
But I am enjoying all of these engine ports for older games. PC has had it for some popular games for decades.
wvnative
Member
Bro, this isn't relevant here.
Senua
Member
First one most certainly did not
MaxwellParrish
Member
Sorry it the questiom sound stupid, but are there any advantage for the final user to this kind of release instead of the use of an emulator? Like, is the original code lighter and you can push higher resolutions or something like that?
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Naughty Dog going from Jak and Daxter to The Last of Us II is a metaphor to all of us growing old and bitter.
Generally it should be easier to run as it's directly running the game rather than emulating a system to then run the original game.
This also allow things like native wide screen support without hacking the original code. You can run the game at higher refresh rates which was huge of OoT as that game ran 15-20fps on original hardware.
The engine can also be easily ported to any system you can dream of. Remember Doom running on a pregnancy test? Or Mario 3D running on the Vita and 3DS?
Asset mods are also much easier to do as well or other mods to the game.
Wouldn't sell as much. But I'd be better then the stuff Sony puts out these days.
00_Zer0
Member
If this is a native port this will still be better than the emulation in the long run because it can be modded to allow any resolution any framerate, HD texture mods, game mods etc. Plus a lot less input lag compared to ps2 emulation.
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I'm going with the assumption that the nay sayers are just salty PS5 owners stuck playing the PS2 emulation version of the game.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I decided to give this a try for myself, since I'm a huge fan of the first Jak and Daxter game. I was curious to see what all they had baked into their compiler.
Holy cow, this is pretty good stuff.
Took a bit of fiddling, but was able to get the game running in a 21:9 aspect ratio using the settings. You can also choose fullscreen / borderless / or windowed mode.
After I set my aspect ratio, I was able to choose my preferred resolution (3360x1440). Obviously - this sort of thing isn't even remotely possible on the PS2 / emulated version of the game.
Sadly, the pre-rendered cutscenes are still in 16:9 (better than 4:3 though, which is what I was expecting!)
Once the actual gameplay started though, it was all good
The game runs amazingly well, clocked over 100fps on my 3060.
So, obviously, this is pretty cool and a much better experience than I was expecting.
ParaSeoul
Member
Unrelated but I'm glad warnings show on posts now. Makes it clearer whats too far.
Banjo64
cumsessed
I think that’s always been a thing on select posts.
As to the thread, this game is one of the best platformers. The sequels aren’t worth much but this is one banging game. One of ND’s top 3 for sure.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
My dude, the first word in the thread title is "unofficial".
Md Ray
Member
FTFY.
Holammer
Member
Gave it a go. J&D's art assets don't hold up, models look like origami with low res textures. Injected CRT filter and now it looks as it was meant to be played.
Hopefully people start modding the everliving fuck out of this game, maybe fix the archaic camera or reimagine characters with higher poly counts.
Hopefully people start modding the everliving fuck out of this game, maybe fix the archaic camera or reimagine characters with higher poly counts.
Hugare
Member
Since it wouldnt sell as much, your opinion on what is good is obviously not a popular one then
That's like saying Spielberg became a bitter director after Shindler's List, not knowing what movies he would direct after it
You guys are exagerating waay too much about TLOU 2 and ND
ParaSeoul
Member
Game was impressive back in the day with the seamless world with no loading. The later games have higher poly counts
TexMex
Member
Absolutely cringing at the thought of unironically typing this and hitting post.
daninthemix
Member
Do we know if Naughty Dog staff are involved? Or former staff? The way the Github is written leads me to believe they are.