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[Fox Mulder]

I had fun.

The Illuminati stuff was cool. The John Krasinski reveal got a pop and professor X rolling up with classic X-men cartoon music.

Was fun to see scarlet witch just obliterate powerful characters and brutally kill people.

 

[BlvckFox]

Definitely a fun ride. It’s very much a Sam Raimi movie. At times it gets shockingly brutal and occasionally you can even feel the light influence of Evil Dead. It’s a Dr.Strange movie but it’s really a Scarlett Witch movie. I wish the madness dragged in old and new characters, really get nuts with the plot.

Otherwise, Good film. Would watch again.
PS: Watch all of Marvel’s What if before..it contains a shit ton from the show.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

I give it a solid 8/10.

Would have scored higher, but I did 100% expect some House of M where Wanda is revealed to really be a mutant and I didn't get that. My expectation got the better of me, I guess. I will watch it again in 3D.

 

[purvispisgah]

This was one of the worst big budget movies I've ever seen. The only person that seemed interested in actual compelling acting was Elizabeth Olsen.

Was actually reminded of Spiderman 3 and had no idea this was directed by Sam Raimi until the end credits.

Music was a high point.

 

[Rentahamster]

This movie was cool. I went back and watched the trailers and holy shit they were spoilery as fuck.

 

[pauljeremiah]

Very disappointed with it, a terrible first hour that made me care not one iota for the second hour. For lack of a better phrase it felt like a theme park ride at times. Marvel fatigue is starting to kick in.

 

[fran.fernandez]

All those evil dead vibes…. From the start you can see Sam raimi at his glory.

Perfect

11/10

 

[Ulysses 31]

All those evil dead vibes…. From the start you can see Sam raimi at his glory.

Perfect

11/10

The reshoots lead me to believe they had to reign Raimi in rather than let him take charge.

There's a saying from MCU critics that at Marvel they don't hire directors, they cast them.

 

[freernnur5]

Enjoyed it, but not a Marvel film I plan on re-watching.

I think this movie was the most impacted by the covid delays since this felt like a WandaVision finishing movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie. I think if I went in with the expectations of this being a WandaVision movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie I'd have enjoyed it more.

The thing I don't understand now is this movie was supposed to come out prior to No Way Home, so why did Dr. Strange in No Way Home bother to perform that spell for Peter? Just seems odd given he knows the multiverse from this movie and the potential risks of incursions yet he does the spell for Peter with like no second thought.

 

[ManaByte]

I think this movie was the most impacted by the covid delays since this felt like a WandaVision finishing movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie. I think if I went in with the expectations of this being a WandaVision movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie I'd have enjoyed it more.

Feige said at SDCC 2019 that WandaVision would directly lead into this movie. That's before COVID.

 

[freernnur5]

Feige said at SDCC 2019 that WandaVision would directly lead into this movie. That's before COVID.

Yea I had forgotten that and I knew WV was tied to this, but for some reason I guess I just got sucked into the trailers that it was something else? Dunno, that's probably on me.

 

[Ulysses 31]

The thing I don't understand now is this movie was supposed to come out prior to No Way Home, so why did Dr. Strange in No Way Home bother to perform that spell for Peter? Just seems odd given he knows the multiverse from this movie and the potential risks of incursions yet he does the spell for Peter with like no second thought.

MCU has a history of destroying characters when you compare them from earlier phases to phase 4. Dr. Strange is just one in a long list of character assassinated heroes.

That scene you're describing also destroys Wong's character with the line he has when he's supposed to be the sorcerer supreme who cares about protecting the world.

 

[BJK]

Enjoyed it, but not a Marvel film I plan on re-watching.

I think this movie was the most impacted by the covid delays since this felt like a WandaVision finishing movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie. I think if I went in with the expectations of this being a WandaVision movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie I'd have enjoyed it more.

The thing I don't understand now is this movie was supposed to come out prior to No Way Home, so why did Dr. Strange in No Way Home bother to perform that spell for Peter? Just seems odd given he knows the multiverse from this movie and the potential risks of incursions yet he does the spell for Peter with like no second thought.

It didn’t come out before NWH, though. The story clearly references NWH happening first, so MCU Stephen didn’t know about Incursions at the time he cast the spell. Had they actually come out in reverse order, the films would have been written / edited to address your issue.

 

[Pagusas]

Just got back….absolutely hated it. I think it’s my hated MCU movie now… wow.

I expected so much from Sam Rami, and what we got in this was ugly, cheap, felt rushed, inauthentic, and did I say cheap?? really really fucking cheap. The effects, the editing, especially the character, clothing, and even some of the sets, all felt so damn cheap, like suddenly we were back in early 00’s super hero movie cheap. I just can’t get over it. how did this movie end up like this.

 

[ArtHands]

MCU has a history of destroying characters when you compare them from earlier phases to phase 4. Dr. Strange is just one in a long list of character assassinated heroes.

That scene you're describing also destroys Wong's character with the line he has when he's supposed to be the sorcerer supreme who cares about protecting the world.

It didn’t end up happening, so no destroying there. This movie is still set after NWH

 

[Dr. Claus]

Enjoyed it, but not a Marvel film I plan on re-watching.

I think this movie was the most impacted by the covid delays since this felt like a WandaVision finishing movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie. I think if I went in with the expectations of this being a WandaVision movie vs. a Dr. Strange movie I'd have enjoyed it more.

The thing I don't understand now is this movie was supposed to come out prior to No Way Home, so why did Dr. Strange in No Way Home bother to perform that spell for Peter? Just seems odd given he knows the multiverse from this movie and the potential risks of incursions yet he does the spell for Peter with like no second thought.

The movie is set after NWH. Even when it was planned to release prior to NWH, it is to be set *after* it. No different than other movies in the MCU, such as Black Widow or Ant-Man and the Wasp.

MCU has a history of destroying characters when you compare them from earlier phases to phase 4. Dr. Strange is just one in a long list of character assassinated heroes.

That scene you're describing also destroys Wong's character with the line he has when he's supposed to be the sorcerer supreme who cares about protecting the world.

Dr. Strange and Wong act in character throughout this film. Nothing they do is *out* of character. Wong continues to put the world first, but he also isn't willing to sacrifice innocent lives if there is a chance to protect them. Same with Strange.


Anyways, back on topic:

The film was great. I have a feeling a number of folks will outright dismiss it and hate it simply for the fact that America Chavez has

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two mothers

, but I hope I am wrong about that.

The movie is a Raimi film through and through. From the

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light hearted banter between Chavez, Strange, and others, to the brutal and violent deaths that are seen quite often. Exploding heads, ripped to literal shreds, neck snapping, literal zombies!

. This is easily the best MCU film in a long while and it makes me less frustrated/disappointed with the direction WandaVision took as it was a clear set up for her role in this film. Still, its a Dr. Strange movie first and foremost and he has the lion's share of attention, as he should. There is clear character growth for him and his relationship with Wong and others. When he was first introduced, he felt almost like just another Iron Man to me, but now? I think he may be one of my favorite characters.

I will say, I was disappointed that

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there was no confirmation of mutants in the original universe or teasing of Kang the Conquerer. Even in the very last end credits scene of him mentioning rifts in the multiverse. Is there any confirmation on *when* we will see him first appear? I thought I remember someone saying it was supposed to be this film. Also not sure what is going on with Strange's third eye, what it means, or who the random girl who popped out of the Dark Dimension was. My guess future love interest for Strange given he has finally moved on from his old flame?

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Personally I think a lot of folks here went in wanting to dislike the film, either because of the director or because it is now the "cool" thing to hate on Marvel/Disney (not that they don't often deserve it, but good lord some take it way to far).

 

[Dr. Claus]

Just came out of the cinema. A PG13, this is not. Children will have real nightmares as Raimi’s gonna Raimi. A lot of creepy scenes, especially with Terminator Scarlet Witch following through the sewers or the dead fighting. The scene with Wanda moving through the mirrors was also pretty creepy.

Other than that, a solid movie. I don’t even think that Wandavisions redemption arc was screwed over as the Darkhold is known for corrupting it’s owners.

Biggest stinker was the way they solved the threat in the end. “There is still good in you.” “Ok.” Movie done.

The Bruce Campbell hand reference had me laughing, though. As the only person in the cinema …

Nah, this is *real* PG13. This is the 80s PG13. Where kids actually need parental guidance. Not this pansy shit we have today with most other films.

 

[Pagusas]

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Personally I think a lot of folks here went in wanting to dislike the film, either because of the director or because it is now the "cool" thing to hate on Marvel/Disney (not that they don't often deserve it, but good lord some take it way to far).

I think it’s the opposite, I think a lot of us went in to this film wanting to love it, after no way home and some decent MCU shows like loki, this was our first big push into the multiverse. And a world class director like Rami? This had “potential best MCU film” written all over it.

But I hated it. Not because of America (loved the actress, would have enjoyed more of her). I hated it becuase it felt small and cheap when I thought we’d get grand and spectacular.

another poster pointed it out, the whole multiverse to explore and we get like 3 set pieces and a quick (though beautiful) 20 second multiverse fly through.

The illuminati area looked soooooo cheap, like a made for TV 90’s set. and what the heck was up with the cheap costumes?


also not even a mention of Loki/he who remains or anything???? whhhhhyyyy

 

[Wheeljack539]

Was I the only one that was surprisingly wowed/pleased by the "music" fight?

 

[Forsythia]

I really liked it! Lots of scenes reminded my of Evil Dead. And of course the after credits scene was fun, although it was clear no one in the audience got the joke. I feel old.

Midcredits scene, it that a character from Eternals? Haven't watched that yet.

 

[Rentahamster]

Was I the only one that was surprisingly wowed/pleased by the "music" fight?

I liked it.

 

[GreatnessRD]

I overall liked the movie, gave it a 7.5/10. Scarlett Bitch didn't have to do my mans Professor X like that though. She was super broken in this movie, lol. I know she is in the comics as well, but she was literally mowing scorched earth in this one. In a straight "Bitch better have my money" mode.

 

[NahaNago]

I though the movie was kinda meh. The visuals and the fights were interesting at times. The music fight was honestly a bit too much. Wanda was broken when it comes to strength. Like that Illuminati fight makes no sense. Like just how she sealed that guys mouth she could have just as easily sealed all of their bodies together. She melted reed and then explodes his head. So why did she struggle so long with that captain Britain. Why did she walk on the glass after that fight when she could have just floated above it. That memory thing is such a throwaway scene. Was probably originally made to be able to easily cut the lesbian scene out for China most likely. The Illuminati was also kind of a joke. I also kinda figured that they wouldn't actually have strange kill wanda. The use of the multiverse Wanda was disappointing. I was expecting some type of mental empathy battle for control of the body. The visual effects of Wong getting blasted through that portal at the beginning looked terrible.

After thinking about it more I remember reading a comment about it being several movies in one and I think that this should have been a trilogy instead of just a one movie. You have the main unstoppable bad guy from the beginning being what you face the first time , the second movie being the reveal of who the bad guy actually is, and then the finale.

Also the multiverse movies we've had lately have kinda made this movie look basic. Like the spiderman multiverse was so good cause of all of the multiverse character nostalgia but this dr. strange version was just not as interesting. The whole multiverse jump they did with them going through so many universes was nice but the Everything Everywhere all at Once movie just did the same thing and felt even more crazier or mad with all of the variations. I mean hot dog fingers and rocks.

I can understand why folks would love this movie. It has tons of action, horror, and interesting visual effects but it just seemed like it was off in it's story telling when it comes to Wanda.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Dr. Strange and Wong act in character throughout this film. Nothing they do is *out* of character. Wong continues to put the world first, but he also isn't willing to sacrifice innocent lives if there is a chance to protect them. Same with Strange.

Is it really in character that Dr. Strange starts casting an universe altering spell before telling Peter about it? Wouldn't he explain the ramifications to Peter first or even ponder the ethics of it for a moment? After all, he's the wizard and Peter's not. Also including himself in the memory wipe is grounds to make sure it's the right spell being cast before casting it.

Wong being the sorcerer supreme he's tasked with protecting the realm from dangers and threats, otherworldly or not. Him letting Strange cast an universe altering spell like that and saying to leave him out of it is pretty dumb.

 

[bitbydeath]

So was that recent 4chan leak right? Wanda goes full on proper villain, kills lots of folks then commits suicide by bringing down Wundagore castle?

Nope.

 

[The Skull]

story telling when it comes to Wanda.

That's what bothered me. I thought in Wandavision, although it's been so long since I've watched it and it wasn't great for me, she let everyone go after realising she was wrong? I know she's messing around with the dark book at the end but for her to go on a full on I'm gonna kill everyone unless I get some kids was kind of a stretch.

I would have liked to see her have more of an inner struggle with her actions and not just act like a T-1000. She is literally trying to kill a child who is looking for her parents and there's no, as far as I can remember, exploration of that emotional symmetry between her and Chavez. No, what would vision think of me etc.

I guess you can say she went through that in the series to an extent but I just felt disappointed by the movie. Definitely had some good elements but poor execution for a lot of it.

 

[bitbydeath]

I enjoyed it, best MCU movie since Infinity War, I know that’s not saying much but still a massive step up.

 

[Star-Lord]

I just got back from seeing it, and...I'm in two minds. It's certainly not the best Strange film - that title goes to No Way Home - but it's not a bad film either. A lot of it didn't make sense. There was a lot of explaining when a lot of explanation wasn't necessary. The scenes with the Illuminati were cool, but too short for my liking. I lost my shit when Xavier was introduced, despite knowing he was in this and was going to die. It was cool to hear the original X-Men 90's cartoon theme play as he entered. I absolutely love America Chavez, and can't wait to see more of her. Zombie Strange was cool to see, Evil Strange at the end not so much. Overall, a decent film, but plenty could've been improved.

7/10

 

[Vyse]

I really enjoyed it. Also a big fan of Sam Raimi. Movie didn’t play out like I thought it would. Glad I binged What If just before going since it seems to pull quite a bit from those shows. Post credit scene with Bruce was totally worth waiting around!

Was very surprised by the level of violence.

 

[BaneIsPain]

The second best film in current phase but still a disappointment for me. Some part of me thinks the cgi could be polished more and america chavez is just bland. Hope none of disney exec are thinking make a spin off out of her.

 

[ManaByte]

Hope none of disney exec are thinking make a spin off out of her.

Solo movie.

 

[Ionian]

I had fun.

The Illuminati stuff was cool. The John Krasinski reveal got a pop and professor X rolling up with classic X-men cartoon music.

Was fun to see scarlet witch just obliterate powerful characters and brutally kill people.===

dude hype levels are maxx.

 

[Dr. Claus]

I think it’s the opposite, I think a lot of us went in to this film wanting to love it, after no way home and some decent MCU shows like loki, this was our first big push into the multiverse. And a world class director like Rami? This had “potential best MCU film” written all over it.

But I hated it. Not because of America (loved the actress, would have enjoyed more of her). I hated it becuase it felt small and cheap when I thought we’d get grand and spectacular.

another poster pointed it out, the whole multiverse to explore and we get like 3 set pieces and a quick (though beautiful) 20 second multiverse fly through.

The illuminati area looked soooooo cheap, like a made for TV 90’s set. and what the heck was up with the cheap costumes?

The Illuminati world felt like a cartoony, childlike view of what a "utopia" would look like, even with the silly costumes and *literally* bringing 90s XMen cartoon version of Xavier out. It pairs well with the over the top violence that we see when Wanda shows up. Also we get multiple beautiful looks of numerous Multiverses. From the aforementioned "Utopia", to the inversion, the main MCU earth, and more. Also I would *highly* suggest you actually go back to made for tv 90s shows. This looks *miles* above it.

also not even a mention of Loki/he who remains or anything???? whhhhhyyyy

Honestly that is my only real gripe with the film. I was certain we would at least see Kang in the aftercredits scene.

That's what bothered me. I thought in Wandavision, although it's been so long since I've watched it and it wasn't great for me, she let everyone go after realising she was wrong? I know she's messing around with the dark book at the end but for her to go on a full on I'm gonna kill everyone unless I get some kids was kind of a stretch.

She realized there was a way to guarantee that she could minimize causalities and get what she wants, permanently. She never "realized she was wrong" in the show. That is why we literally get a scene of her at the very end with the Darkhold.

Is it really in character that Dr. Strange starts casting an universe altering spell before telling Peter about it? Wouldn't he explain the ramifications to Peter first or even ponder the ethics of it for a moment? After all, he's the wizard and Peter's not. Also including himself in the memory wipe is grounds to make sure it's the right spell being cast before casting it.

Wong being the sorcerer supreme he's tasked with protecting the realm from dangers and threats, otherworldly or not. Him letting Strange cast an universe altering spell like that and saying to leave him out of it is pretty dumb.

Given that Dr. Strange things he knows everything and can control anything? Yes, it is absolutely in line with his character. That was one of the major themes of this film was showing that he needs to accept that he isn't some omnipotent demigod, but that he needs help and needs to accept that others may know more, may know better than he does.

Wong trusts Strange, that is why he doesn't try to intervene. It is also why you see Strange bow to him at the end of the movie. He recognizes how much of a fool he was and that he isn't the leader, he isn't the one in full control ande that he still has a lot of learning to do, a lot of growing up.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

Raimi did it. He made a Marvel horror movie. The spectacle of a Marvel film with the bonkers horror of an Evil Dead movie. Surprised he got away with some of what he did.

 

[Rentahamster]

Raimi did it. He made a Marvel horror movie. The spectacle of a Marvel film with the bonkers horror of an Evil Dead movie. Surprised he got away with some of what he did.

Yes, and I wish he could have gotten away with more.

Here's hoping for an unrated extended cut but that is unlikely.

 

[Revolutionary]

It's a mediocre script saved by an accomplished director. But no director could possibly make me care about America Chavez.

 

[Javthusiast]

I had fun. Wish Feige and Disney had the balls to make it more brutal and scary. Let Raimi loose more.

 

[chromhound]

Should i watch it full price or wait on a Tuesday (way cheaper)?

 

[MrMephistoX]

Just done watch it, really a non-stop trip across the multiverse, wow. Pretty great movie, Wanda’s kids have more screen time than I expected, but not for Mordo. I really like how America Chavez can just punch a multiverse portal like that

the Illuminati barely put up a fight against Wanda (lol Wanda straight up sealing Black Bolt’s mouth Matrix style)…realy shows how powerful Scarlet Witch is

Also wasn’t expecting Clea to show up to invite a (Darkhold-corrupted) Strange to more multiverse adventure after the end

I loved it and also kind of loved how insanely powerful she was yet the stakes were actually kind of low. Not every movie has to be a world ending event.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

Solo movie.

I can see this probably as a Phase 5 movie in 2025 or so since we already have a pretty good idea for 2023 and 2024. By then we'll probably already know how mutants are coming to the MCU and they can make her papa come rescue her from under the rubble and tell her she's really a mutant and get her to join the brotherhood. Probably won't happen but in my mind it will.

 

[ManaByte]

Nope.

What are you taking about. That’s exactly what happens.

 

[bitbydeath]

What are you taking about. That’s exactly what happens.

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She doesn’t die. There’s no body, that’s movies 101, even Captain Marvel had an arm sticking out after being crushed to death. There’s no funeral scene. It’s something she could easily survive if she chose, it later mentions she destroyed the darkhold in every universe, which she wouldn’t have time to do in the scene we last saw her in. She’s alive.

 

[ManaByte]

The John Krasinski reveal got a pop

Right before his head popped.

 

[Alcibiades]

Saw it yesterday, was kind of disappointed. Was thinking how long it took to get to multiverse stuff and how little multiverse stuff actually happens. They spent most of their time in one alternative universe, not like they are hopping through a dozen which is was what I was expecting. Also, when I heard it was going to be fan-service and cameos, I was expecting a hint towards the Fox Men Universe (besides a single actor). I had not seen any trailers or looked at any posters beyond a glance. I guess due to the title "Multi-verse of Madness" I thought there'd be one crazy thing happening after another beyond the Dr. Strange vs Wanda story. I was hoping to see something going way beyond what No Way Home did and seeing tons of universes and maybe even a Hugh Jackman appearance. The movie turned out to be pretty small-scale all things considered. Not that this is a problem but after what happened in Spiderman this isn't really doing anything too crazy or exploding minds audiences or anything.

Also, I remember the Dr. Strange actor saying to an audience that this was going to be the first "dark" MCU movie and the audience went nuts. I thought it was stupid to indicate as such and I'd prefer to never have read that, since it probably influenced my expectations. Outside of Wanda gruesomely killing some alternate superheroes, I didn't think it was THAT dark, certainly not more so than some moments in Infinity War. I also don't see this as a "horror" movie at all. The dark and zombie elements are closer to "Hocus Pocus"-style horror than a proper horror movie. You can't keep the funny-quip-every-minute MCU style and maintain the "dark" and "horror" style at the same time. For those that watched New Mutants (which I thought was alright despite the reviews), THAT was much more of a dark "horror" superhero movie than this. Chronicle is another good example. Neither of those would have properly kept their dark tone if MCU-style humor was sprinkled throughout. Something has to give, either the movie maintains the MCU funny stuff or truly goes in a different direction. Compare Deadpool to Days of Future Past, both of those movies picked a direction and stuck to it.

I think the above made the movie felt disjointed at times. Like on top of trying to get a good Dr. Strange vs. Wanda story, it was supposed to be multiverse fan service, Raimi "horror", etc...

Then I saw it again today and had a much better time with it. I saw less as a Spiderman multiverse followup and more of a simple battle between two wizards. I think it still feels a bit disjointed and the pacing is nothing like the perfection of Infinity War, but overall it's a fun movie with cool appearances by alternate superheroes. If they had kept the name "Multiverse" out of the title and if I had never seen them trying to sell this as "dark" and if I hadn't seen Twitter predict a ton of fan-service "cameos" I would have enjoyed it a lot better.

 

[Cocksman]

Pretty cool movie. I liked it well enough , although I must say Strange himself doesn’t have much of an arc. I do hope they can sign John Krasinski long term to play Reed. He was great. I think he’s probably a one off though.

 

[ArtHands]

Saw it yesterday, was kind of disappointed. Was thinking how long it took to get to multiverse stuff and how little multiverse stuff actually happens. They spent most of their time in one alternative universe, not like they are hopping through a dozen which is was what I was expecting. Also, when I heard it was going to be fan-service and cameos, I was expecting a hint towards the Fox Men Universe (besides a single actor). I had not seen any trailers or looked at any posters beyond a glance. I guess due to the title "Multi-verse of Madness" I thought there'd be one crazy thing happening after another beyond the Dr. Strange vs Wanda story. I was hoping to see something going way beyond what No Way Home did and seeing tons of universes and maybe even a Hugh Jackman appearance. The movie turned out to be pretty small-scale all things considered. Not that this is a problem but after what happened in Spiderman this isn't really doing anything too crazy or exploding minds audiences or anything.

Also, I remember the Dr. Strange actor saying to an audience that this was going to be the first "dark" MCU movie and the audience went nuts. I thought it was stupid to indicate as such and I'd prefer to never have read that, since it probably influenced my expectations. Outside of Wanda gruesomely killing some alternate superheroes, I didn't think it was THAT dark, certainly not more so than some moments in Infinity War. I also don't see this as a "horror" movie at all. The dark and zombie elements are closer to "Hocus Pocus"-style horror than a proper horror movie. You can't keep the funny-quip-every-minute MCU style and maintain the "dark" and "horror" style at the same time. For those that watched New Mutants (which I thought was alright despite the reviews), THAT was much more of a dark "horror" superhero movie than this. Chronicle is another good example. Neither of those would have properly kept their dark tone if MCU-style humor was sprinkled throughout. Something has to give, either the movie maintains the MCU funny stuff or truly goes in a different direction. Compare Deadpool to Days of Future Past, both of those movies picked a direction and stuck to it.

I think the above made the movie felt disjointed at times. Like on top of trying to get a good Dr. Strange vs. Wanda story, it was supposed to be multiverse fan service, Raimi "horror", etc...

Then I saw it again today and had a much better time with it. I saw less as a Spiderman multiverse followup and more of a simple battle between two wizards. I think it still feels a bit disjointed and the pacing is nothing like the perfection of Infinity War, but overall it's a fun movie with cool appearances by alternate superheroes. If they had kept the name "Multiverse" out of the title and if I had never seen them trying to sell this as "dark" and if I hadn't seen Twitter predict a ton of fan-service "cameos" I would have enjoyed it a lot better.

Marvel has never indicate that this will be a cameo fest in their advertisements. I blame the shitty clickbait culture where they injects ridiculous rumors and fan theories to hype up gullible people to a nonsensical levels.

 

[Alcibiades]

Marvel has never indicate that this will be a cameo fest in their advertisements. I blame the shitty clickbait culture where they injects ridiculous rumors and fan theories to hype up gullible people to a nonsensical levels.

It was literally a single Tweet I read that made me think that, yeah media hypers go too far.

For comparison, I went to go watch Everything Everywhere All At Once blind and after a few minutes Iegit thought it was going to be a serious drama indie movie, maybe something like Joy Luck Club. When I saw the first scene hinting at something more (security cam) I didn't know what to think. Ninja? Secret Agent? Double life? Superhero? Little by little the film got crazier and was a mind blowing experience.

Sad to see few people have that experience because they build expectations ahead of time. I wish I hadn't hear anything about Dr. Strange 2, that it didn't have the title that it did, and that I hadn't read that tweet. I would probably have been blown away on the first watch.

 

[FunkMiller]

Given this, No Way Home and that upcoming Flash movie, it seems like fanbait cameos, memberberry nostalgia shit, multiverse wankery, and audience pandering are where the superhero genre is heading. And frankly, I’m increasingly fucking out. The genre has become so very stale, and has to resort to this stunt ‘aha!’ stuff to get audiences excited.

 

[ManaByte]

Given this, No Way Home and that upcoming Flash movie, it seems like fanbait cameos, memberberry nostalgia shit, multiverse wankery, and audience pandering are where the superhero genre is heading. And frankly, I’m increasingly fucking out. The genre has become so very stale, and has to resort to this stunt ‘aha!’ stuff to get audiences excited.

Perfect timing for the Return of the King.

 

[FunkMiller]

Perfect timing for the Return of the King.

He does have a habit of turning the cinematic landscape on its head. Only Nolan has really been someone who competes with him in terms of influencing movie output, though Cameron has been doing it far, far longer. I’m sometimes not his biggest fan (he peaked in the early 90s for me) but Cameron’s ability to change things is undeniable.