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DarkMage619
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First off it's wonderful to see yet another concerned Sony fan speaking about the 'lies' MS has told when marketing the XSS. I hope you will take some actual action to bring MS to justice over just hurling accusations. Now lets see your points:
The storage on the XSS is one of the easiest things to deal with. It has supported cold storage for games since day one. I realize elsewhere it took a while to get but that was not true of this device that is 'factually not well designed'. For the target casual audience I doubt storage would be a major concern but there is cheap and easy way to deal with it if necessary.
The stuff about the X1X is horrible advice and I hope no one would ever listen to that. The X1X has a WORSE HDD, CPU, lacks all of the current generation features like Quick Resume, FPS boost, raytracing, and runs all cross generational games at lower framerates. It also is missing current generation games like Flight Simulator entirely. I know it may be hard to believe but there are people out there who aren't interested in gaming in 4K. I have a good friend who still has a 1080p television and there are many people out there in the same state. The XSS plays games BETTER than the X1X does just at a lower resolution and that is what 'lying' MS has always said. Maybe the definition of 'lie' has changed and I wasn't aware.
What I do find it quite interesting that people that like the Xbox platform, games, or Game pass are all labeled 'shills'. Apparently only Sony and Nintendo exclusive fans actually like those respective systems because of the games. Xbox fans are all paid off! How ridiculous. Maybe JUST MAYBE MS has produced a more compelling product this generation and fans of that product appreciate it for what it is an outstanding value and home to some fantastic games. Tastes are subjective but MS is developing and releasing games that aren't available on other consoles. There is nothing wrong with liking different games but it is super insulting to call people who like different things names. That's not right man.
You have no idea how many XSS systems have been sold. The XSS was never targeted at a hardcore audience and the people most likely to buy it would need to see it in the stores. On top of all that only Nintendo and Sony are focused solely on how many consoles they sell. MS is going to allow last generation consoles to stream some current games. That would most likely mean MS could be selling less consoles but again providing customers more options, convenience, and value. That is MS' focus not how many boxes they sell.
What is BS are the lame and nonsensical arguments people are making against the cheapest console this generation. MS is doing things different than last generation and offering products other companies are not. They are doing these things without affecting whatever other companies are doing so why so many non-customers would care is strange to me. You don't like Xbox? Fine ignore them. Keep on enjoying whatever device you have and live your life. There is no need to call fans of other platforms names or lie about the products you don't even own and never plan to.
MS never said said there would be no compromises when running games on the XSS. They promised that the system would have RT hardware which you acknowledged it does. It also has a multitude of 60 and 120 fps titles. Far more than any system last gen and more 120 fps titles than the PS5 does right now. The 'experience' Jason Ronald was talking about were about the core features of gaming on Xbox this generation. Some examples are Quick Resume. FPS boost, and an extensive BC and emulation capability. All of those features are present on the XSS.
Oh dear another MS has 'lied' argument. Please tell me what things MS said the XSS could do that it can not. It should be pretty easy to provide a list since you are so knowledgeable about the system.
What criteria are you using to determine that the system is not well designed? Can you think of another game console that offers 120fps games and raytracing for $300? What about the fact that it is an outstanding value and even now offers features other pricier consoles don't? Seems pretty enticing to me. Especially when I can get games and a system for just the cost of a system elsewhere. No paywalled cloud saves? Bonus.
The storage on the XSS is one of the easiest things to deal with. It has supported cold storage for games since day one. I realize elsewhere it took a while to get but that was not true of this device that is 'factually not well designed'. For the target casual audience I doubt storage would be a major concern but there is cheap and easy way to deal with it if necessary.
There was a poll taken that asked gamers what was more important, resolution or framerate. Framerate won. Phil Spencer said as much. The XSS was designed to focus on framerate. MS was DIRECT in saying that resolution was an area the XSS would not excel in. To then later point out the the XSS runs games at a lower resolution looks a little silly. If resolution is very important to you MS sells a product that has higher resolutions. If value and price are your focus the XSS is the perfect product for that. Options are good for the consumer. Remember when people said MS wasn't thinking about the gamer? That isn't true anymore.
The stuff about the X1X is horrible advice and I hope no one would ever listen to that. The X1X has a WORSE HDD, CPU, lacks all of the current generation features like Quick Resume, FPS boost, raytracing, and runs all cross generational games at lower framerates. It also is missing current generation games like Flight Simulator entirely. I know it may be hard to believe but there are people out there who aren't interested in gaming in 4K. I have a good friend who still has a 1080p television and there are many people out there in the same state. The XSS plays games BETTER than the X1X does just at a lower resolution and that is what 'lying' MS has always said. Maybe the definition of 'lie' has changed and I wasn't aware.
Finally we've come to the coup de grace. Calling people who like the XSS 'shills'. That guy you called a shill actually has an XSS. Do you? Why should we take your word over what he has to say? Do you know more about gaming on the XSS than he does?
What I do find it quite interesting that people that like the Xbox platform, games, or Game pass are all labeled 'shills'. Apparently only Sony and Nintendo exclusive fans actually like those respective systems because of the games. Xbox fans are all paid off! How ridiculous. Maybe JUST MAYBE MS has produced a more compelling product this generation and fans of that product appreciate it for what it is an outstanding value and home to some fantastic games. Tastes are subjective but MS is developing and releasing games that aren't available on other consoles. There is nothing wrong with liking different games but it is super insulting to call people who like different things names. That's not right man.
You have no idea how many XSS systems have been sold. The XSS was never targeted at a hardcore audience and the people most likely to buy it would need to see it in the stores. On top of all that only Nintendo and Sony are focused solely on how many consoles they sell. MS is going to allow last generation consoles to stream some current games. That would most likely mean MS could be selling less consoles but again providing customers more options, convenience, and value. That is MS' focus not how many boxes they sell.
What is BS are the lame and nonsensical arguments people are making against the cheapest console this generation. MS is doing things different than last generation and offering products other companies are not. They are doing these things without affecting whatever other companies are doing so why so many non-customers would care is strange to me. You don't like Xbox? Fine ignore them. Keep on enjoying whatever device you have and live your life. There is no need to call fans of other platforms names or lie about the products you don't even own and never plan to.
vaibhavpisal
Member
I thought we would never hear this non sense again and people had educated themselves.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
I have to agree, the only advantage the One X had over the S is raw resolution, it loses out in terms of foreword compatibility, loading speed, frame rates, etc. Saving for an X is another argument, in some cases it makes sense, in others it makes no sense at all.
AlabtrosMyster may only see regret from those who bought the machine, and yet people who actually own the machine are saying the opposite. And many seem to act like buying console is a life sentence, when in reality, should an S buyer find they really want to upgrade, they can still get decent cash for the S and move up the X at a later date if needed.
Or just move it to the bedroom or a secondary TV.
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DeltaPolarBear
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If those two things are the only metric, you can make games that do this for a LOT of the older consoles, if you are willing to dumb down the graphics and content. Series S just happened to dumb down the graphics and content a lot to fit those things in.
SkylineRKR
Member
Honestly I expected more 1440p support for the S but on the other hand I didn't expect so much 120hz. The machine runs about everything in higher framerate. I have this PS5 next to it, but do you think I fire up Prey, Alien, Dishonored or TF2 on that? On S these games are far better lol.
One X is much, much worse. I've thought about it last year, to try GP and some classics. But the one One X still went for 400, and I've seen numerous videos on the loading in FH4, the framerate tanking much more in GoW5.. Basically the One X is designed for 4k (not really, its mostly 1440-1620 something, there are some native games), and sacrifices performance for it. And then there is the load times. I played Sea of Thieves with friends on One X, I constantly had to wait for them to come back.
Look high resolution is fine. But framerate and load times are better. If you want both, get a Series X or PS5. I have the latter also. But if you're on a budget, the S is really nice value and gets a LOT of playtime here.
One X is much, much worse. I've thought about it last year, to try GP and some classics. But the one One X still went for 400, and I've seen numerous videos on the loading in FH4, the framerate tanking much more in GoW5.. Basically the One X is designed for 4k (not really, its mostly 1440-1620 something, there are some native games), and sacrifices performance for it. And then there is the load times. I played Sea of Thieves with friends on One X, I constantly had to wait for them to come back.
Look high resolution is fine. But framerate and load times are better. If you want both, get a Series X or PS5. I have the latter also. But if you're on a budget, the S is really nice value and gets a LOT of playtime here.
DavidGzz
Member
The hilarious thing is that this guy plays on a Switch and wonders why others are fine with 900p-1440p. I guess the Switch was a mistake and the new console from Nintendo coming THIS year(that plays games at sub 1080p with MUCH worse graphics at $100 more money) is an even bigger one.
You'll come back claiming it's a handheld, so it's fine. Yeah, 720p is fine for a handheld. So is 1080p on a 1080p tv, genius. For people who have a 4k television, MS has an answer...
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
Those are two metrics are unmatched on any platform for $300. The system is a value platform and it is offering value no other system is at that price point. There are plenty of gamers who care more about framerate than resolution and XSS is a fantastic option for those people. Your hypothetical is meaningless if those games you are talking about don't exist.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
This comment is funnier once you realize that it applies to every single next gen console.
SkylineRKR
Member
Yeah this.
Generally, most PS5 and Series X games don't hit 2160p at all. They're often closer to 1440p. So yeah, makes sense that the S version isn't going to hit 1440p in this case. But its fine. 1440p is perfect. It looks awesome on my 55 CX. At times I switch graphics mode, I can't find much of a difference in IQ and then switch back to framerate mode. Like FFVII R. Yeah 4k mode (not even native 4k) seems to look better when you're not moving. But once you walk around, jesus christ, I'll dial it back.
Says the guy who turned "we believe in generations" into "there will be no crossgen games" then went on to call Jim a liar. Come on man you're completely transparent. Don't make me dig up those posts of yours.
dcmk7
Banned
That's a lie. Jason Ronald said it would be the same.
JUST at a lower rendering resolution.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
New native XSX 900p games?! Where?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
You must have loved OG PS3 which sold a few hundred $ below actual cost (and allowed users to cheaply change the HDD, having built-in HDMI at launch, and including WIFi instead of asking you to buy a $60 dongle)… something tells me you were not the “value above all” champion of PS3 back then
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Banjo64
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I was, loved the PS3.You must have loved OG PS3 sold a few hundred $ below actual cost (and slowing users to cheaply change the HDD, having built-in HDMI at launch, and including WIFi instead of asking you to buy a $60 dongle)… something tells me you were not the “value above all” champion of PS3 back then
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Hehe, me too… I just kick myself once a day to remind me I should have never updated the FW and lost the ability to play SACD. I really really hate that they removed a feature like that from existing users :/.
dcmk7
Banned
You must have loved OG PS3 sold a few hundred $ below actual cost (and slowing users to cheaply change the HDD, having built-in HDMI at launch, and including WIFi instead of asking you to buy a $60 dongle)… something tells me you were not the “value above all” champion of PS3 back then
Have a feeling he would have been dead against BC too, since 360 barely had any.
I am waiting for my 8k game....
LastBattle
Member
I have a series X and have been thinking about picking up a PS5, but have decided to upgrade my old Xbox One to a Series S in our bedroom (1080p tv) instead. Love the Xbox Ecco system and play anywhere features.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
That's a lie. Jason Ronald said it would be the same.
JUST at a lower rendering resolution.
Your beating this to death. You need to accept that for the most part, for most buyers, the series S does deliver on what he's saying here. Yes some games aren't as high res, some games don't have rt. But do they have similar assets, fast loading, and basically look like series x running at a lower resolution? Yep. Are most gamers who bought one happy? Yes. Does it matter if dkmk7 is upset about Jason overinflating the claims in a promo video like every other game manufacturer since consoles have launched?
No.
Hey remember when atari 2600 said "arcade graphics at home" and really didn't deliver that? Or a more recent example, the ps4 promising 4k gaming but that never really happened. "Play the latest PS4 blockbuster games and PlayStation exclusives in stunning 4K" Straight from Sony's website, even today.
Yet there are tons of ps4 pro enhanced games running at 1080p, 1440p, or checkboard 4k.
dcmk7
Banned
It's actually correcting someone, (who agreed with me earlier) the claims that were made - it having the same next gen experiences as the XSX, just at lower resolution, hasn't proven to be true at all.
Even first party studios have dropped features in XSS games.
How about you call the other user in the discussion out, and tell him he's flogging a dead horse next time?
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th4tguy
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I do play games on the switch. I consider the switch a last gen console and am disappointed the oled model wasn’t actually a new iteration on the hardware that is more powerful.
I think Sony handled the cheaper console option better this time around. Diskless system for $100 less than disk based system. Same hardware otherwise.
If the series s was a series x but without a disk drive, that is what I would be going for. Instead I’ll continue trying to get a series x.
Cool mist of my casual friends play Call of Duty and FIFA I assume Gamepass included those games as you said it's perfect for casuals.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Dirt 5. There are others on PS5 if we include BC.
Mr.ODST
Member
Shut up you absolute bellend.
He isnt saying that, he is saying since they dont have 4K tv etc they dont need the highest performing console if they dont want to spend that much cash.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I am talking native games… also are you talking about 120 Hz modes now and the bottom of DRS scaling?
Schmick
Member
Well.... technically Gamepass does have FIFA and although not COD does have Battelfield games and will no doubt have Battlefield 2042 at some point.
But lets not forget Fortnite (not GP but F2P) and Minecraft. They are also available for the casuals.
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Most casuals play the latest COD and FIFA. Minecraft and Fortnite are available on cheaper consoles such as tablets, PS4 and Xbox One S.
Schmick
Member
So I guess it's just the hardcore gamers buying PS5's then. The fastest selling consoles ever.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Yes, just like your friend who always points out the worst possible resolution at 120 hz mode to make a point about how XSS is so bad
Bellend? No need for hostility is Phil Spencer your dad.
Majority of people nowadays do have a 4KTV or anyone who buys a TV will end up with a 4KTV as HD TV no longer sold or not as common in stores. The people who don't want to spend that much cash will get a PS4/Xbox One that causal market you are on about that don't care about graphics are usually kids who like Fortnite which is available on every console and tablet under the sun. For new games and if there are budgets conscious they would still get a Series X and PS5 Disk as there are many people who will by the physical game disks. Most people who are interested in the latest FIFA and COD still want the 4K console not some budget system. And Gamepass is not something that appeals to casuals who play the latest COD and FIFA. If Series S is so successful and appealing why are they in stock everywhete and the other systems sold out. Why in the UK we having firesales and crazy trade in deals for Series S. Why can I keep seeing unwanted Series S gifts on Facebook marketplace of people wanting to sell or trade for Series X or PS5.
I can't deny that maybe some of the target audience you are talking about are there just like any product but you are overestimating its appeal. If it sold so good Microsoft would be giving numbers of the sales but for some strange reason they are quiet about the sales.
There are 3 causal markets
Firenite and Minecraft crowd
Mario, Pokémon and Animal Crossing crowd
GTA, FIFA and COD crowd
My argument is Series S doenst hit any of these markets as well. The GTA and COD crowd still would prefer Series X and PS5 over a Series S they are smart enough to know how valuable the upgrade is. Mario crowd will just buy Nintnedo. Fortnite crowd will never need to upgrade as they most likely have a system that runs the game.
Helghan
Member
Are you also such a warrior in topics about PS5 performance? Cerny saying it's a native 4K machine, and it still renders lower resolutions, just as Xbox Series X btw.
Why does it make sense for the Fortnite crowd when Fortnite is available on PS4 and Xbox One S and tablets. Is there a Fortnite 2 for Series and PS5 consoles only that I'm not aware of.
dcmk7
Banned
You label me a warrior and then go on to ask whether I have consistent standards with other consoles? That makes no sense at all.
But, if you actually notice I'm not talking about resolution. Missing game features and modes between XSS and XSX.. the marketing claim that XSS users will get the same experience has turned out to be not true. So far at least.
Not sure why me stating facts and providing proof is considered warring.
No one else in this discussion is providing any facts or proof to the contrary, are they just trolling?
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Please do not waste one bit of time to be sarcastic or troll, not once. If you were paid for it I would be asking to revise your per post rateYes, just like your friend who always points out the worst possible resolution at 120 hz mode to make a point about how XSS is so bad
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Connxtion
Member
Am confused here.
Even if 1 game is exactly the same but at a lower resolution that means what was stated was infact true.
Off the top of my head these 2 are the same but lower resolutions.
Psychonauts 2
Little Nightmare 2
so can we stop with this now?
I would also add Metro but that has some graphical settings turned down (draw distance for example) and since you are very specific that it must be exactly the same but only resolution I left it out.
There will be more, but can’t be bother to look
As it’s an non issue for me.
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Bernd Lauert
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It is indeed a complete non issue. And entirely dependant on how devs implement stuff. Accusing the dude of false marketing is total nonsense, nothing he said was wrong.Am confused here.
Even if 1 game is exactly the same but at a lower resolution that means what was stated was infact true.
Off the top of my head these 2 are the same but lower resolutions.
Psychonauts 2
Little Nightmare 2
so can we stop with this now?
I would also add Metro but that has some graphical settings turned down (draw distance for example) and since you are very specific that it must be exactly the same but only resolution I left it out.
There will be more, but can’t be bother to look
Riky
$MSFT
I know of another console that has at least three big games that are already below 1080p, including a first party one.
At the end of the day saying something is "designed" to do something is not a promise or guarantee no matter how people want to spin it. Also the games they quote statistics on are not 4k on the bigger machines, they just don't mention that because they are being totally disingenuous.
Also Jason Ronald said before launch,
"Developers have a whole host of different techniques, whether that’s changing the resolution of their title, things like dynamic resolution scaling frame to frame — that’s something we’ve seen a lot of adoption of, especially towards the end of this generation,” explains Ronald. “And obviously the ability to enable and display different visual effects, without actually implementing the fundamental gameplay.”
"When we think about the Xbox velocity architecture or sampler feedback streaming, those are areas where we expect a lot of innovation over the generation,” explains Ronald. “With something like sampler feedback streaming, it can deliver performance well beyond the raw hardware specs itself. So much of this generation is about efficiency.”"
hopefully we'll see big gains when the full suite of RDNA2 performance saving features come into play.
dcmk7
Banned
He's allowed to make a claim that XSS users will get the same experience as the XSX users just at a lower rendering resolution.. as soon as a single title hit's that target? What on earth..
What part of that isn't supposed to be deceptive and misleading exactly? It's an a totally absurd view but that's your opinion of course.
But similiar to an other user you have inadvertently kind of proven my point, you recognise not all the titles will live up to his claim. Thus he's bent the truth like a number of users in here today.
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Xdrive05
Member
A lot of concern trolling in here.
The only problem with the Series S is its relative positioning in the market when a fully spec'd PS5 digital is only $100 more (assuming availability).
I also suspect that Series S can more easily become $249 than PS5 digital can become $349 in the future, so MS may have that hand to play if it comes down to it.
The only problem with the Series S is its relative positioning in the market when a fully spec'd PS5 digital is only $100 more (assuming availability).
I also suspect that Series S can more easily become $249 than PS5 digital can become $349 in the future, so MS may have that hand to play if it comes down to it.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Follow the conversation in this very thread, you will see how many lies you bought into... I won't go point by point because every single statement you made is proved false here and in a million other places, by me and other people, with proof (not just free assessment that you have to take as fact).
I even grant that the machine is well designed, however it's also very flawed and not worth 300$, telling your friends (or even enemies) to buy it is bad advice and it will result in them having to spend more than if they bought a better machine in the first place. You have to remember that there is an actual "next-gen" machine just 100$ more, and that the full fledged series X is only 200$ more (which is all covered if you ever have to buy the storage expansion, which is almost guaranteed to happen).
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Oh the secret sauce MS is holding in its wing for the final blow to Sony? I can't wait to see it in action.
Riky
$MSFT
We've already seen Tier 2 VRS in Doom Eternal which is the least of the features giving better performance on Series X.
DaleinCalgary
Member
I am expecting price drops on consoles is a thing of the past besides $50 Black Friday etc sales.
hououinkyouma00
Member
This is a big problem for me. If somebody ever has a need for the expansion (assuming that upcoming (?) third party drives aren't much cheaper) then it seems pointless to get a Series S over and X in many ways. That's not saying there isn't reasons to get a Series S but if you are going to spend $500 either way then why not get the console that does a bunch of stuff better?
I think the marketing is a big point. We got introduced to the console as a machine that would match the Series X but simply in 1440p versus 2160p which is obviously not true. Most of the time it's a 1080p machine even if we ignore missing features in some games. First impressions do mean things to people. Thankfully they at least took away the 1440p marketing I believe. They would have known better that it wasn't going to be a 1440p machine.
Also the overall marketing for the console is like non-existant in general, why?
I find the Series S so interesting, and I want to like it a lot but there's too many shortcomings for me to ever own it. I bought one, and ended up returning it for a Series X after a couple weeks. I think a bump to 6TF and a bit more memory would have made the console a serious choice especially at that price point. Even losing more money, I think it would have been a good choice next to the $400 PS5 DE. The Series X simply does things much better for most people. That doesn't mean there isn't a reason to own a Series S, it's just that I think most people are better off buying a Series X. Again, before Darkmagewhatever comes at me, I think the Series S is a cool console I just simply don't think the value is there for a good amount of people.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
I'm sorry weren't you the guy saying that the Xbox wouldn't have any graphically impressive games? Boy that claim aged like milk. In addition you didn't see GT7 advertised as a PS5 exclusive only to magically become cross gen later on? I stand by my statement. Sony made a big deal about being all about generations and then backtracked. Compared to MS which will soon allow X1 consoles to play Series games. One was consistent one changed their mind. This also has nothing to do with the XSS but glad you stopped by.
That's a lie. Jason Ronald said it would be the same.
JUST at a lower rendering resolution.
I've answered this 100 times to you already see below. If he was lying name the features the XSS is missing dude.
I can't wait for you to call Sony liars because of ReturnalNope my point was he helped design a system that has all the same features as a console $200 more but it comes at the cost of graphics. If developers choose not to use to features its up to them. To hold the console engineer responsible for the games developers make on the console is ridiculous.
I've asked you numerous times for ONE example of a missing feature on the XSS outside of the blu-ray drive. You have no answer. I asked you to show a PC or console that provides more features and performance for the same money. You have no answer. I asked why you make a big deal when the XSS is missing a GRAPHICAL feature when other more costly consoles miss those features and again you have no answer. Just more nonsense about how MS and Jason Ronald are liars. How interesting.
Returnal is a 1st party Sony game. It doesn't run natively at 4K nor does it have ray traced reflections. The game isn't held back by needing to run on multiple platforms. Are you going to call Sony liars because this game doesn't use the features of the PS5? It should really upset you seeing how the PS5 is more expensive than the XSS. Why not have the same energy? We both know why.
We are not in agreement because Jason Ronald was accurate when he described the capabilities of the XSS. It has hardware raytracing, it has multiple titles that run at 120fps and has the exact same feature set of the XSX minus the drive. It does everything all the current generation consoles can do and it some cases even more. It does these things for $300. You and your friends HAVE spread misinformation trying to twist a comment into something that was never claimed. I don't know why you are on this crusade but you really should take your complaints to the BBB if you think they have merit.
I am a hardcore gamer. I bought the PS3 at launch for over $600. It was hardly a 'value' at all but I am not a value oriented customer. That's why I purchased the XSX over the XSS. Still doesn't mean the XSS isn't a fantastic value offering more features than consoles that are more expensive. You statement about PS3 doesn't change that fact at all.You must have loved OG PS3 which sold a few hundred $ below actual cost (and allowed users to cheaply change the HDD, having built-in HDMI at launch, and including WIFi instead of asking you to buy a $60 dongle)… something tells me you were not the “value above all” champion of PS3 back then
Looks like you didn't provide that list of missing XSS features but you now acknowledge that it is well designed. I suppose that's some progress. You can't go point through point against my arguments because I am right. You have not provided a shred of evidence that we should take your horrible advice about buying the X1X over the XSS or explained why you as a guy who doesn't have the XSS should be listened to over the 'shill' you called out who actually DOES have the console. Just accept you don't know what you are talking about and enjoy whatever console you have. The XSS is well designed and a perfect device for it's target audience. Just because you and Sony fans dislike it is meaningless.
The only thing that was overinflated was the 1440p claim. He should have said UP TO 1440p. Of course even that isn't 100% accurate because there are games with higher resolutions. People attacking the XSS and Jason Ronald have never made a sincere point about the system at all.
I don't come after anyone. I just push back against lies and misinformation. The Xbox platform supports cold storage. If you want to store your games you don't have to buy the Seagate card. As far as your comments about the XSS it is not for everyone. Just like not everyone wants an XSX. Most of the people on this forum are more hardcore in nature so there is an inclination to lean towards the 'best' of something. Still there was nothing misleading about the XSS because again no one can show the missing features it has. You cannot use your own personal satiation to draw the conclusion for everyone else especially when the bubble for hardcore gamers is pretty small.
dcmk7
Banned
Yep, and you agreed with me.. no amount of backtracking will change his or your words on the matter. Just deal with it better maybe..?
Ultimately he was in no position to say what he said.. But he said it anyway.
Hence why it was misleading to many people..
You have only changed your tune once you realised you was casting MS in a bad light. It's really weird behaviour. Sad!
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