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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
For its price and being an upgrade from OG Xbox One its a great little machine
Tomeru
Member
I really dont get the brilliant part. It looks almost exactly like an xbox one s board, which is just like the phat xbox board, only smaller. It is designed like a pc motherboard. Thats like saying a new mATX board is designed brilliantly when these are as old as fuck, with very little change over the years 
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And before someone gets their panties in a bunch, the only modern home console that could be said to be "brillinatly" designed is the sex. The ps5? Some part of it, sure. The series s has nothing brilliant about its design imho, and thats not really a minus.
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And before someone gets their panties in a bunch, the only modern home console that could be said to be "brillinatly" designed is the sex. The ps5? Some part of it, sure. The series s has nothing brilliant about its design imho, and thats not really a minus.
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Kuranghi
Member
I really wanted to write "nuht! its rubbish!" to pretend to be a submental console wanker but I realised it will just be taken as console warrior bullshit so enjoy this deconstruction/ruining of the joke instead.
I'm can't wait to be able to buy out my cousins XSS from him when he gets a Switch (He's 8yo) and turn it into an emulation machine. For someone in the know what kind of internal res can you do in Dolphin with this? Can you render at 4K internal (or the equivalent multiplier) and get locked 60fps in Super Mario Galaxy for instance? Can you go further and supersample the 4K?
I could do 4K internal with 4xSSAA on my GTX 1080 and 8xSSAA was only just too much, prob wouldn've been fine on a 1080 ti. Is the XSS like a 1070, in terms of GPU grunt or what?
I'm can't wait to be able to buy out my cousins XSS from him when he gets a Switch (He's 8yo) and turn it into an emulation machine. For someone in the know what kind of internal res can you do in Dolphin with this? Can you render at 4K internal (or the equivalent multiplier) and get locked 60fps in Super Mario Galaxy for instance? Can you go further and supersample the 4K?
I could do 4K internal with 4xSSAA on my GTX 1080 and 8xSSAA was only just too much, prob wouldn've been fine on a 1080 ti. Is the XSS like a 1070, in terms of GPU grunt or what?
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ManaByte
Member
Not even 10 posts in and it's already begun.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
I think the Xbox Series S is definitely a brilliant console overall, especially for the price.
But "once you remove this, it's not gonna go back on again" is far from what I would consider a brilliant design.
But "once you remove this, it's not gonna go back on again" is far from what I would consider a brilliant design.
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
He just bricked it messing around with it so he decided to make a vid. lol
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I think the actual article text would be more triggering.
"To be clear, my overall opinion of the console and its performance has not changed - Series S works but there's still the sense that the cutbacks to spec were a little too severe. Specifically, I still think it should have shipped with more memory and a wider interface for more bandwidth."
"It's still early days in the generation and in terms of how gaming will play out in the long term, it's still difficult to judge to what extent Series S will be able to keep up in a world where technologies like Unreal Engine 5 are already placing serious demands on Series X and PlayStation 5 hardware."
Xbox Series S teardown: inside Microsoft's smallest ever console
Sometimes experimenting with consoles in a non-warranty-friendly manner can go horribly wrong, so consider this piece a…
www.eurogamer.net
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I know a couple of people now that have replaced their launch day Xbox One with a Series S and are super thrilled with it.
They dont care about 4k I think one still plays on a smaller 720p TV, the S is perfect for many people.
skit_data
Member
I was hoping they would have provided us with teardowns of all consoles at this point.
I guess we will have to wait for Richard to brick a PS5 sometime in the following years for the circle to be complete
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Funny part. He criticizes the performance when that should be praised, and praises the design, when that's where the flaws lie.
What he advocates here is basically the perfect way to completely erase the strongest point of the console, IE: making it more pricey and less differentiated from the Series X. Talk about a weird take.
anthony2690
Banned
Some people genuinely need help, if this triggers them.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
This is such an important point. For the audience the XSS targets its a fantastic device. The biggest detractors aren't the people MS is going after so their complaints are pretty meaningless. If you want more power MS makes a device for that specific purpose.
This is also super important. The biggest goal for the XSS was to provide the most performance for $300. Anyone talking about how MS could have added more RAM or a more powerful SOC seem to forget that the point of the console is to REDUCE the cost of entry into the Xbox ecosystem not increase it. The XSS is just a capable as any other console this generation minus the reduction in graphical power. That won't prevent a developer from coding high end AI or advanced physics. This $300 box has raytracing for Pete's sake!
nightmare-slain
Member
the design puts me off. i really wish they'd get rid of the big black circle thing. shit, just make it white or even light grey. but black? otherwise yeah it's a great little machine. i'm trying to get hold of a Series X but i'm thinking maybe i should just grab an S to hold me off until the X. it's like £250 so it's basically nothing.
you're on a forum that is heavily biased towards Sony. there will be many salty fanboys that get upset over anything positive about xbox
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skit_data
Member
Pretty harsh criticism coming from Richard.I think the actual article text would be more triggering.
"To be clear, my overall opinion of the console and its performance has not changed - Series S works but there's still the sense that the cutbacks to spec were a little too severe. Specifically, I still think it should have shipped with more memory and a wider interface for more bandwidth."
"It's still early days in the generation and in terms of how gaming will play out in the long term, it's still difficult to judge to what extent Series S will be able to keep up in a world where technologies like Unreal Engine 5 are already placing serious demands on Series X and PlayStation 5 hardware."
Xbox Series S teardown: inside Microsoft's smallest ever console
Sometimes experimenting with consoles in a non-warranty-friendly manner can go horribly wrong, so consider this piece a…
But pretty much exactly my criticisms towards the Series S when the specs were revealed, and further reinforced seeing the Series S in action.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
I think there are pretty genuine reasons to find this a very weird take for what I mentioned above. Praising a design that doesn't come back together when dismantled seems really strange to me, almost as strange as criticizing its alleged lack of power when it's explicitly designed to run the games for cheap. And it's entirely successful at that. If one wants power, that's what the series X is for. Advocating two diversified products to be a lot less diversified seems to be bordering on incompetence for a tech journalist.
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Its perfect for someone that doesn't give a shit about resolutions over 1080p.
anthony2690
Banned
I am aware of the bias towards Sony here, but surely they could ignore Xbox threads if it upsets them so much.
They should be more upset over the fact that Sony has abandoned ape escape rather than Xbox existing
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
No its not. Supersampling down to 1080p gives a better image.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
What about seeing the XSS reinforced your criticisms? Was it the raytracing for $300 or the fact it has more features and 120 fps titles than systems that cost even more.? How does it compare to the X1 the system it replaced?
nightmare-slain
Member
lots of people then?
skit_data
Member
What about people who don’t really care about 4k, but want ray tracing and reasonable draw distances? Like me?
It’s really not that simple IMO.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
I can't wait until they axe it when the Series X gets cheaper
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
That shit is miniscule and often times the supersampling AA effect isn't worth the performance hit when things like TAA and TAAU are constantly improving. If i'm on a 1080p TV paying $200 more for what effectively amounts to better antialiasing seems a waste.
Chukhopops
Member
I have both an X and an S, both are great devices. The S plugged into a 1440p monitor is perfect for coop or when the TV isn’t available.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Too many holes
#UnapologeticallyBlack
#UnapologeticallyBlack
Javthusiast
Banned
Love my Series S. Haven't bought a single game since december 2020, whether on ps4 or xbox. Just rocking Game Pass.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
The beast will keep beasting, the haters will keep hating.
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Topher
Gold Member
I agree. That's why I returned mine. Playing on PC and PS5 made the difference with XSS a bit too stark for me. So now I'm trying to find an XSX. But for folks gaming on a 1080p TV, XSS is great.
Now I wish Xbox Series X had a digital version since Game Pass is primarily what I'll be using it for.
nightmare-slain
Member
they might axe it but chances are it'll likely be replaced by a new budget model. i can't see MS putting out a budget device and screwing people over in a few years.
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skit_data
Member
There are reasons 1st party developers doesn’t implement ray tracing (DOOM Eternal).
There sure is a lot of good stuff about the Series S, but there are also cutbacks outside of what was promised in certain games. It has swayed me from contemplating buying one to simply not be interested unless I see improvement on those fronts.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
It sounds like you have a very specific set of features you are looking for that no console really meets. The XSX and PS5 target 4k and the XSS targets Full HD but does have raytracing in some titles. Most people who are happy with 1080P gaming aren't usually super upset they don't have massive draw distances. I'd think you are not the norm when it comes to typical gamers.
Yeah that's not ever going to happy. The X1 wasn't dropped when the X1X came out. Their whole development pipeline is designed around 2 consoles and PC.
Just to do a quick timeline. Was ID a first party studio when Doom Eternal was first developed? If that is true why did they put it on PlayStation? Are you really making a real point?
You have every right to not want an XSS but there is no need to create imaginary standards for the budget console.
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JackMcGunns
Member
I'm just gon sit right here and watch folks get triggered
It is quite nicely made. Extremely simple with basically just the board, cooler and psu in a compact and easy to access form factor. No ribbons, excessive screws, funky board designs or shapes.
Draws less power than a PS4 slim while being significantly more powerful and smaller and silent. For the same price.
I don't really know anyone that has one that doesn't love it. Most people that share their disdain are those that haven't seen it, used it, and/or have no intent on getting one anyway and have a fantasy that it will hold back their precious Vidya.
Draws less power than a PS4 slim while being significantly more powerful and smaller and silent. For the same price.
I don't really know anyone that has one that doesn't love it. Most people that share their disdain are those that haven't seen it, used it, and/or have no intent on getting one anyway and have a fantasy that it will hold back their precious Vidya.
SkylineRKR
Member
It is a good system.
I enjoy it a ton. Ofcourse i'm a bit gutted about BC being One S versions, if they're not patched. And the storage should've been doubled. But its absolutely a good system to have on the side.
Play Doom Eternal on it for example, in 120hz. It looks amazing on my CX despite res being 1080p in 120hz. Plays like an absolute dream, is completely silent and load times are greatly diminished. You won't get this experience on any last-gen device and those cost just as much or even more. Its price is in the same ballpark as the OG PS4.
The system starts up within a second, you can't hear it (its more silent than my PS5), has quick resume and basically all next-gen features. Just at a lower resolution.
That and unaltered One S games aside, its a 60fps machine with also quite a bit of 120hz support. I played Alien Isolation, Prey etc all in high framerate on this thing. Which is impossible to do on Playstation. Which is why i'm happy I have this on the side. Series X does everything better but it costs almost twice as much. Series S is especially a no brainer if you happen to have a 1080p TV still.
I enjoy it a ton. Ofcourse i'm a bit gutted about BC being One S versions, if they're not patched. And the storage should've been doubled. But its absolutely a good system to have on the side.
Play Doom Eternal on it for example, in 120hz. It looks amazing on my CX despite res being 1080p in 120hz. Plays like an absolute dream, is completely silent and load times are greatly diminished. You won't get this experience on any last-gen device and those cost just as much or even more. Its price is in the same ballpark as the OG PS4.
The system starts up within a second, you can't hear it (its more silent than my PS5), has quick resume and basically all next-gen features. Just at a lower resolution.
That and unaltered One S games aside, its a 60fps machine with also quite a bit of 120hz support. I played Alien Isolation, Prey etc all in high framerate on this thing. Which is impossible to do on Playstation. Which is why i'm happy I have this on the side. Series X does everything better but it costs almost twice as much. Series S is especially a no brainer if you happen to have a 1080p TV still.
dcmk7
Banned
That comes across a little downbeat.I think the actual article text would be more triggering.
"To be clear, my overall opinion of the console and its performance has not changed - Series S works but there's still the sense that the cutbacks to spec were a little too severe. Specifically, I still think it should have shipped with more memory and a wider interface for more bandwidth."
"It's still early days in the generation and in terms of how gaming will play out in the long term, it's still difficult to judge to what extent Series S will be able to keep up in a world where technologies like Unreal Engine 5 are already placing serious demands on Series X and PlayStation 5 hardware."
Xbox Series S teardown: inside Microsoft's smallest ever console
Sometimes experimenting with consoles in a non-warranty-friendly manner can go horribly wrong, so consider this piece a…
There's been a few developers have expressed the same concerns. Be interesting to see what happens.
skit_data
Member
Maybe, it’s possible but considering Series S target audience I wouldn’t write them off completely.
Some people simply dont have enough space to get a big 4k TV, but still want the main selling point features associated with next ge-…wait isn’t that Series S target audience?
Just kidding, I’ll probably get a Series S somewhere down the line. I love the form factor and it is remarkably performant for its price. I simply think slightly more RAM would’ve sold me 100% on it instead of 85-90%.
dcmk7
Banned
Are you able to be in one Series S thread without labelling other peoples posts as not a 'real point'?
Why constantly antagonise people because they pointed out some unflattering facts? It seems excessive.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Hezekiah
Banned
Of course he's right. It's 2021 and the machine is already demonstrating severe drops in performance and cutbacks in game quality already.I think the actual article text would be more triggering.
"To be clear, my overall opinion of the console and its performance has not changed - Series S works but there's still the sense that the cutbacks to spec were a little too severe. Specifically, I still think it should have shipped with more memory and a wider interface for more bandwidth."
"It's still early days in the generation and in terms of how gaming will play out in the long term, it's still difficult to judge to what extent Series S will be able to keep up in a world where technologies like Unreal Engine 5 are already placing serious demands on Series X and PlayStation 5 hardware."
Xbox Series S teardown: inside Microsoft's smallest ever console
Sometimes experimenting with consoles in a non-warranty-friendly manner can go horribly wrong, so consider this piece a…
By the midpoint of the generation I imagine a lot of people who get it will have buyer's remorse. But for the Fortnite crowd / little kids it makes sense.
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