I think I'm going to buy the 2TB SN850 later this year.
Hopefully I will be able to find a deal around 400€, 500-550€ is just too much for the benefits.
I see that the SN850 has a RGB LED, obviously on PS5 such feature is useless but is there a model with the heatsink but no RGB LED?
Ah you're into smuggling I seeGot the SN850 2TB for 345€.
I see so it's cost that is the biggest complaint about the different directions for storage. Currently what is the delta in cost for a TB of storage? How large do you think that delta will be over the course of the generation?Yes, something did change. Consoles started using internal storage for more than just game saves. They started installing games, movies, and music as well. Vita was notorious because the cost of the proprietary storage was far more than standard microSD.
And yes, consoles have always been about ease and plug and play. This is no different. People are trying to make it out like this is difficult when it really isn't.
No there not, by not going proprietary that makes storage solutions more affordable for consumers. Which mean Consumers can purchase larger capacity SSD drives at cheaper prices overtime. Which means consumers can PURCHASE more digital content from the PSN Store which is were Sony make the bulk of there money. Digital Sales, Not hardware sales is whats important, in a year and a half Microsoft will find themselves in a situation similar to PS Vita and they cant do anything about it.Nor do they get a cut from any of these purchases. I'm actually surprised that Sony didn't partner with one of these SSD makers to release an official PS5 SSD. They're just leaving money on the table.
€345 is the price on amazon.de for the SN850 2TB WITHOUT a heatsink. With heatsink price jumps to €496. It's hilarious.Ah you're into smuggling I see
Lowest I found is 529€
Really good drive, having that for PC...since I always seems to run out of storage....and it's fast and chill. Far better than first gen4 drives. Which i early adopted...Got the SN850 2TB for 345€.
What a mess of a console
Don't feed the trollsBecause the update took a while or it's difficult to install the NVME?
I see so it's cost that is the biggest complaint about the different directions for storage. Currently what is the delta in cost for a TB of storage? How large do you think that delta will be over the course of the generation?
I also see you saying that the PS5 solution isn't difficult. While it isn't the most difficult thing to do it is clearly more difficult than on Xbox. It also doesn't appear to have the ability to be removed and used to transfer games to a friend's device or another device within your home unless I am mistaken. That may be another reason why that direction was chosen.
I largely agree but I'd say neither is particularly pro consumer. Both have pros and cons as you've mentioned. If you are a fan of the PlayStation you like their direction if you like Xbox you prefer theirs. Just another console war bullet point.PS5 expansion costs are going to be determined by competition in the market. Xbox expansion will be licensed products and that has always cost more. Look at Nintendo branded microSD which isn't even proprietary. If Xbox proprietary storage stays in line with non-proprietary in the coming years then that will be surprisingly great.
So yeah, there are pros and cons for each. Xbox is easier and more portable. PS5 is not difficult but not as easy as Xbox. I don't know why a PS5 SSD couldn't be used in another console for the few who will actually do that. Most people are going to plug it in and never take it out. But sure....put that as a pro for Xbox either way.
Let's be clear. None of this is a gotcha issue either way. If Xbox expansion remains expensive then people who don't want that option can always choose cold storage. But I personally do not believe proprietary options are pro consumer.
I largely agree but I'd say neither is particularly pro consumer. Both have pros and cons as you've mentioned. If you are a fan of the PlayStation you like their direction if you like Xbox you prefer theirs. Just another console war bullet point.
No there not, by not going proprietary that makes storage solutions more affordable for consumers. Which mean Consumers can purchase larger capacity SSD drives at cheaper prices overtime. Which means consumers can PURCHASE more digital content from the PSN Store which is were Sony make the bulk of there money. Digital Sales, Not hardware sales is whats important, in a year and a half Microsoft will find themselves in a situation similar to PS Vita and they cant do anything about it.
Open Market > Proprietary.
Would be great if Sony themselves would have a section on the website for this to fully clear things up.
I tend to not care whether something is proprietary if the pricing is competitive, availability is good, and there are options for capacity.PS5 expansion costs are going to be determined by competition in the market. Xbox expansion will be licensed products and that has always cost more. Look at Nintendo branded microSD which isn't even proprietary. If Xbox proprietary storage stays in line with non-proprietary in the coming years then that will be surprisingly great.
So yeah, there are pros and cons for each. Xbox is easier and more portable. PS5 is not difficult but not as easy as Xbox. I don't know why a PS5 SSD couldn't be used in another console for the few who will actually do that. Most people are going to plug it in and never take it out. But sure....put that as a pro for Xbox either way.
Let's be clear. None of this is a gotcha issue either way. If Xbox expansion remains expensive then people who don't want that option can always choose cold storage. But I personally do not believe proprietary options are pro consumer.
Your comment on twitter made you a laughing stock there. Trying to be edgy doesn't always work well, mate.
Which begs the question if you can use the expansion bay and an external drive. PS5 doesn't allow you to connect two externals. I've got a 4TB for cold storage for PS5 games and an active 4TB drive for PS4 games.
Just read the thread.
and that answer was one of the mildest, modest answer to that comment
Surely it is even faster to have it installed already though? Maybe it is cheaper not having to do so, but everyone has different value systems. Even when I can get a gigabit connection, which will hopefully be soon, I'm still going to want more storage capacity, I'm just a lazy bastard.Never going to need one. I have 1gb internet. It’s faster for me to download the game instead of installing it
PS4 gamesMy PS5 SSD has like 400GB left. What the fuck are you filling your storage up with?
You as a gamer should know that you have different options available to expand the storage. If not your just as dumb as the average consumer since that seems to be the consensus here on their intelligence.For me it is one of the great flaws of ps5, the SSD is very insufficient and there is still no real solution for this problem.
I as a gamer need at least 4 TB. 1 TB is very insufficient
You cant be serious....For me it is one of the great flaws of ps5, the SSD is very insufficient and there is still no real solution for this problem.
I as a gamer need at least 4 TB. 1 TB is very insufficient
Tell me why the answerYou cant be serious....
When availability is there, you could buy the 4TB Firecuda 530 for about $1,000 U.S. and add a heatsink or buy one for more with a heatsink included.For me it is one of the great flaws of ps5, the SSD is very insufficient and there is still no real solution for this problem.
I as a gamer need at least 4 TB. 1 TB is very insufficient
Hook up a damn external 5Tb drive if you want old games on it.Tell me why the answer
For me it is one of the great flaws of ps5, the SSD is very insufficient and there is still no real solution for this problem.
I as a gamer need at least 4 TB. 1 TB is very insufficient
When availability is there, you could buy the 4TB Firecuda 530 for about $1,000 U.S. and add a heatsink or buy one for more with a heatsink included.
Other than that, I'm going to assume at some point more 4TB drives that are compatible will eventually become available. Currently, unless you are a beta tester, then, that's something which cannot be solved yet.
I like that answer, as a gamer and from ps4 experience, I have a 4 TB hard drive and it is enough for 6 years of not having a storage problem.When availability is there, you could buy the 4TB Firecuda 530 for about $1,000 U.S. and add a heatsink or buy one for more with a heatsink included.
Other than that, I'm going to assume at some point more 4TB drives that are compatible will eventually become available. Currently, unless you are a beta tester, then, that's something which cannot be solved yet.
And the games like Demon souls and others games of Ps5? Will there be problems due to the speed of the game loading screen?Hook up a damn external 5Tb drive if you want old games on it.
How tough was that???
You wanted a $1500 console then? That's fine, but most don't so that isn't a "flaw" of the console.
Yeah, now that so many games are available on the cheap for PS4, I do thoroughly enjoy having an 8TB external drive they all fit on attached to my PS5. That's a lot of games without needing to move things about or load discs to play..etc. It's going to be a long time before we can hit such a large size, but 4.5ish TB isn't bad at all.... that is unless they start to all have file sizes like Call of Duty to access various things. It's possible that Battlefield 2042 becomes one of those.I like that answer, as a gamer and from ps4 experience, I have a 4 TB hard drive and it is enough for 6 years of not having a storage problem.
That's why Sony has to see what solution they should give, and I'm not just speaking for myself ... but millions of consumers who have it a Similar situation.
Then wait for 4TB ssd ones to come out and spend your money on that if you want more fast memory. For now order a 2TB one and swap to a 4TB later when you need it.And the games like Demon souls and others games of Ps5? Will there be problems due to the speed of the game loading screen?
I like the NVME solution better, when I am done with the PS5 I will drop the NVME in my NAS , an external USB enclosure or drop it in my PC and depending upon the ssd speed requirements for a future PS6 it may even carry over.