Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I’m sure some will appreciate your not needing to buy any NVMEs and/or XBOX expansion cards so that others can have them available to purchase. That’s right generous of you.
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Mark Cerny reveals the M.2 SSD he bought for his PS5
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Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Everyone is different, choice and options are good.
dcmk7
Banned
Exactly this, I'm in no rush for one.
Will wait for the price to drop on compatible SSD's with more storage.
Which is the beauty of being non-propietary. There are options
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MasterCornholio
Member
I wonder why Sony doing you a favour of giving your certified easy plug and play solution instead of the impossible to decipher mess of SD cards and the tons of vendors that had their alternative. The risk of buying the wrong card… nope in that case it was horrible and a reason to wish the system to fail for….
The only issue I had back then was that some brands of SD cards were really bad and prone to failure. But overall it was nice being able to upgrade the storage for cheap on my 3DS.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I get that, my point was that I do not get someone championing the proprietary XSX|S solution if they hated PS Vita’s cards, that is all.
kingkaiser
Member
Yeah, too expensive for now. Also, had a good laugh at the prices for the WD SN850 on amazon. €163 for the standard and a whooping €277 for the one with a heatsink
Yep, €114 more just for some additional aluminum...
Yep, €114 more just for some additional aluminum...
MasterCornholio
Member
I agree with you there. If they didn't like the 360s or the Vitas memory expansion options then they shouldn't like the Series one.
I’m not understanding this logic as if the 2TB is the only option available. Are y’all totally inept to the point that you can’t hit the 500GB or 1TB options on the websites?! If you wanted 2TB on the Series X you would have to buy two separate proprietary cards that cost what, almost the same price as a Series X. I’m totally not fucking getting it
Rocco Schiavone
Member
kingkaiser
Member
Man, the current console generation truly makes me feel nostalgic. Just remembered how I paid 50 bucks for an 8MB memory card back in 2001. 
yurinka
Member
Yes, Ferraris are very expensive. But you don't need to buy a Ferrari. There are smaller and cheaper SSD options to put on this drive, and over time will be way cheaper. Until then, I think it is ok to don't buy extra storage.
Blond
Banned
What size is 700 AUD?
Melchiah
Member
I have 10 games (Astro, DS, FFVII, HZD, Days Gone, Plague Tale, Detroit, Concrete Genie, Remnant: FTA, and SW: Squadrons) installed, and there's still 180GB space left.
Who the hell needs more? Are you really going to play more than 10 games simultaneously?
MasterCornholio
Member
I was looking at compatible 500GBs NVMEs and they cost around 100$. Which is pretty reasonable if you don't need a ton of extra storage.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Samsung 980 Pro is better
Klayzer
Member
Just a long winded way of saying he prefers the propietary/more expensive options for reasons....
fersnake
Member
and yet ppl cry about its too hard and comparing to building a house
MasterCornholio
Member
and yet ppl cry about its too hard and comparing to building a house
That comparison was really dumb IMO.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
The WD Black SN850 is based on 16nm process. Samsung 980 Pro is based on 8nm so potentially cooler with a heatsink. Will get the latter even though it costs a little more.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Trying to figure out how to put and power a mini fan on or near the Aorus 7000....
PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
The the one Dana Carvey recommended in the OP doesn't have a heat sink?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
It does but 980 pro doesn't so you need to buy one
ELUTENG M.2 SSD Heatsink 2 Pack Cooler Double-Sided, M2 2280 SSD Heatsink Alloy Aluminum M2 NGFF NVME Heatsink Radiator Set with 4 Thermal Silicone Pad for M.2 PCIE NVME SSD or M.2 SATA SSD, Black : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 - Samsung (amazon.co.uk)
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PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
So can i buy a card now and pop it in or would i need to wait for official firmware release since i dont trust alphas?
Skifi28
Member
Depends, do you trust betas?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
I'm waiting so no hurry until the firmware is released. I put links above. Worth taking a punt as per euro gamer Best SSD for PS5 2021 • Eurogamer.net
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PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
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Werewolfgrandma
Banned
The sn850 is equal or better in pretty much every test.
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Switched to 8gb test and much closer to advertised
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Skifi28
Member
How about final firmware that is actually a beta in disguise?
kyliethicc
Member
The SN850 can be bought with or without a heatsink. 2 models.
Cerny went with the heatsink model.
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
I'm just waiting for the dust to settle. The price and availability of high end NVMe drives have gone bananas.
Besides, I thought the capacity of the PS5 would be an issue but right now I have Ghost of Tsushima, Judgement, Chivalry 2, and the FFVII Remake installed, as well as a slew of media apps, and still have 413GB left. So I can wait a long time before I'll feel the need to expand, if ever.
Besides, I thought the capacity of the PS5 would be an issue but right now I have Ghost of Tsushima, Judgement, Chivalry 2, and the FFVII Remake installed, as well as a slew of media apps, and still have 413GB left. So I can wait a long time before I'll feel the need to expand, if ever.
kingfey
Banned
Different is, dumb people knows how to plug in on xbox, compared to the ps5.
People think here, everyone is too smart. Like its easy to takeout the ps5, and plug in the sd card.
Guess what? People are fucking stupid. Hell, I am too confused about these shit SD card names, To a point, I am not even bothering changing my pc storage.
I will go with the easy plug in deal, which i can take it out easily, and plug in on another friends xbox console.
sendit
Member
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Why does the PS Vita memory card get brought up so often? Didn't the X360 ,Xbox, PS2, N64, and GameCube have memory cards too? Were there similar complaints about those systems like we have with X Series? I always thought consoles traditionally were all about ease and plug and play. Did something change I wasn't aware of?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Thanks mate, I’ve gone ahead and ordered both today before they sell out.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
If you put the SSD in now the console will just complain that it doesn’t work with the drive attached. So buy it but don’t fit it yet until you either get a beta invite or the firmware is release officially.
coffinbirth
Member
All of those consoles listed used memory cards for game saves not for actual game storage(I think you could put XBLA games on mem cards, but cmon)whereas the majority of the Vitas library was digital only, and the proprietary storage was shamefully overpriced. This was a contributing factor in its demise. Lets not go into having to import the...
People complaining about the Series X/S storage solution likely don't own one. I do, and it's a pretty seamless thing that I haven't had to think about since launch. What is there to complain about? Price? Having the ability to EASILY remove it and take with you to a friends house...or upstairs to another Series console or whatever is low key a pretty good feature, and IMO, warrants the need for the proprietary shell.
Here's another thing I'd like to add that is kinda on-topic, the fact that you can remove the Xbox Series X/S Internal drive, clone it to another drive, and use said drive. Not terribly useful yet(unless you are doing repairs) but in the future when 2TB and up drives in this form factor start becoming available, you have upgrade options there as well.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
The cost of GCN and PS2 cards was not immense and they were used only for save game data. Even on PS2 there were plenty of cheap ones.
Xbox 360 was the time where one of the vendors figured out you could add a standard HDD in a proprietary enclosure and charge a premium for it and no not everyone was happy (the software output, the initial UI, Xbox LIVE, and the impact it had for the first two years on the market were just SO SO big that people swallowed that and other issues like RRoD mostly) . Same thing for the expensive WIFi adaptor and HDMI well the launch machine had no HDMI output.
The PS Vita anti hype machine focused on the memory cards, including some bullshit benchmarks using the transfer to PC and back feature and the cost of the cards. Proprietary vs open was a big deal there.
kingfey
Banned
Topher
Gold Member
Yes, something did change. Consoles started using internal storage for more than just game saves. They started installing games, movies, and music as well. Vita was notorious because the cost of the proprietary storage was far more than standard microSD.
And yes, consoles have always been about ease and plug and play. This is no different. People are trying to make it out like this is difficult when it really isn't.
You’re not going to need to worry about a 5year warranty for either, the stop gap replacements will come faster and dwarf the Series X and PS5.+ 5 Year Warranty
MasterCornholio
Member
Well you could probably use the NVME in the PS5 Pro. That's where the warranty could come in handy.
It won’t matter, is what I’m saying, these drives won’t be fast enough.
kyliethicc
Member
I doubt there will be a mid-gen refresh with a big spec bump like PS4 Pro & One X. Would cost too much, among other reasons.
They wouldn't increase the drive speed for a PS5 Pro by much, if at all. No point really.
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I think I'm going to buy the 2TB SN850 later this year.
Hopefully I will be able to find a deal around 400€, 500-550€ is just too much for the benefits.
I see that the SN850 has a RGB LED, obviously on PS5 such feature is useless but is there a model with the heatsink but no RGB LED?
Hopefully I will be able to find a deal around 400€, 500-550€ is just too much for the benefits.
I see that the SN850 has a RGB LED, obviously on PS5 such feature is useless but is there a model with the heatsink but no RGB LED?
MasterCornholio
Member
Those games will still have to work on the PS5 so they will he fast enough. Now if you meant the PS6 then that can be a different story. But I doubt we will get a PS6 within 5 years.