That has already been cleared up 17% is for both platforms. So Series S/X and Xbox one combined as it is one SKU. 83% is PS4/PS5. We do however have the split for that since it's two SKUs 57% PS5 31% PS4.
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Outriders retails at 17% in UK on Xbox (due to being free to all XGPU subscribers), PlayStation 4/5 has 83% of retail sales
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The Hamburglar
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Haters gona hate lol.. I'm enjoying it playing on gamepass on sony platform you're forced to buy it soyou guys want a fucking cookie or something with the daily bashing gamepass threads.
Where are these daily game pass bashing threads? Instead I can show you many daily game pass is awesome threads.
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Well it shows how big gamepass can be for users. They can access and play the game for a monthly fee and access to more than 100 more so why would they not use it
FatKingBallman
Banned
No I'm saying if he believes there is a discrepancy between platforms in digital vs retail sales the burden of proof is on that person.So you're saying your assumption is right and his is wrong right? Lol
You guys are going to keep me entertained at work all day today, aren't you?
It would be like saying amazon had 83% PS5 sales and 17% xbox series s/x. You don't then suggest that there will be more buyers at walmart and therefore amazon data is useless unless you know that there is something favoring one platform on amazon and that discrepancy does not exist as far as I know. In fact there is clear evidence that it doesn't.
I'm glad to see you're so easily entertained by the most mundane things.
Ogbert
Member
I genuinely don’t get it.
Are people seriously trying to say it’s a bad thing a fun game is on Gamepass?
Nobody is saying this as far as I can see. This is more salesGAF discussing gamepass and evidence of retail sales mixed with the usual crazies trying to make this about wars.
Game is crossplay so you will get total active player counts.
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El_Cinefilo
Member
To be honest I'm surprised it's as high as that on Xbox. It's a new IP and even if you're not a game pass subscriber and wanted to play it you could just sign up for a month (For £1 if you haven't before?) to see if you like it. It's a Square Enix game so it'll probably be heavily discounted to buy when your month is up if you still want it and don't want to keep GP. I just don't really see any reason to buy it yet on XBox.
Calverz
Member
Wow u must actually be 9 years old.
Calverz
Member
Go ahead and spend $70 to play it then. And then spend $70 next month to play MLB. Whereas il play both for free
Sevenfold
Member
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Xbox is following PC's path and moving towards all-digital. Though I presume it has been more into digital for a long time?
Though I wonder how many new Game Pass subscribers did Outriders bring.
Though I wonder how many new Game Pass subscribers did Outriders bring.
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UK data is retail. Retail includes online orders. Digital splits don't differ in any significant way by platform (except PC). All third party and platform holders shared similar figures of ~52% digital not long ago but this has gone up significantly this year (i think near 75%). It does not differ by platform though so it is safe to assume approximately the same percentages on the digital stores.
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KingT731
Member
So you're saying some people, who were already going to buy the game, purchased it because of Game Pass? The pre-orders for Outriders on Steam were doing very well before the announcement of the game going to Game Pass(only on X-Box Consoles).
Riky
$MSFT
Without figures means nothing, also as with Hitman 3 there is a deal with this game to buy digital and get £5 of reward points so it makes more sense for Xbox owners to buy digitally.
MasterCornholio
Member
I think which option is better probably depends on how many copies they sell and at what price. It's definitely possible for them to obtain more profit selling copies of the game just like it's possible that gamepass can give them a greater income.
But the truth is without knowing how gamepass really works it's difficult to find that out.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Then I am confused what retail implies there. I always thought that retail means third party sellers.
I gave you figures they gave percentages not long ago. you're the one making assumptions without any. The game is £55 at retail and £60 on the xbox store. Shows me you are just using confirmation bias to try and prove why this will be a higher percentage digitally and don't actually know anything.
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Concern
Member
So mundane, yet we're almost at 500 posts spinning how a game being on Gamepass is bad lol. If it was on Psnow or plus, it'd the best thing ever. Just like crossgen games were soooo bad till Horizon, Spiderman MM, etc were announced as crossgen games right?
Show me where I said it's bad?
You're the one with 2000+ messages from only joining in September of last year and all you do is post war fodder. Get out of here with this " I find this entertaining" but provide nothing but war shit posts constantly.
GHG
Member
You would think that as many people as possible signing up and using gamepass would be a good thing but apparently not, everyone must "make the most" of their subscription in accordance with the Xbox Gamepass code of conduct.
I do wonder, where was this level of upset and concern whenever I've said I use my EA play and Ubisoft+ subs in exactly the same way?
Hey, maybe if more of you shared the approach that I do then Phil Spencer's statement that gamepass leads to more people buying games would actually be true. But I get it, it must be hard being so conflicted when on one hand you want to constantly brag about using exploits and loopholes to extend your subscription to "the best deal in gaming" along with "cheap/free" games, while on the other hand not wanting to make your messiah look like an idiot because contrary to what he claims very few of you are actually purchasing games anymore as a result.
Silent Viper
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You are a 9 year old warrior? Im talking about your profile description.
Go check MS financial earnings.
Last earnings report-
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Revenue from its personal computing division, which includes Windows software and Xbox gaming consoles, rose 14% to $15.1 billion, driven by strong Xbox content and services growth, beating analysts' estimates of $13.5 billion, according to IBES data from Refinitiv.
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Next time don't post nonsense when you dont know jack. You not talking to kids here. Do some research before posting.
UK sales data shows physical only within Uk not worldwide
Majority of gamers buy digitally. SE got money from MS as well via game pass deal and other digital and retail sales on Xbox and pc.
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Concern
Member
"War shit posts"?
You're seriously lacking self awareness with the trash you post lol. But nice just job changing the subject to try attacking me.
And where did I specifically say "you" said it was bad? Guilty conscious I guess lol.
Thirty7ven
Banned
It will be more interesting to see the attach ratio and overall software sales. How well games outside of Gamepass do is more relevant data.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Phil Spencer: Game Pass leads to more game sales
This past weekend's X018 event was, arguably, a two-hour long advertisement for Game Pass, and given what Microsoft gam…www.gamesindustry.biz
Hezekiah
Banned
Yeah although for now Microsoft is eating the cost which is probably why you're not hearing too many complaints about it.It's a small sample size so far in terms of sales but over the next year a trend will start to emerge.
If the majority sentiment that exists here also applies to the general populous of gamepass subscribers then the results won't end up being any different to what we have with this game:
Game Pass users: Do you buy the games afterwards to support the devs?
I bought Halo MCC on Steam despite having it on Game Pass because i want to have it on Steam and give extra support for bringing one of my favorite franchises to PC. Also thinking of doing the same with Gears 5 since Steam has it on sale now. Have you bought any games from Game Pass since...www.neogaf.com
FatKingBallman
Banned
This is GFK sales data. GSD sales data, ( which also include digital sales) whose data gameindustry.biz reports often, i think on monthly basis. Alongside with GFK data. Like this one
PC and console games sales surged across Europe in February | EMEAA Charts
www.gamesindustry.biz
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xrnzaaas
Member
I think that the Xbox percentage sounds about right. There are some people who don't care about Game Pass, don't care about how much they're spending on games or they simply want the game in their collection. But yeah, for me playing in Game Pass and skipping a normal purchase (even when it's discounted) would be the way to go.
Arun1910
Member
People are fucking weird.
You don't have to be on GP to see its great value for money. I don't have it as it isn't for me but you honestly have to be blind to see that it's not a great service.
Compared to PS Now, PS Now is a pile of shit. I had a look yesterday to see if it was worth getting for my PS5 and there's absolutely nothing of interest there.
If I did gave GP I'd be taking advantage of all these new Games on Day 1 just for the sake of trying it. For Devs it is great exposure.
I'm surprised they even have as many sales as they do on Xbox given its on GP.
I'm not sure why people act like these sales and GP are bad because there is absolutely no way Outriders would have the same influx of players if it wasn't on there
Self awareness sure is lacking in you.
Want to rewind and see how this started in a TLDR version just for you?
Me: "digital percentage splits do not differ from retail unless there is a discrepancy I'm not aware of."
You jumping in: "so you're saying your assumption is right and his wrong. You guys are entertaining."
Me: "no I'm saying that there is no proof that a difference in splits in digital exists and that usually they are identical.
Glad you find the mundane things entertaining."
You: "500 posts spinning how a game being on Gamepass is bad lol. If it was on Psnow or plus, it'd the best thing ever.Just like crossgen games were soooo bad till Horizon, Spiderman MM, etc were announced as crossgen games right?"
If you honestly think I'm the one changing the subject and war shitposting I say you go visit someone about your lack of self awareness.
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Schmick
Member
Is the OP trying to say that subscription is bad?
Sorry you are talking to the wrong person I subscribe to the following;
Amazon Prime
Disney Plus
Netflix
Now TV
Amazon Music
Game Pass Ultimate
PSN for PC
And I still also buy movies and games too.
Of course I'm just one person but I'm pretty confident i represent the typical modern day man with a family.
Good to have options isn't it.
Sorry you are talking to the wrong person I subscribe to the following;
Amazon Prime
Disney Plus
Netflix
Now TV
Amazon Music
Game Pass Ultimate
PSN for PC
And I still also buy movies and games too.
Of course I'm just one person but I'm pretty confident i represent the typical modern day man with a family.
Good to have options isn't it.
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dcmk7
Banned
The guy is a proven div. Wouldn't engage him, any thoughtful post directed at him is usually met with a LOL gif.
2000+ posts in that span of time
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Silent Viper
Banned
Its not worldwide though and article says retail only.
And Why subscription sales compared to one time retail sales anyway?
Do people compare HBO max version earnings of Snyder cut or Godzilla with theater release? So why compare Game pass vs Uk sales lol
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Neo Blaster
Member
You seem to care a lot about profit in another post about Netflix, just make up your mind!!!
Silent Viper
Banned
One guy was saying that devs need retail sales to fund AAA development implying that MS can't fund AAA games anymore since they only release games through subscription lol.
So by that logic WB,Disney, Netflix nd all can't fund big budget movies lol
ZehDon
Gold Member
Let them; I'm saving a stupid amount of money and Microsoft are footing the bill. If the service crumbles two years from now, oh well - I saved a shit tonne of money and enjoyed some pretty amazing games.
Riky
$MSFT
You don't know the figures, Gamepass will change the figures for starters. Millions will try the game with their subscription and we don't know what percentage of that unknown figure will buy the game when it leaves Gamepass and I would bet almost all those sales down the road will be digital.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Just guessing.
Schmick
Member
This. I'm enjoying the ride (GP and PSN). Whether it lasts only years or an eternity.
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Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Concern
Member
Glad you left out the 500 posts part being in reply to you calling it "mudane" lol. You guys are way too invested in this. This is why its pure entertainment.
But nice try there. War on soldier, keep me entertained with more of your hot takes
SoloKingRobert
Banned
This is for Retail sales, it doesn't count Digital sales. Outriders is only available digital on Xbox Game Pass, not physical. Xbox gamers can get 20% off discount on games via Game Pass.
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DaGwaphics
Member
Again though, they may never match Netflix subscriber numbers since gaming is more niche, but they also don't have to. MS will never spend 17b a year in first-party development. LOL
Costs will be much lower for GP.