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Outriders retails at 17% in UK on Xbox (due to being free to all XGPU subscribers), PlayStation 4/5 has 83% of retail sales
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TheDreadLord
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You can always buy the game at a later stage, possibly heavily discounted. And your comparison does not make sense since you should compare PS+ with Live Gold which does the same plus the benefit of all 360 games actually being yours, even if you stop paying for the service.
Stuart360
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Its not really hard to see why games being on Gamepass could help sales on other platfroms.
Take someone with Gamepass 'oh this Outriders game, yeah i heard about this, lets download it', he plays and likes the game, 'hey jimmy bud, just played this awesome game called Outriders, yuo can even play through it co-op. I think you would love it. Buy it on PS4/5 so we can play together!'
Its probably exaggerrated how much effect this would have, but its pretty obvious this will be going on. You have to remember the majority of gamers are not spending half their lives on forums and game news sites, and no every little thing about every game.
Take someone with Gamepass 'oh this Outriders game, yeah i heard about this, lets download it', he plays and likes the game, 'hey jimmy bud, just played this awesome game called Outriders, yuo can even play through it co-op. I think you would love it. Buy it on PS4/5 so we can play together!'
Its probably exaggerrated how much effect this would have, but its pretty obvious this will be going on. You have to remember the majority of gamers are not spending half their lives on forums and game news sites, and no every little thing about every game.
The people who buy next gen consoles at launch are the people who will buy the new games at launch. Sony are doing a good job of moving people on to PS5. The majority of enthusiast launch day game buyers have upgraded to PS5 already.
martino
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of course imo a big budget game with marketing doesn't need day one gamepass.(if you are not MS and pushing your service with them of course)
I suspect nature of the game here helped but preorder also should have been far form SE objectives.(and we known how big they can be)
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Aguero9320
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I can’t get over how stupid this thread, and debate is.
It’s based on percentages. At retail. In the UK. Might have sold 50 copies in total
The desperation is definitely top of the charts though, that much is certain. “Ouch”.
It’s based on percentages. At retail. In the UK. Might have sold 50 copies in total
The desperation is definitely top of the charts though, that much is certain. “Ouch”.
Starcheif
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If I try a game on Game Pass and love it I'll purchase it (Guacamelee 1 and 2 etc).
Stuart360
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Yep the game only hit no.6, which is very telling for the UK. We are probably talking 50-60k sales, maybe even less.I can’t get over how stupid this thread, and debate is.
It’s based on percentages. At retail. In the UK. Might have sold 50 copies in total
The desperation is definitely top of the charts though, that much is certain. “Ouch”.
Dont know if its salty PS users annoyed about the Gamepass deal, or just the vast majority are buying digital. It certainly seems to not be the smash hit it is on PC for some reason.
Monkeygourmet
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Microsoft desperately wants to get out of the HW market and into streaming it’s hilarious.
They can’t wait for Game “I’ll suck your dick for a cheese burger” Pass and streaming to become viable so they can stop the need to make hardware and exclusives
They can’t wait for Game “I’ll suck your dick for a cheese burger” Pass and streaming to become viable so they can stop the need to make hardware and exclusives
Avian_Grubber
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Heart goes out to the PlayStation owners that were forced to pay full price.
I imagine it will be a similar result for MLB too.
I imagine it will be a similar result for MLB too.
Aguero9320
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I saw someone on Twitter say it was less than 10k, but we have no idea. Realise that and you’re halfway to realising this thread is utter nonsense. You get the other half by reading it
Digital is massive on all platforms, GamePass is massive on Xbox, UK retail is not at all massive. SMH. PlayStation figure actually seems low as a percentage given GamePass, and if it’s a percentage of less than 10k well...
Stuart360
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Yes thats why they just launched not one, but two new consoles. Gamepass is a download service, you need hardware for the games. Streaming is more the future, and every one will be doing streaming, make no mistake about that.
Monkeygourmet
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2 new consoles which seem like an after thought with little to no new exclusive content for about 2 / 3 years into their launch when streaming is pretty much viable - yes
smooth move, ex lax
Rhazer Fusion
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I’m not even remotely surprised by the numbers. PlayStation games usually sell better, but I’m sure Gamepass was a huge contributing factor as well. I still don’t believe Gamepass isn’t affecting sales numbers of software on XBOX.
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Believe it or not, people who play on Xbox can be friends with people who play on PS. PS gamers can also read posts made by Xbox gamers.So....the word of mouth of Xbox users increases sales on other platforms. Okay....
Because thats the only thing that might make some kind of sense right now.
Stuart360
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Well that must be the same for PS5 then as it launched with exactly 2 more exclusive games, and one of them was Spiderman dlc. Both XSX and PS5 have exclusive games coming this year.
In fact The Medium already launched, which means XSX and PS5 have had exactly one next gen only game at this moment in time.
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Monkeygourmet
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Don’t kid yourself - you know full well MS won’t have a meaningful exclusive till about year 2 / 3 into the series X life.
In case it’s escaped your radar, all they talk about is Gamepass and Retro which roughly translates to their being squat in the near future
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Stuart360
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The Ascent is launching in June, and looks better than pretty much anything on any next gen console so far.
retsof624
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I’ve done the same with a Few games
No one is saying that Game Pass is increasing sales of PS or Switch (not sure where Switch came from since Outriders isn't on it) consoles. Game Pass is helping increase sales of Outriders on PS and PC thanks to the increased visibility that Game Pass has created. People are forgetting that this game was getting next to 0 buzz, at least from console gamers.
GHG
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Dirt 5 is a perfect example of where I personally find this service to be valuable, it was a game I was interested in trying at some point and the service saved me from buying that crap.
And I think that's my point, everyone uses the service differently. There's no wrong or right way to use it and I don't understand why so many people who swear by it choose to chastise those who still buy games despite being subscribers. Overall people still purchasing games is healthy for the industry.
Personally I use it as a demo/discovery service to confirm whether games I'm interested in or like the look of are worth buying or not. It's saved me from buying games I didn't like such as Dirt 5 and Greedfall but on the other hand it's resulted in me trying and then purchasing far more games than I would have if not for the service. Back in the day I used to buy magazines just for the demo disks for the exact same reason, and since demos are now few and far between this is the perfect replacement for me. It's even a similar price (inflation adjusted).
The majority buying digital or not would again be a percentage unless you are saying there is some discrepancy with digital sales between platforms. There is none that I'm aware of. If you are calling the game a failure in the UK in general that again is another thing but I really don't get where you are going with this. It's as if you are finding it hard to accept that sales are lower on xbox because of gamepass or otherwise.
Monkeygourmet
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Ahhhh yes, that “system seller”, Ascent.
How many physical consoles will that gem shift? It’s prime streaming / game pass fodder just what they want for the future. A console isn’t needed for this type of title
Umbasaborne
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I have a rock hard erection right now, because i just read that this game sold BEST on MY favorite console! Do you hear that guys? WE WON! Awesome, im high fiving all of you right now over this news! Fuck the xbox!!!!
Obviously im kidding, but celebrating a game selling best on your favorite box seems weird. Like, okay, are you getting a cut of the profits? Did you make a bet? Do you just hope and pray that any future installments are cancelled for the competing platform so you can have more ammo for the war? Whats the goal?
Obviously im kidding, but celebrating a game selling best on your favorite box seems weird. Like, okay, are you getting a cut of the profits? Did you make a bet? Do you just hope and pray that any future installments are cancelled for the competing platform so you can have more ammo for the war? Whats the goal?
GHG
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Look at the steam reviews. The servers don't function correctly.
Well at least on PC you can get a refund if you went ahead and bought it. Some people liked what they played based on the demo so they went ahead and bought it only to be disappointed by the server instability.
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SLB1904
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lets just not get ahead of ourselves here lmfao
Iced Arcade
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Honestly sale number comparisons are completely useless now. Literally pointless.
All that matters is devs are getting paid from multiple avenues/methods and we continue to get games.
All that matters is devs are getting paid from multiple avenues/methods and we continue to get games.
FatKingBallman
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Outriders didn't came out on Switch, but your original post surely implies that Gamepass increase sales on all platforms. LOL. There is an available Outriders demo, Gamepass has nothing to do with pushing more sales on PS4/PS5. LOL. Nice spin, though. PS4 and X1 exists before Gamepass, so, even then there were huge sales split in bunch of games.
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Stuart360
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Ah still stuck in the 'console sales' mentality, thats so 2013. If its perfect Gamepass fodder, and you dont need a console for it, how are Gamepass users supposed to play it?
Anyway Gamepass is not going to get you in your sleep, trust me.
Mr Moose
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Me, with my copy of Cyberpunk
dcmk7
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You've said this about 5 times in this thread already.I can’t get over how stupid this thread, and debate is.
It’s based on percentages. At retail. In the UK. Might have sold 50 copies in total
The desperation is definitely top of the charts though, that much is certain. “Ouch”.
We get it. You're very triggered by the mere mention of any sort of negative sales stories regarding an Xbox box game. And you want everyone to be as outraged as you.
But get over it already. Enjoy the 'free' game.
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Stuart360
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Quite the opposite, i expected the differnce to be larger. All this shows me is that there are still a lot of Xbox users that dont have Gamepass.
Aguero9320
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Yep, and I’ll say it again. Thread is moronic. Embarrassing. Nonsensical. Desperate. Cringeworthy.
Have some self respect, fanboys!
FatKingBallman
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In fact, PS5 also have Astro, Godfall, Destruction All Stars as next-gen games too.
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dcmk7
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Stuart360
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Yeah its got server problems no doubt. I'm not sure what thats got to do with sales. There were 129k ingame on Steam this morning, thats a lot for a medium hyped game on Steam. Its also been no.1 in sales for the past 2 weeks, and hasnt left the top 10 since pre-orders went up 2 or 3 months ago (barring flash sales on certain games).
Dude what are you talking about?... My original post implies that Game Pass increased Outriders sales on the Switch? The game isn't even on Switch... My post is obviously talking about all the platforms that Outriders is on. It's kinda scary that that had to be explained to you.
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balls of snow
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Good. Grow gamepass, we getting a lot more AAA day and date bois.
dcmk7
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It's undoubtedly a fun game when playing in a party.
But it's not at all a triple AAA title, no need to exaggerate.
Stuart360
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??? It looks as good as anything i have seen on 'next gen' so far
Its also been one of my most wanted games since first announced.
FatKingBallman
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It's OK. Switch or not, you said across all platforms. of course, someone ( like me ) would think on Switch too. Btw. there is available demo across all platforms ( where it is available ), so, Gamepass has nothing to do with it. PS4 and X1 exists before Gamepass and PS4 had bigger sales split in bunch of games. So, GamePass has nothing to do with bigger sales on PS platform.
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Sir Vilhelm
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MS killing it with gamepass, sorry to all the salty salt in this thread.
balls of snow
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Is MLB the Show considered AAA then?
Potato Chip PRO
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Paying $70 on this is highway robbery lol. The game will be on Gamepass for awhile and once it's gone, folks will have the option to buy it at a discount before it's removed. All this fake concern and butthurtness that GPass is causing is giving me a good laugh. Do the MLB UK sales percenatge in a few weeks while you're at it OP.
dcmk7
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FatKingBallman
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Btw. if you didn't know, in last 10 years, MLB never did an impact in UK. Even a small blip in sales. Always MLB had a good sales in US, of course.
Mr.NiceGuy
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I'm busy right now so I can't reply to other amazing takes in this thread but I'll spare couple of minutes for you.
Genius, 17% is for both XBox one and Series consoles. Outriders have 1 sku on XBox as opposed to PlayStation which has 2. The percentage for PS5 against the Series X/S consoles is even bigger, and this is just about 6 months after the launch of the new consoles, who can tell how much the split will be bigger once the gap between consoles becomes bigger with time.
BTW I don't give a fuck about this game, I'm not interested in another MTX/GAAS generic hamfisted game. And I'm only talking about the percentage of sales on retail, in one country only. This is not an evidance that this game had amazing sales, if anything debuting on number 6 is not good. I just wanted to cast doubts to the notion that GamePass magically makes all the games on the platform including big budget games from 3rd parties sell more, anyone with brains would see that is not logical. Indies and obscure games and GAAS sure they can make great use of the service but don't tell we will see games like Final Fantasy or Call of Duty day 1 on such a service without serious heavy money bags from Microsoft.
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