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Dirt 5: Digital Foundry Console Comparison - PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X/Series S + Performance - Every Game Mode Tested

Dr Bass

Member
The most annoying this in this comparison is hearing "Once more people have a VRR display, these frame drops issues will be irrelevant".
Splashing 500 bucks on these boxes that have the 8k and 120Hz logos on them isn't enough, we also all need an OLed CX with VRR? Please. There's noe excuse for missing dynamic 4k/60 in these early games, my One X was doing it in almost every game.
Clearly Xbox suffers from a non hardware related issue. DF is calling it a "bug" that is being addressed by the devs but that's a ot of games from different devs being affected and it's only so long until a perception starts to be created and maybe sticks. Xbox's management has to put out a statement about the state of their tools and the support and time that 3rd party devs had available for launch games. There's a pandemic so the public can understand.
The only reassuring thing at the moment is that first party games on the XSX have looked much better than their 3rd party counterpart. Gears 5, Halo MCC, Sea of Thieves, Ori have shown great performance. There's no reason why Dirt 5 (also cross-gen) shouldn't be able to. Very curious.

Those are all old gen games and Ori runs well on the Switch at 1080.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
That patch is already on Xbox for days.
DF foundry comparison uses the patch for both consoles.

It is the 1.04 patch..


I'm still not convinced these titles are on the same patch. My version says 1.02 in the info screen and not 1.04.
 
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ethomaz

Banned
I'm still not convinced these titles are on the same patch. My version says 1.02 in the info screen and not 1.04.
Can you check the in game achievement “Spare Some Change for Gas?”?... if it needs 1000 miles it is the new patch if it is 10000 miles it is old patch.

Edit - Steam already has patch 1.04 too... the achievement shows 1000 miles.
 
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Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Can you check the in game achievement “Spare Some Change for Gas?”?... if it needs 1000 miles it is the new patch if it is 10000 miles it is old patch.

Edit - Steam already has patch 1.04 too... the achievement shows 1000 miles.
I'll take a look.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I WON THIS CONSOLE WAR, BY A LOT!

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FranXico

Member
Apparently XSX version is getting patched in to address the issues brought up by DF. Perhaps this patch would make the game run 50% better than the PS5?

:pie_roffles:
It will look the same as the PS5 version. Doesn't mean anything will change about resolution or framerate.
 
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GenericUser

Member
Dirt 5 does not look very impressive tbh. I have no doubt the new Xbox can handle the game just as well as the PS5. Must be a dev mistake or something. Nothing to worry about.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Why is this thread still on going? Didn't the tech director apologised for letting the bug through, a fix is coming, all's well soon. :messenger_smiling_with_eyes:

Can we keep it going until then?

On a serious note, though, they chose to select lower graphic settings. I don't believe that's a 'bug'. More importantly, if they 'fix' it and add high graphics settings as they are on the PS5, it will likely affect the frame rates.

Unless XSX is running at 140-150 FPS currently in the 120 Hz mode, I suspect frame rate problems after the new settings.
 
Objective comment from.. **checks notes** .."Mr.PlayStation".

I just find it amusing when people tried to have the narrative that one is way way better than the other. Meanwhile all along it's that both have been near identical in the real world performance. People with either consoles are getting a premium experience!
 
I just find it amusing when people tried to have the narrative that one is way way better than the other. Meanwhile all along it's that both have been near identical in the real world performance. People with either consoles are getting a premium experience!

I agree 💯. Both consoles are great. Folks war for no good reason. Human nature mixed with poor mental acuity.
 

Yoboman

Member
Devs should just start giving us PC style graphical settings to let us find our own optimal balance of performance and visuals

We are already doing half baked compromises between the two already. Maybe I want to keep the highest end car models and 120 fps but resolution is less important. Or maybe I want full 4k and 120 fps but will drop the detail
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.
 

Topher

Gold Member
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.

Good grief. Look....this stuff is fun to talk about and debate, but what the hell with this shit? Sucks you have to put up with this insanity. Your hard work is appreciated.
 

Caio

Member
Can we keep it going until then?

On a serious note, though, they chose to select lower graphic settings. I don't believe that's a 'bug'. More importantly, if they 'fix' it and add high graphics settings as they are on the PS5, it will likely affect the frame rates.

Unless XSX is running at 140-150 FPS currently in the 120 Hz mode, I suspect frame rate problems after the new settings.

The only way to have the XBox version like the PS5 is to downdgrade the PS5 version. And I still can't belive this thread keeps going on.
Come on guys move one :D
 

Riky

$MSFT
The only way to have the XBox version like the PS5 is to downdgrade the PS5 version. And I still can't belive this thread keeps going on.
Come on guys move one :D

Not according to the Devs who have apologized on Twitter, it's just a bug like DF said it was. I think I'll take the Devs word for it.
 

anothertech

Member
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.
John, you do gods work. Thank you for your sacrifice.
 

Cherrypepsi

Member
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.

<3
Stay safe out there
Don't change the way you do your work because of some lunatics
 

Riky

$MSFT
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.

You're doing great work and PS and Xbox gamers should be grateful, you've already got the 120fps issue on PS5 DMC5 sorted and now the Dirt 5 Devs are fixing the Xbox 120fps mode and it's down to you guys.

You are literally helping game development, just block the idiots.
 

Radical_3d

Member
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.
Man, this is just sad. Thank you for keep doing a great job and please ignore the maniacs.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.

The harassment is shameful and I have no words to describe the people who are crazy enough to go looking for your home addreess and harass you at home. That's absolutely despicable.

I hope that the number of people of people who do appreciate your hard work will drown out the crazies. I absolutely oved your recent videos about the development of Ori for the Switch and Demon's Souls. Those were terrific. I'd love to see more of those.
 
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.
John mate keep up the work and tell it how it is, ignore these Internet warriors, they are all talk.

its a shame you need to word things carefully to not trigger fanboys, but keep up the work dude.
 

longdi

Banned
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.

As much as we love to cheer our favoured boxes, I believe no gaffers are crazy enough to send threats online or physically to your home.

Damn those harrasors are insane, you should make a police report just to keep it on records, at least for the physical threats.
 

Riky

$MSFT
Its actually quite sad that you got nothing left but taking people's words. You took lot of words so it seems. Started with taking Phli's words.

Very sad, Dev says it's a bug apologizes and says it will be fixed, not good enough for you because it won't give your console the "win" anymore. Grow up.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Very sad, Dev says it's a bug apologizes and says it will be fixed, not good enough for you because it won't give your console the "win" anymore. Grow up.

I think it's fair to speculate about the frame rate hit the XSX version may take once higher graphic settings are deployed.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
The only way to have the XBox version like the PS5 is to downdgrade the PS5 version.

I was afraid of this, but recent tweets from the devs don't indicate a PS5 downgrade.

My conern is the frame rates on XSX. It's important to note that XSX wasn't hitting 120 FPS well at all in the beginning. Devs had to turn off V-Sync via a patch, so XSX could hit 120FPS. So it's already at the brink. V-Sync can affect FPS up to 10-20%. Higher settings will do it more.

Interestingly, the PS5 version still has V-Sync; XSX doesn't have it anymore.
 
I'm coming in here for one time to make this very important note. I'm being very careful with my words when discussing these things in videos. Do you know how much shit I've put up with after it turns out Xbox is massively underperforming?! Constant threats, harassment and even shit sent to my god damn house. All over these stupid plastic boxes. These people are insane and it's absolutely draining me. Now we have the opposite in this due to 'wording' that people read into. Just stop it.

Please just take the results as is. The data is there, it's clear to see.

Back to signing off.

The console warring can get pretty crazy especially with these comparison videos. You might not see this message but I appreciate your work the most. Thank you for making the analysis and I'm sorry about what you're going through now.
 
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