thugstools vs professionaltools
Imagine if Series X had this big a lead in graphical detail, with better performance and less tearing as well...
Richard: It's pretty extraordinary really....Yes the uptick we expected was about 20%, but this is way beyond that ballpark....This is almost a generational leap for the Series X over the PS5....Microsoft has really delivered on the promise of the most powerful machine here......It's really transformational....
It only has a frame rate advantage in 120fps mode and that is mainly because the graphics are severely downgraded in that mode compared to PS5 version.
No it does not......PS5 has significantly better settings and performs better in 120Hz mode too.....DF says the game feels better with VRR on XBOX. They are actually using VRR to say "that the odd times on one track where the PS5 drops some frames at the beginning of a race, is why they need VRR so much, yet beyond the beginning of that one track it's locked at 120hz....Yet XBOX framerate dips more on all tracks and it tears more in all modes, but they use VRR to say it feels better because they don't feel the framedrops or see the tears, so PS does not have VRR to combat some odd dips and tears.....This is the most disingenuous BS I've ever heard and seen......I mean, if people can't see through this BS, they must be frankly blind....Not talking about you directy btw...
You realize, they didn't even show how XBOX performs in the 120hz mode, Dark10X simply said it performs better, so why didn't he show it with lower settings and better framerate.....No receipts, just his words, they just said it's better with VRR....People need to take notice of DF's absolute wanking now....Look around the 19:07 mark, he never showed the XBOX version performing better at 120Hz mode......Perhaps he wanted to avoid the massive gulf in detail and settings.....Also, if the PS5 was running in Series X's low mode in the 120HZ mode, it would probably do 240 frames, even with it's higher settings it looks like it can go over 120Hz most of the time as it's locked pretty much 90+% of the time...
Yet, where the bias is evident and quite glaring.....In every aspect of that video when the XBOX was deficient, it was the tools not ready, it was puzzling or not normal or propping a feature XBOX has to combat bad performance and tearing (VRR), pretty much excuses.....Richard is adamant, I'll contact the devs, they are all on twitter, they will fix it on the XBOX guys don't worry. Why don't you call this faceoff as it is now and if it's patched later you go back..........
In truth, PS5 has significantly more detail over XBOX, higher resolutions especially on race startups, in their very video they said that.....Yet in the 120hz mode pushing all this extra graphical grunt, they never said the odd times the PS5 has framedrops on race startups on very select tracks is because of the higher detail + the higher resolution, or perhaps a BUG....because just after he showed the track that drops frames at the beginning of a race, they show a next race startup with no issues, with all the cars at startup on PS5, locked 120fps....They never suggested the dev could fix the odd race startup with the other track on PS5, did they tweet the dev about that....Surely devs can only fix things on XBOX.....If the PS drops frames, it's the PS's fault, if XBOX drops frames, it's tools, the dev didn't have time to optimize on XBOX, wah wah, Phil call the dirt guys.....This is not a tech channel anymore, this is a straight MS PR house....and Dark10X is no different than Alex or Leadbetter...
Is VRR something Sony can implement via firmware? Or would the have to wait for a mid-gen refresh?
Seems like some pretty important tech...
Yes it can, it's part of the 2.1 spec. It's coming to firmware very soon. Sony is probably waiting when there's more than a few TV's that support the spec, same for TV's pushing 8K 60Hz 12bit HDR 4:4:4.....
Well, when Bayonetta was running at 30fps on the PS3, Richard never said "devs still need to get used to the Cell", let alone dismiss any glaring differences as a bug. Not to mention, how ridiculous it would have been for him to say "but the fact that the PS3 has a Blu-Ray player and the Xbox 360 doesn't". In fact, he always mentioned the PS3 "limitations" throughout that entire generation.
There are some obvious double standards at play here.
If you watch some of their recent videos, they still mock Bayonetta on PS3.....As if it was the PS3's fault that the port was done by a Z team.....Then Vanquish comes and the PS3 is just as good as the 360 version, both done by platinum this time, PS3 has less tearing too....Not a word not a word not a word...
A lot of overreacting in this thread but not surprising.
Dirt 5 isn't that demanding a game. Forza Horizon 4 looks at least as good and is stable 4k60 on XSX.
Dirt 5 looks better than Horizon, has better textures, better simulations, mud, dirt, foliage, water etc...More cars on screen....Forza has very poor background textures and lots of looping assets, especially background assets and especially poor textures in the background.....Forza's LOD is so aggressive, go drive on those yellow fields that look like a tarpaulin that turns to flowers just before you drive over them. go look at all the low rez almost untextured backgrounds, on the hills in the forests, go look at the spectators, foliage quality, the way foliage is lit, the shadows they cast, go look at side track ground textures, stone wall quality, it's very low rez and unambitious rendering, it's why Forza was so performant on XBOX ONE. In truth Forza is way below the rendering of Dirt 5...Forza Horizon is a last gen game and it shows....Aesthetically you might like it's looks, but technically it's not in the same ballpark and the compromises are quite evident...A shame too, because Vega cards was running this at 4k with ultra settings, but the Series X can't even push 4k 60fps at XBONEX high rez mode settings, which was nothing close to ultra PC, lots of settings were below ultra...Instead, the Series X can't even hit 4K 60 locked with performance settings from the XBONEX mode...That's the reality...
Because devs have had no time with either platform? They are pushing out updates and games with bugs all over the place just to meet deadlines. And a handful of games got pushed back because of the pandemic
The dev literally said they barely had any time with the platform and its not the final result. So you are comparing unfinished products, which is stupid.
So a game is on shelves in a released state, people can go buy and play. People can go buy and put up comparison videos, but you are telling me it's unfair to compare a product that's on a store shelf, disc pressed because it's unfinished? So many hoops...I wonder what your stance would be if the Series X won this faceoff and PS5 had the low settings in the 120hz mode, generally lower resolutions, and still a worse framerate with more tearing, would you be so kind?
