220$ fo 1gb? naughtiness. Arrogant MS was never gone
its basically the same price as pc equivalent....
220$ fo 1gb? naughtiness. Arrogant MS was never gone
Notice how Microsoft has been all about advertising sustained speeds and Sony oddly hasn't mentioned the word once? It's no doubt because their drive performs nearer to a standard M.2, very high peaks but throttles under heavy load and heat accumulation.
Consoles are cheaper and more convenient.
The slot won't be in the back like Series X | S. PS5's NVMe Gen 4 SSD expansion bay will be concealed to not be obvious kinda like the PS4/Pro's internal HDD bays are. You might have to remove the top panel to access it.We’ve seen the back.
Yeah have fun transferring your games back and forth, so convenient.edited for you, new tech, same price as pc versions, but in a more convenient package, so yes.
Don't be ridiculous.its basically the same price as pc equivalent....
You cant make this comparison. Its plug and play. And that ease of use comes at a cost. It was either this solution or the sony approach which wont be easy for casuals to do. Unless they just go on youtube.Don't be ridiculous.
This is a 1TB proprietary drive
2.4gb/s SSD for $220.
You can get a 1TB PC nvme drive
7.0gb/s SSD for $229
This xbox proprietary drive price is shit as everyone who was sane expected.
What assumption?You cant make this comparison. Its plug and play. And that ease of use comes at a cost. It was either this solution or the sony approach which wont be easy for casuals to do. Unless they just go on youtube.
Don't be ridiculous.
This is a 1TB proprietary drive
2.4gb/s SSD for $220.
You can get a 1TB PC nvme drive
7.0gb/s SSD for $229
This xbox proprietary drive price is shit as everyone who was sane expected.
Yeah have fun transferring your games back and forth, so convenient.
What assumption?
You can get a PC equivalent for ~$100:
Same speed SSD
The actual spec is crap, so the case cost $100?
Gen3 (x4) is equivalent to a Gen4 (x2). You get equivalent speeds.thats gen 3 tho?
Jesus. Right, firstly yes you have the case cost. Secondly, you have the market its aimed at. Console players. Traditionally console players dont want hassle. They want ease of use. And have shown to be happy to spend more for this experience.What assumption?
You can get a PC equivalent for ~$100:
Same speed SSD
The actual spec is crap, so the case cost $100?
You cant make this comparison. Its plug and play. And that ease of use comes at a cost. It was either this solution or the sony approach which wont be easy for casuals to do. Unless they just go on youtube.
This is a different scenario to vita and shows ur ignorance to technology for even making that comparison.Taking advantage of casuals apology 101 . I sure hope you were not one chastising Sony for PS Vita cards... I am sure Sony had its list of excuses too .
220$ fo 1gb? naughtiness. Arrogant MS was never gone
Ok but somebody made a claim that it's the same price as the PC equivalent, not "I'm too casual to change a PC nvme drive and therefore I'm happy to pay $100 more over the PC equivalent."Jesus. Right, firstly yes you have the case cost. Secondly, you have the market its aimed at. Console players. Traditionally console players dont want hassle. They want ease of use. And have shown to be happy to spend more for this experience.
Have you installed an nvme ssd on pc? Its not difficult if you know what ur doing. But you cant replicate that experience onto console players. So microsoft went down the path to make this as easy as possible. The fact its literally plug n play like memory cards on consoles of yore comes at an extra cost. Not to mention the ssd speeds these cards need to hit whilst also allowing it to come out and go into other xboxes. I saw someone earlier saying that ps5 will require to plug the new ssd to motherbord like pc. Absolutely no chance thats happening. It will be taking a panel off and sliding it in and out. Console manufactures dont want customers fucking about with motherboards.
Gen3 (x4) is equivalent to a Gen4 (x2). You get equivalent speeds.
On PC they are selling Gen4 (x4) at more than double the speed of this proprietary drive at a similar price.
Look dont get me wrong. I agree the price is too high. But it was always going to be higher for the reasons i stated. I would expect the cost to come down as the memory will be more widely adopted and manufacturing costs go down.Ok but somebody made a claim that it's the same price as the PC equivalent, not "I'm too casual to change a PC nvme drive and therefore I'm happy to pay $100 more over the PC equivalent."
its still gen4, you have to compare the hardware like for like as gen4 is considerably more expensive, neither MS or Sony can control the price of the new tech
MS absolutely can and have because this is a proprietary drive. Gen4 is not more expensive when your components can remain the same as a gen3. it's just newer but when your flash controller and flash speeds are the same there is no difference to a gen3. The gen4 PCIe is just the interface.its still gen4, you have to compare the hardware like for like as gen4 is considerably more expensive, neither MS or Sony can control the price of the new tech
Gimped Gen 4 with a Gen 3 speeds and for the same price as 980 Pro and at least +2x less speed.
You can store games on an external HDD on Xbox. No need for physical.Jeeeebus. The Samsung one that "supposedly" meets Sony's specs is overpriced to hell too. Thank god I'm going physical. I can manage games storage more easily til these drop in price significantly.
Physical copies download to the harddrive as well.Jeeeebus. The Samsung one that "supposedly" meets Sony's specs is overpriced to hell too. Thank god I'm going physical. I can manage games storage more easily til these drop in price significantly.
This is a different scenario to vita and shows ur ignorance to technology for even making that comparison.
Jeeeebus. The Samsung one that "supposedly" meets Sony's specs is overpriced to hell too. Thank god I'm going physical. I can manage games storage more easily til these drop in price significantly.
You really think Microsoft doesn't get a cut for every licensed and xbox-branded peripheral? And hey, I'm not blaming either party. It's a free market and they can put whatever price on their product they want as far as I'm concerned.Technically greedy Seagate, but I think MS should not allow them to charge this. That last 19.99 erks me too. Just make the damn thing $199.99.
my exact thoughtSo it’ll be $300 cdn.
no thanks. I’ll swap files with my external HDD.
at $150 cdn, maybe I’ll bite.
Sure, totally different. Not another proprietary storage with a price markup to make up for a lower price of entry for a curiously space reduced cheaper HW... no way...
MeWhat sucker is gonna pay $220 for 1tb of storage lol.
You don't know what you're talking about, this drive is custom all the same as Sony's. It was developed by Microsoft and is being manufactured by Seagate.
Microsoft's design required that it be able to handle a sustained 2.4GB/s, required that it match the internal drive exactly for identical operation, it doesn't throttle. Notice how Microsoft has been all about advertising sustained speeds and Sony oddly hasn't mentioned the word once? It's no doubt because their drive performs nearer to a standard M.2, very high peaks but throttles under heavy load and heat accumulation. That's no doubt while you'll be able to throw a PC drive right in the system, although it will likely have to reasonably exceed their drive to ensure the throttling doesn't sink below theirs.
That's not going to be cheap.
Damn has people become so lazy as to not take two bolts out to remove something, that you more then likely won't have to take out for a long time, to get a fair price vs paying 60 bucks more for "plug and play" convenience? SmhYou cant make this comparison. Its plug and play. And that ease of use comes at a cost. It was either this solution or the sony approach which wont be easy for casuals to do. Unless they just go on youtube.